Now We're cookin.. Clarkdale Over 4Ghz

[nyker96]

LOL hard to predict- nevertheless best buys in CPU right now IMO are $90 castillos or $130 clarkdales. The former you *can*, 74% chance, make into a powerful Quad and OC the later can OC sky high w/ performance surpassing anything else in majority of today apps. Hehe I like that C&C.

why 74% exactly? statistical analysis?

 

[alyarb]

45nm may not overclock as well, but the better memory controller and increased L3 cache give the Core i5 750 better IPC.

I think the bargain gaming chip we are all looking for is L5609 (32nm quad core/No HT/12mb cache).

it's still socket 1366, and that platform starts at $150 + 6 gigabyte kits starting at $140. suddenly you've spent more than the cost of a clarkdale+asrock/biostar/gigabyte H55 motherboard before even looking at how much 32nm XEONs are going to cost. X58 systems are still a lot more expensive for the little performance they offer over P55 with a high freq i7. If i'm paying extra money for a 32nm XEON, it had better do 4.5 GHz at 1.3v and it had better have HT. besides, these chips come out in just over two months. and then you have to see if the initial steppings are even good overclockers. so that is definitely Q2.

 

[Kenmitch]

Throw some heat on that baby.

Use Intel Burn Test 1st then OCCT before you worry about prime stability.

 

[Hey Zeus]

Just got home

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=934029

 

[Spicedaddy]

What's the VID on these 32nm chips?

 

[Hey Zeus]

We're movin on up.. Movin on up.. To the East Sideeeee

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=934077

 

[alyarb]

finally. now you're getting started.

 

[Hey Zeus]

Let me just say at 4.6Ghz this shit is quick. If i had an SSD this computer would be on FIREEEEEEEEE

 

[cbn]

Now if only we could compare 24/7 max OC'd Core i3s to 24/7 max OC Athlon II x4?

Which one does better in gaming benchmarks? energy consumption? Noise?

Is the memory system and L3 cache capable of scaling with the high frequencies? How is hyperthreading performance affected at higher clocks?

 

[Nemesis 1]

Man Zeus get under water . Than watch your eyeballs pop out.

 

[n7]

We're movin on up.. Movin on up.. To the East Sideeeee

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=934077

Nice, keep going.

You should be able to use 24x multi if BCLK gets in the way.

 

[soccerballtux]

Now if only we could compare 24/7 max OC'd Core i3s to 24/7 max OC Athlon II x4?

Which one does better in gaming benchmarks? energy consumption? Noise?

Is the memory system and L3 cache capable of scaling with the high frequencies? How is hyperthreading performance affected at higher clocks?

HT performance will scale linearly. Noise award will go to energy consumption chip. At idle frequencies the AMD will win-- CnQ can scale voltage down a lot more than Speedstep does.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Now if only we could compare 24/7 max OC'd Core i3s to 24/7 max OC Athlon II x4?

Which one does better in gaming benchmarks? energy consumption? Noise?

Is the memory system and L3 cache capable of scaling with the high frequencies? How is hyperthreading performance affected at higher clocks?

I really don't think an Athlon II x4 to match it up against. Aim your sights a bit higher than that geez.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I think we can already estimate which CPU would use less power - the Clarksdale, easily. Quads start to chew up power like mad as you overclock and overvolt them.

Also, we know that Clarksdale's L3 will scale properly with core speed since it is, to the best of my knowledge, synchronous (unlike Phenom II's L3). The real question is: at what clockspeed does Clarksdale start to suffer from poor scaling due to the reported system memory speed limit of DDR3-1600?

I would like to hear more from Hey Zeus on how his memory speeds are holding up at a BCLK of 200, and whether or not he could go for a faster QPI multi.

 

[Hey Zeus]

I think we can already estimate which CPU would use less power - the Clarksdale, easily. Quads start to chew up power like mad as you overclock and overvolt them.

Also, we know that Clarksdale's L3 will scale properly with core speed since it is, to the best of my knowledge, synchronous (unlike Phenom II's L3). The real question is: at what clockspeed does Clarksdale start to suffer from poor scaling due to the reported system memory speed limit of DDR3-1600?

I would like to hear more from Hey Zeus on how his memory speeds are holding up at a BCLK of 200, and whether or not he could go for a faster QPI multi.

Memory is fine aslong as i don't push it over 1600 then windows doesn't like to boot.

At these speeds the QPI multi is limited to 1 selection.. The lowest one.

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=934167

 

[Ben90]

Originally posted by: Ben90
If no one is BSing stuff on XS, im fairly confident 5ghz will be the new "standard" for high end water cooling systems and lucky air-coolers will get around 4.7ghz.

Obviously these are just my speculations, with no concrete facts to back it up aside from the few people who may or may not have an i9 chip in their hands under l2n.

no

Ben your retarded

Impossible

You don't know what your talking about

You are stupid

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=335039&highlight=motherboard+5ghz

 

[cbn]

I really don't think an Athlon II x4 to match it up against. Aim your sights a bit higher than that geez.

Since Intel hyperthreading appears to be well sorted now we have to hope AMD is able to develop a really good turbo mode for their future CPUs.

If anything reviews of Thuban should be interesting(re:C-state performance boost is supposed to be some type of new Turbo mode)

 

[DrMrLordX]

Memory is fine aslong as i don't push it over 1600 then windows doesn't like to boot.

At these speeds the QPI multi is limited to 1 selection.. The lowest one.

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=934167

So you've encountered the same problems as reported in the "Clarkbar" XS review and in Anandtech's Clarksdale review. Oh well. No matter! 4.7 ghz is pretty damn good. You're awfully close to the big 5 ghz there, and you are doing much better than some of the review sites did with their i3s (one of them topped out at 3.5 ghz).

Have you performed any scaling comparisons at various different clockspeeds using something like SuperPi 32M? Or maybe something a bit less synthetic?

And have you tried booting with just one DIMM yet?

 

[Hey Zeus]

So you've encountered the same problems as reported in the "Clarkbar" XS review and in Anandtech's Clarksdale review. Oh well. No matter! 4.7 ghz is pretty damn good. You're awfully close to the big 5 ghz there, and you are doing much better than some of the review sites did with their i3s (one of them topped out at 3.5 ghz).

Have you performed any scaling comparisons at various different clockspeeds using something like SuperPi 32M? Or maybe something a bit less synthetic?

And have you tried booting with just one DIMM yet?

I like to credit my overclocking success to spending the money and buying IMO the best overclocking board on the market today for the P55. This board is just simply amazing. The bios is the most indepth i have ever used.

I'm booting with 1 DIMM now. Over 4.4Ghz i was having issue with both.

Super Pi over 4.6Ghz takes a hit for the simple fact that i have to drop the memory multi down one notch so that i don't run over 1600. The good part is that this will allow me to do 5Ghz as soon as i put her on water which should happen Saturday afternoon.

Just for an update. I can boot 4.8Ghz easily but voltage is getting higher then i want to take it on air. I probably have the best air cooling but i don't want to kill the chip 2 days into owning it so i can wait till saturday when she'll be properly cooled on water and we'll see what 1.5V+ gets us. Hopefully 5.1-5.2Ghz but i'll be MORE then happy with 5Ghz

 

[Acanthus]

I like to credit my overclocking success to spending the money and buying IMO the best overclocking board on the market today for the P55. This board is just simply amazing. The bios is the most indepth i have ever used.

I'm booting with 1 DIMM now. Over 4.4Ghz i was having issue with both.

Super Pi over 4.6Ghz takes a hit for the simple fact that i have to drop the memory multi down one notch so that i don't run over 1600. The good part is that this will allow me to do 5Ghz as soon as i put her on water which should happen Saturday afternoon.

Just for an update. I can boot 4.8Ghz easily but voltage is getting higher then i want to take it on air. I probably have the best air cooling but i don't want to kill the chip 2 days into owning it so i can wait till saturday when she'll be properly cooled on water and we'll see what 1.5V+ gets us. Hopefully 5.1-5.2Ghz but i'll be MORE then happy with 5Ghz

1.5v is a lot for 32nm.

hell it was a lot for 45nm.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Since Intel hyperthreading appears to be well sorted now we have to hope AMD is able to develop a really good turbo mode for their future CPUs.

If anything reviews of Thuban should be interesting(re:C-state performance boost is supposed to be some type of new Turbo mode)

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

You O/C that AMD to its highest stable O/C than O/C i5 to its highest stable O/C and what we have is a down right ass kicking. My i5 570 is on its way. But I still waiting to get the msi fusion motherboard. Water cooling is not a problem I have everthing I need right here for that. I pretty much already know the results since I have Had I5 for some time but I am not allowed to publicly display anything or Bob won't get anymore of this stuff. But you go ahead believe the fairy NDA breakers

When you put a 2 core up against a 4 core their is NO apple to Apple comparsion its that simple. Its O/C against O/C of the stable nature .

 

[Phynaz]

Sweet overclock.

Time put water on it

 

[marsspirit123]

It is good to spend $185 for that board ,however I5 750 plus board for $100 is better thing with litle OC especially in games. Or AMD 955 plus board for $99 + extra money for better video card also better with some OC.I feels better thou to be able to tell:hey my CPU is runing at 5ghz

I like to credit my overclocking success to spending the money and buying IMO the best overclocking board on the market today for the P55. This board is just simply amazing. The bios is the most indepth i have ever used.

I'm booting with 1 DIMM now. Over 4.4Ghz i was having issue with both.

Super Pi over 4.6Ghz takes a hit for the simple fact that i have to drop the memory multi down one notch so that i don't run over 1600. The good part is that this will allow me to do 5Ghz as soon as i put her on water which should happen Saturday afternoon.

Just for an update. I can boot 4.8Ghz easily but voltage is getting higher then i want to take it on air. I probably have the best air cooling but i don't want to kill the chip 2 days into owning it so i can wait till saturday when she'll be properly cooled on water and we'll see what 1.5V+ gets us. Hopefully 5.1-5.2Ghz but i'll be MORE then happy with 5Ghz

 

[waffleironhead]

usually when overclocking, "cooking" is not a good thing.

 

[Hey Zeus]

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=936054