Nothing is going to help Cuomo, he is screwed.

Greenman

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So strange. Causing the deaths of old people by direct action and trying to hide it is no big deal, but hitting on staffers is going to get him canned.
 

woolfe9998

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So strange. Causing the deaths of old people by direct action and trying to hide it is no big deal, but hitting on staffers is going to get him canned.

He's being investigated by the NY AG over the nursing home stuff. I have no idea where you get this notion that it is "no big deal."
 
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zinfamous

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So strange. Causing the deaths of old people by direct action and trying to hide it is no big deal, but hitting on staffers is going to get him canned.

Trump caused the direct death of more than 500k Americans, pretended he didn't, in teh same exact way you want to believe Cuomo did (you honestly have to to accept that if you accept what you claim to accept about Cuomo--there is literally no way around that), and yet nothing happened to him.

So, why does this surprise you?

Also, Trump raped at least a dozen women (also underage girls!) and has another 25 plus with active accusations and cases against him, and it hasn't sunk him.

Why is that?

Oh, maybe Democratic politicians and their supporters actually have moral convictions that supersede their politics?

So, so, so strange.

lol, Dems quickly ousted a US senator with weak, proven fraudulent claims against him from a republican "comedian" that was paid to lie about a past event. And this surprises you.

Are you guys really just baffled when Democrats never seem to act in the ways that you fundamentally believe them to be?
 

kage69

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So strange. Causing the deaths of old people by direct action and trying to hide it is no big deal, but hitting on staffers is going to get him canned.

Not as strange as being responsible for an out of control pandemic killing 550k and people wanting to re-elect you.

Hey another 19 accusers give or take and Cuomo's ready for the White House!

If I were a Dem I'd say he should probably resign, but as an Indie I am loving Team Treason clutch those pearls and crank that hypocrisy to 11. Again.
 

Greenman

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Not as strange as being responsible for an out of control pandemic killing 550k and people wanting to re-elect you.

Hey another 19 accusers give or take and Cuomo's ready for the White House!

If I were a Dem I'd say he should probably resign, but as an Indie I am loving Team Treason clutch those pearls and crank that hypocrisy to 11. Again.
Get back to me when you understand the difference between direct action and inaction.
 

Fenixgoon

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yeah, hammer is coming down on cuomo. it's gonna be ugly. but the key difference is dems are willing to hold their own accountable. republicans are not, as evidenced by trump again and again.

Get back to me when you understand the difference between direct action and inaction.


providing disinformation is action. in fact, it is very, very negative action.
 

Greenman

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He's being investigated by the NY AG over the nursing home stuff. I have no idea where you get this notion that it is "no big deal."
Poor wording on my part. The nursing home mess isn't receiving the same attention in local news as the sexual harassment stuff. I find that odd.
 
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Trump caused the direct death of more than 500k Americans, pretended he didn't, in teh same exact way you want to believe Cuomo did (you honestly have to to accept that if you accept what you claim to accept about Cuomo--there is literally no way around that), and yet nothing happened to him.

So, why does this surprise you?

Also, Trump raped at least a dozen women (also underage girls!) and has another 25 plus with active accusations and cases against him, and it hasn't sunk him.

Why is that?

Oh, maybe Democratic politicians and their supporters actually have moral convictions that supersede their politics?

So, so, so strange.

lol, Dems quickly ousted a US senator with weak, proven fraudulent claims against him from a republican "comedian" that was paid to lie about a past event. And this surprises you.

Are you guys really just baffled when Democrats never seem to act in the ways that you fundamentally believe them to be?
Facepalm.

You guys already ruined the word literally, now you're doing the same thing with direct.

Freakin millennials.
 

zinfamous

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Facepalm.

You guys already ruined the word literally, now you're doing the same thing with direct.

Freakin millennials.

I'm Gen X, you millennial bitch. ...and you're younger than me. That means you're the millennial in this thread. :D

What you guys deliberately choose to not know about the world around you could populate a planet



That is direct action. Nothing more can be explained to you when you refuse to engage in common, honest standards of discussion.
 

fskimospy

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Poor wording on my part. The nursing home mess isn't receiving the same attention in local news as the sexual harassment stuff. I find that odd.
This is how the news always works, sex and sensationalism win out over governance issues.

For whatever reason America has decided to give its political leaders a pass for COVID. It barely affected Trump’s approval rating despite mass incompetence and malicious misgovernance. Cuomo’s actually went up because he started doing a better job after a catastrophically incompetent start, and DeSantis is more popular than ever despite mass corruption and incompetence at least as bad as Cuomo and likely worse.
 

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This is how the news always works, sex and sensationalism win out over governance issues.

For whatever reason America has decided to give its political leaders a pass for COVID. It barely affected Trump’s approval rating despite mass incompetence and malicious misgovernance. Cuomo’s actually went up because he started doing a better job after a catastrophically incompetent start, and DeSantis is more popular than ever despite mass corruption and incompetence at least as bad as Cuomo and likely worse.
Perhaps it's because harassment is easier to understand. It's simple, there is a claim of wrongdoing and a denial that it happened. When you start into a complex issue like pandemic response, it gets messy. What were the motivations behind the actions taken, what information was available at the time those actions were taken, what process went into the decision.
It's very easy to see a better answer looking back, not so simple when you're in the moment. While it looks like Cuomo screwed the pooch, he might have actually been doing what he thought was the right thing at that time.
I don't care for the guy, but I need to see the entire sequence of events laid out before making my (important to no one) decision on his guilt.

I'm having a similar problem with HR1. Read the entire document, liked a lot of it, have real problems with some of it, didn't understand some of it. Went looking for information beyond the document itself and found the normal pile of extremist garbage. As with every major change in how government works and what it does, the devil is in the details.
 

woolfe9998

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This is how the news always works, sex and sensationalism win out over governance issues.

For whatever reason America has decided to give its political leaders a pass for COVID. It barely affected Trump’s approval rating despite mass incompetence and malicious misgovernance. Cuomo’s actually went up because he started doing a better job after a catastrophically incompetent start, and DeSantis is more popular than ever despite mass corruption and incompetence at least as bad as Cuomo and likely worse.

Yeah, that's true to some extent. But the nursing home issue happened first, and right now it's an investigation going on in the background. While the harassments complaints seem to be coming in once every few days at the moment. So I think that's also factoring in.
 

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Perhaps it's because harassment is easier to understand. It's simple, there is a claim of wrongdoing and a denial that it happened. When you start into a complex issue like pandemic response, it gets messy. What were the motivations behind the actions taken, what information was available at the time those actions were taken, what process went into the decision.
It's very easy to see a better answer looking back, not so simple when you're in the moment. While it looks like Cuomo screwed the pooch, he might have actually been doing what he thought was the right thing at that time.
I don't care for the guy, but I need to see the entire sequence of events laid out before making my (important to no one) decision on his guilt.

I'm having a similar problem with HR1. Read the entire document, liked a lot of it, have real problems with some of it, didn't understand some of it. Went looking for information beyond the document itself and found the normal pile of extremist garbage. As with every major change in how government works and what it does, the devil is in the details.
I mean I've thought Andrew Cuomo is a corrupt piece of garbage for many years now - while I guess I didn't know he was a pervy in addition to being a corrupt piece of garbage in the end that doesn't move the needle too much for me because I already hated him.

I imagine Cuomo figured COVID wouldn't be that bad because no one has had to deal with something like this before and since New York was the first place really hit badly it makes sense he would make mistakes and I don't blame him for that. I similarly don't blame Trump too much for his early mistakes - I blame him for the corruption and active misinformation campaign that followed once he knew it would be bad. Cuomo and DeSantis should both fry though as they both appear to have cooked the books on COVID. DeSantis may even merit prison depending on if the preferential vaccine distribution to his political supporters turns out to be true.
 
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Perhaps it's because harassment is easier to understand. It's simple, there is a claim of wrongdoing and a denial that it happened. When you start into a complex issue like pandemic response, it gets messy. What were the motivations behind the actions taken, what information was available at the time those actions were taken, what process went into the decision.
It's very easy to see a better answer looking back, not so simple when you're in the moment. While it looks like Cuomo screwed the pooch, he might have actually been doing what he thought was the right thing at that time.
I don't care for the guy, but I need to see the entire sequence of events laid out before making my (important to no one) decision on his guilt.

I'm having a similar problem with HR1. Read the entire document, liked a lot of it, have real problems with some of it, didn't understand some of it. Went looking for information beyond the document itself and found the normal pile of extremist garbage. As with every major change in how government works and what it does, the devil is in the details.

Don't forget there is a thread on NR1. Maybe pop back into that thread and post the parts you are having trouble with . I bet someone an help link you to the some good info. I believe there were some responses to the post you made there as well.

I mean I've thought Andrew Cuomo is a corrupt piece of garbage for many years now - while I guess I didn't know he was a pervy in addition to being a corrupt piece of garbage in the end that doesn't move the needle too much for me because I already hated him.

I imagine Cuomo figured COVID wouldn't be that bad because no one has had to deal with something like this before and since New York was the first place really hit badly it makes sense he would make mistakes and I don't blame him for that. I similarly don't blame Trump too much for his early mistakes - I blame him for the corruption and active misinformation campaign that followed once he knew it would be bad. Cuomo and DeSantis should both fry though as they both appear to have cooked the books on COVID. DeSantis may even merit prison depending on if the preferential vaccine distribution to his political supporters turns out to be true.

Before Covid I didn't know much about Cuomo. Initial impression was he seemed to care but then as he kept doing those daily morning updates it because clear he was using them to get his mug in front of a national audience. Like Rudy he used a national catastrophe to try and gain notoriety across the country. Now my impression is he isn't a good person.
 
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DeSantis is more popular than ever despite mass corruption and incompetence at least as bad as Cuomo and likely worse.

Worse.. This is just the tip of the corrupt iceberg Florida is enduring.

"“Transparency has gone downhill,” Marsh told the Miami Herald Editorial Board. “It got bad under Rick Scott when he was governor, but I do think it’s gotten worse under this administration.”

Florida blocked public access to COVID data. Now there’s even more it wants to keep secret from taxpayers


 

kage69

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Get back to me when you understand the difference between direct action and inaction.

Save your indignation for when you can attribute posts to the correct posters; I didn't use the word direct.

How about you get back to us when you're not always defending a criminal and traitor? Developing some integrity and not being an obtuse piece of shit might also take you far, who knows. Senior moments I can excuse, your dedication to carrying water for the liars who got hundreds of thousands killed, not so much. Do feel free to take that personally traitor.
 
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Worse.. This is just the tip of the corrupt iceberg Florida is enduring.

"“Transparency has gone downhill,” Marsh told the Miami Herald Editorial Board. “It got bad under Rick Scott when he was governor, but I do think it’s gotten worse under this administration.” "

Is there a more credible source than an opinion article. I make it a practice to avoid them and I did not find anything else on this. Would not doubt it but don't see any proof yet.
 

cytg111

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"Can I kiss you?"
- Omg he asked me if he could kiss me!! Cancel this pos stat.
 

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Yeah, that's true to some extent. But the nursing home issue happened first, and right now it's an investigation going on in the background. While the harassments complaints seem to be coming in once every few days at the moment. So I think that's also factoring in.

But what is the "there, there" in the nursing home issue? He made a policy that was a mistake in the beginning of the pandemic when there wasn't clear full info. He didn't do it on purpose to kill anyone and he doesn't seem to be even negligent in that action. If he lied about it and that is illegal he should be prosecuted. I'm no fan of Cuomo, but it seems outrageous to be going after him over the initial Nursing Home decision while Trump and the Federal govt. was at that same time lying about it being airborne and not telling people about the asymptomatic people could transfer it. I remember going grocery shopping at that time and just being mindful if people were coughing not knowing that I was at risk just via face to face contact with people who didn't look sick. How many people caught it and died by Trump's omission? And how do we expect state/local leaders to know more than what the Federagl govt. is telling them? So, yeah, unless there is something I'm missing about the nursing home issue, I have no issues with Coumo's early bad decision.
 
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What a shame, he seemed like such a nice man too. Just because he directly caused the deaths of 10's of thousands of elderly people and told someone to eat a sausage he's in trouble. Can't he play his "leftist media Emmy" card and make it all go away?
 

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What a shame, he seemed like such a nice man too. Just because he directly caused the deaths of 10's of thousands of elderly people and told someone to eat a sausage he's in trouble. Can't he play his "leftist media Emmy" card and make it all go away?

How did he cause the deaths of 10's of thousands of elderly people? And why are you not blaming Trump for the same when he knew the virus was airborne?
 
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How did he cause the deaths of 10's of thousands of elderly people? And why are you not blaming Trump for the same when he knew the virus was airborne?
What did you want him to actually, physically do? Run around and put masks on people? Wave a fan and blow the virus back to China? Restrict travel from China? ..........Oh wait, he did that.