Now We're cookin.. Clarkdale Over 4Ghz

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Zebo said:
Nice but why the 540? Every value clocker knows you buy lowest end chip in iteration. (530)
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In this case zebo its a little differant. Intel was very clever here. As has been noted the memory controller over 1600 gets funky.

Which I already new . Thats why I am spending the $3oo dollars on the i5 570 .

I can get to 5 ghz with that cpu without having to work around that problem . Up until yesterday the M/B I was going to use Zeus is using and I like it very much. But the MSI fusion although really expensive is appealing to me . If Everthing I purchase now holds up as well as this browser does I don't mind spending the money. This isn't really going to be my gamer but . It sure as hell would work like one . I like to play with this stuff as it would seem does Zeus. My water cooling stuff is the very best you cann't buy unless you purchase it from my daughter and you cann't do that unless you buy one of here PCs and live in a 5 state region. The best part by holding off I can look at these new SSD that rival or beat Intels . The Bad part is sata 3 isn't on these m/bs. that really angries myself but what can one do but wait for the next great M/B . I am a bit confused by the high voltages peeps are using . we didn't have to do that. Bob and I had long discussion on that today . At the end were still both confused on that subject . I will comment on it after we get the boughten system up and running . Bobs buying same stuff I am other than M/B he going with what Zeus used . But both systems will use water . From there will tell daughter what to use . Were all really excited about these cpus. Its going to cut our cost by a lot.
 
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24/7 settings @ 4.6Ghz

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DrMrLordX

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4.6 ghz at 1.28v is pretty damn good. I wonder if that would be possible on a cheaper motherboard . . .
 
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i3 vs i5 at same core frequency.

Test a multi-threaded game like Dragon Age.

See how much performance differs.
 
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i think the lowest priced i3 is the only thing interesting they offer, something like $115 or so overclock it to 4,5Ghz then it's a real killer for the money. but other models are priced too high for a dual core.
 
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nyker96 said:
i think the lowest priced i3 is the only thing interesting they offer, something like $115 or so overclock it to 4,5Ghz then it's a real killer for the money. but other models are priced too high for a dual core.
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Allegedly the i3 530 is $99 at Microcenter:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2039708

For those who can take advantage of it, that's a seemingly-reasonable price.

Hey Zeus said:
Not sure dr. This board is so engineered for overclocking it's sad.
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Hmm . . . time will tell I suppose.
 
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Ya I wasn't referring to Zeus V. Their are others O/C these things with high high V. I guess they use to the 4core stuff. Many are talking of dropping down to the i5 . you take the i5 set it up to run 4.5ghz at stock when turbo kicks in your @ 4.8 thats something I like alot. What were not sure of is can we pull this off at stable . With water. IF so its great for my daughter.
 
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soccerballtux said:
Grr I thought we already covered this in the other thread :)
There is little point in dual if you want to be set for the future. People saying you don't need more than a dual (even with Hyperthreading) is like all the people that said "there are no multithreaded games, so just get the fastest single core available". Then people bought FX-55's and Athlon64 4000+'s and overclocked them like crazy...and then Oblivion came out and the people who put that money towards a 4800+ came out ahead.

Same will happen with Dual/Quad as developers get better at multithreading.
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This is not the right comparison. People buying i3 or LGA1156 pentiums are buying ~$100ish processors. 4000+ and FX55s were nowhere near $100. You want to compare people who bought a 3000+ or 3200+ and overclocked like crazy.

When you buy <$100-150 processors you don't risk a whole lot in terms of the future. You upgrade in a couple years to the next $100-150 processor.

You don't buy for the future at all in that price range. You get performance now from the overclocking, then you buy again in 2 years. I mean what's a i5 750 gonna be like in 2 years? Whatever $100-125 processor that is out then is going to roast it and people are gonna want to upgrade even if they have an i7 750.

Buying computer hardware "for the future" is something hardware manufacturers bank on. It's like buying insurance. The insurance companies are sure to come out on top. Or going to Vegas, the house always wins on average.

Buy for the here and now and buy on the value end of the spectrum and you're not very invested, so there's very little issue if you end up making a mistake. It's not like a 4+GHz Clarkdale is going to be slow in any real world applications now. If you were using one of the applications it were slow in extensively (something that benefited significantly from quad core right now,) then you wouldn't even be looking at buying a clarkdale anyway.

I'm guessing the people upgrading to an i3 (more than just to play with it some and then sell it on FS/FT) are going to have been on an e7200 max. And this proc is the next e7200. same price point, similar OC capability (relative to stock speed), just higher numbers that come from 2 years newer tech.
 
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Do games that support 4 threads work fine with a HT dual core? Or do you have to turn HT off? Most games don't like quads with HT on. They run worse or not at all. And a gaming rig must have 4 thread capability unless you can tolerate lower fps. There are a bunch of games now that support more than 2 threads.

You do have a good OC there but an i7 D0 can do 4.2 easily which isn't much slower than 4.6. Unless your whole point is to do it on the cheap. In that case you did succeed with a fast rig at a good price.
 
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SHAQ said:
You do have a good OC there but an i7 D0 can do 4.2 easily which isn't much slower than 4.6. Unless your whole point is to do it on the cheap. In that case you did succeed with a fast rig at a good price.
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This thread has no point except to explore the overclocking capabilities of the Clarkdale's
 
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try dropping down the CPU multiplier to an even one, early OC reports say that the clarkies like even multipliers, you may gain some headroom.
 
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Spikesoldier said:
try dropping down the CPU multiplier to an even one, early OC reports say that the clarkies like even multipliers, you may gain some headroom.
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I'm having Zero stability issues. The issue is going over 1.45v on air. Just not worth it to me. I ordered a nice water setup today so we'll be over 5Ghz soon
 
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