Now that NDA is over, how do you really feel about bulldozer ?

[Patrick Wolf]

Walmart would be a better place if not for all the trash that gravitate there.

 

[woolfe9999]

I've usually bought AMD in the past, but there's just no way to polish this turd. It's an utter and complete disaster.

 

[Redshirt 24]

If I had to pick one word, it'd simply be disappointed. Not all the way over at

but simply

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

I buy intel exclusive . Because I believe they are the Tech leader so I support them .

Walmart is another issue. I small town . Since early 60s 5 mall areas have been built. The downtown went into decay and all but Walmart are losing money . Mom and pop stores closed threw out the USA . Malls are bad for America but easy on foolish 1 shop customers. Who destroy their own communities buying into big business . Small business works Big corpurations destroy the competion. But when it comes to many products big works . but there is still a price to pay. I won't shop walmart either

LOL Wat. If you don't know the word 'throughout' then I seriously doubt you're any older than 12.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

This was me reading the Anand review.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0

 

[Manoa]

what AMD really needed to do with Bulldozer is make the first core a thuban core and then add a few BD modules with as much space as was left

 

[Soulkeeper]

I can't help but think that the L3 is completely worthless on these things
regardless of workload or desktop/server situations ...

These are some rough calculations I did from the image in the review and the assumption there are 2B transistors total:

modules: 27.67% 553.38M
L2: 16.00% 320.19M
L3: 12.66% 253.28M
Other: 43.67% 873.40M

 

[eternalone]

Worse than I was expecting - very sad for consumers since this means Intel will continue to own the CPU market (unless AMD sells BD to OEMs for pennies on the dollar).[/QUOTE]

Im looking for an $89 dollar OctoCore AMD can you deliver??? If they can price these suckers down down down, they could find a nitche. Im talking athlon pricing here.

 

[SickBeast]

I just don't think regular people are going to need or want 8 cores in their computer for the foreseeable future.

4 cores seem like more than enough to me for a desktop computer.

 

[Axon]

This was me reading the Anand review.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0

This was me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SArxcnpXStE

 

[Maximilian]

Im looking for an $89 dollar OctoCore AMD can you deliver??? If they can price these suckers down down down, they could find a nitche. Im talking athlon pricing here.

Doubt they can deliver that, isnt the die size on these things huge? Thatll keep costs pretty high i imagine.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Why?

I agree. Why would someone totally refuse to buy from a particular manufacturer regardless of the product vs their competitor.

I can see leaning toward AMD because you want to give them support, but to categorically refuse to buy from Intel just makes no sense.

 

[Zebo]

This might break AMD once and for all. Huge chip thats slower than phenom and way slower than intels chip half it's size (at least half it's cost)? GL AMD you'll need it.

Oh and with no one left to sue and nothing left to sell cash flow will be a huge issue if you're not selling lots of CPUs.

 

[darckhart]

honestly, i'm not surprised. that's the cost of forward thinking. i'm certain later iterations (provided software catches up) will shine. for this current batch, if they can adjust prices accordingly, they might be able to stay in the game.

 

[Lonbjerg]

Not surprised.
No NexGen for AMD to buy (alongside a new CPU architechture)...so they will just fill the role they have filled most of the time...under Intel's performance.

 

[aigomorla]

so are people still saying i make up stuff? :\

 

[Lonbjerg]

so are people still saying i make up stuff? :\

Well JFAMD has run for cover.
Most AMD fans have realized the truth.

But I bet some AMD fans will still think you are wrong...and that it's all a conspiracy...

 

[aigomorla]

.and that it's all a conspiracy...

dayam lemme get my tin foil aluminum hat out again...

u know AMD has ties with aliens right? D:

 

[perdomot]

Well, while I feel bad for AMD, I do feel good about my own purchase of a core i5-760 that I bought just before SB came out. Saw several articles that showed it OCing to 4Ghz easily and that's what I have it now and it works great. I did read the article at Xbitlabs comparing it to an X6 OC'd to 4Ghz as well and opted for the Intel. What I don't get is that AMD had to know how this would be tested and compared and they did nothing about it.

 

[Ajay]

What I don't get is that AMD had to know how this would be tested and compared and they did nothing about it.

AMD had already canned the first Bulldozer in the design phase, I don't think they could backtrack a second time when things weren't turning up roses with the current BD design. They were probably just hoping for better clocks and lower power use on GloFo's 32nm process - it just didn't work out for AMD in either case. IF the 8150 debuted with a 4.2 GHz stock clock and 4.8GHz turbo, reviews would have been more favorable. Tough luck for AMD.