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Now $145: Retail 3TB Hitachi shipped Amazon

Interested, but is "CoolSpin" their code word for "slow" like Western Digital's "Geen Power?"

doug_ny said:
Hitachi is exiting the hard drive business, and the Deskstar line has had a troubled life.
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Only in IBM's hands and only two generations really (75GXP and 60GXP). I had Travelstar drives from that era failing constantly too.
 
I believe "coolspin" can continuously vary between 5400 and 7200rpm, so .... ideal for archives, but probably inconsistent performance versus a straight 7200 drive.
 
doug_ny said:
Hitachi is exiting the hard drive business, and the Deskstar line has had a troubled life.
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Not this ignorant BS again. The only trouble they had was with the 60GXP and 75GXP.
I've used a lot (30+) of Hitachi HDDs since then with nary an issue, including about 10 1st gen 1TBs (industry first 1TBs even) that have been running 24/7/365 for the last few years.

A point of interest is that the Hitachi 3TBs seem to be 512-byte sector drives and thus have none of the brouhaha associated with Advanced Sector drives.
 
WhoBeDaPlaya said:
Not this ignorant BS again. The only trouble they had was with the 60GXP and 75GXP.
I've used a lot (30+) of Hitachi HDDs since then with nary an issue, including about 10 1st gen 1TBs (industry first 1TBs even) that have been running 24/7/365 for the last few years.

A point of interest is that the Hitachi 3TBs seem to be 512-byte sector drives and thus have none of the brouhaha associated with Advanced Sector drives.
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The real problem with Hitachi from what I'm seeing is tons of drives being DOA or near DOA. As far as reliability of the drive itself when not DOA, they seem to be around average in comparison to the other manufacturers, which is to say good.

Only problems I have had with HDDs that I've bought have all been due to being DOA. In actual use, none have failed me.
 
LOL_Wut_Axel said:
Only problems I have had with HDDs that I've bought have all been due to being DOA. In actual use, none have failed me.
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I have had drives suddenly die, but usually weed most of them out right from the get go by torture testing them before actual usage (2-3 full passes of sector scans).
 
bad reviews.
This drive has been RMA-ed 8 times. I have used this drive inside the PC, in an enclosure and on a dock. They send you a refurbished drive when its time for a replacement. Last time around I threatened them with a lawsuit and they sent me a new drive. Guess what? It failed. I would not buy this drive even if it was $20. This is classic example of you get what you pay for. Spend a little more money and go with a WD or Seagate.
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ActiveX said:
bad reviews.
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It's hard for me to appreciate any review that suggest a Seabait instead 🙂. Like WhoBeDaPlaya, I ususlly try to torture test out the bad apples. Again, for the price, I'm gonna try. Hope it's not the same result as all those Seabait 1.5tb's I killed!
 
new egg expert reviewers are the kind of people who keep jamming the ide cable into the sata drive until it fits...
 
WhoBeDaPlaya said:
Not this ignorant BS again. The only trouble they had was with the 60GXP and 75GXP.
I've used a lot (30+) of Hitachi HDDs since then with nary an issue, including about 10 1st gen 1TBs (industry first 1TBs even) that have been running 24/7/365 for the last few years.

A point of interest is that the Hitachi 3TBs seem to be 512-byte sector drives and thus have none of the brouhaha associated with Advanced Sector drives.
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The reason for the bad 60/75GXP drives were because their manufacturing sucked. This means manufacturing didn't do their job, quality didn't do their job and test didn't do their job. 10 years ago, I've worked closely with Intel and Hitachi as they supplied the parts we needed for PCs. I was deploying PCs into out manufacturing for paperless operation and including the same basic PCs, with OSWarp 😀, for our high end product.

Needless to say those drives sucked horribly and even then they wouldn't admit it. In new hands I haven't heard of the same issues. The Seagate 1.5/2.0 TB drives were faulty to begin with, with bad firmware. I had 100% of my 1.5/2.0 TB drives failed and all being RMAed and reflashed. But after the changes the new drives are fine.

When you get a bad HDD it's usually noticeable at he beginning when it starts to fail. Torture testing them is a good thing to do if you wanna be safe; not guarantee but safe. Honestly though, if the manufacture DID their job we wouldn't be seeing defects like that of the 60/75 GXP and the Seagates.
 
The0ne said:
When you get a bad HDD it's usually noticeable at he beginning when it starts to fail. Torture testing them is a good thing to do if you wanna be safe; not guarantee but safe. Honestly though, if the manufacture DID their job we wouldn't be seeing defects like that of the 60/75 GXP and the Seagates.
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+1 Doing a torture test is better than nothing and helps to weed out cases of infant mortality.
Another case of interest is the defective firmware for Samsung Spinpoint F4s.
 
In short all HDD manufacturers suck ass because they have all had bad batches, failures, messed up firmware or some other terrible problem.

So simply choose your drive by price and when one of the manufacturers eventually burns you move on to another. Once youve gotten a bad drive from every manufacturer then you simply throw away all your computers and never use one again.

Or simply be logical and realize that shit happens, back up your important information and shrug it off when you get a bad drive. Ive owned/installed countless drives from every manufacturer and I can say I have had at least one fail from each of them eventually. No one brand is better in my eyes, they each have their ups and downs.

This drive will make good for huge movie collections, better than dealing with ~4K DVDs.
 
i would place hitachi higher than seagate. as others mentioned, quality is riddled with DOA issues. but when you do find one thats good, it will last a long time.

i have no problem buying a hitachi hark disk. i would be hesitant to trust ANY brand's highest density model though.
 
The0ne said:
The reason for the bad 60/75GXP drives were because their manufacturing sucked. This means manufacturing didn't do their job, quality didn't do their job and test didn't do their job. 10 years ago, I've worked closely with Intel and Hitachi as they supplied the parts we needed for PCs. I was deploying PCs into out manufacturing for paperless operation and including the same basic PCs, with OSWarp 😀, for our high end product.

Needless to say those drives sucked horribly and even then they wouldn't admit it. In new hands I haven't heard of the same issues. The Seagate 1.5/2.0 TB drives were faulty to begin with, with bad firmware. I had 100% of my 1.5/2.0 TB drives failed and all being RMAed and reflashed. But after the changes the new drives are fine.

When you get a bad HDD it's usually noticeable at he beginning when it starts to fail. Torture testing them is a good thing to do if you wanna be safe; not guarantee but safe. Honestly though, if the manufacture DID their job we wouldn't be seeing defects like that of the 60/75 GXP and the Seagates.
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The 75GXP and 60GXP used IBM's much-touted "Pixie Dust" technology, as did the high-density Travelstar drives that started failing around then. It was definitely related to that. It seems that they first thought it was related to their 5-platter design in the 75GXP because they increased the platter density and scaled back the platter count for the 60GXP (was still much faster than the 75GXP) but the failures just continued. I noted that the early 60GXPs were 61.5GB and the later ones were all 60.0, probably so that they could dedicate as many spare sectors for the S.M.A.R.T. logic to utilize as possible. When they sold off their consumer HDD unit to Hitachi, they had already fixed their Pixie Dust issue.

It was simply a technology change that wasn't as smooth as they had hoped, exactly like RoHS lead-free solder causing BGA failures in nVidia notebook GPUs, XBOX 360 consoles, Playstation 3 consoles, Realta HQV scaler chips, etc (poor ASIC design did not account for real-world manufacturing variances and usage scenarios).
 
jjmIII said:
It's hard for me to appreciate any review that suggest a Seabait instead 🙂. Like WhoBeDaPlaya, I ususlly try to torture test out the bad apples. Again, for the price, I'm gonna try. Hope it's not the same result as all those Seabait 1.5tb's I killed!
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Please post your results with this drive once you torture test it.
 
Fwiw these are the 32MB 5K3000, not the 64MB 7k's
Had a couple of the latter for about 4 months now no prob
If you have mission critical data you prob need the 2,000,000 mtbf Ultrastar - thinking about getting 2 of these before they disappear $320 ea
 
i cant wait till ssd's are a cheap per gb as hdd's. even if there is a slight decrease in speed i wouldnt care. i hate even the idea of a metal disk spinning at 5000rpms inside my battery powered netbook.
 
Kinda scary reviews at Amazon. Still, 3TB for $107 shipped is a damn good price. Tempting, oh so tempting.

(After I dropped nearly a grand on 2TB HDs at Microcenter, for $110 + tax each.)
 
I had a 45gb drive that was an ibm DEATHSTAR drive. It ran great and was fast then it clicked and boom goes the dynamite. Unfortunately I had talked all my friends into getting them it was a lower model number than the ones you have mentioned I think and they all died...its cheap so whatever get some 3tb on and just buy 2 then no worries =D
 
DoeBoy said:
I had a 45gb drive that was an ibm DEATHSTAR drive. It ran great and was fast then it clicked and boom goes the dynamite. Unfortunately I had talked all my friends into getting them it was a lower model number than the ones you have mentioned I think and they all died...its cheap so whatever get some 3tb on and just buy 2 then no worries =D
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Sounds like a 75GXP to me. The series was named after the 75GB 5-platter version but it had 15GB per platter and was available in 1-to-5 platter configurations of 15, 30, 45, 60, and 75GB capacities. The 60GXP was faster because it had 20GB per platter but was only available in traditional 1-to-3-platter configurations of 20, 40, and 60GB.
 
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