Note to movie studios: Do NOT switch aspect ratios in the middle of the film.

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chuckywang

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Originally posted by: abaez
I've worked as a projectionist for six years and I highly doubt the film changed aspect ratio right in the middle of the movie without some sort of intermission. It may have been filmed a certain way, but it would have stayed the same throughout the film.

Besides, if one part was in scope and the lens on the projector was set to flat, the image would have been WAY stretched up and down beyond the borders of the screen. The other way around I think the image would have been showing on the curtains on the sides (been a long time).

Actually I just looked up the film information at www.film-tech.com:

Walt Disney
Scope
6 Reels
SRD/DTS/SDDS/Cyan
Attached Trailer: National Treasure 2
TES Depot

And this came in the cans: http://www.film-tech.com/uploa...oads0503/Enchanted.jpg.

So the theatre should have shown it as scope, even though the first 11 minutes appear to be in 1.85 (flat). It sounds like they had the wrong masking for the curtains but the correct lens.

Found this post on those forums:


However, there was an insert in the Enchanted can saying that the masking should be set for scope for the entire duration of the movie (even the flat part at the beginning)

In many cinemas, I've seen 'flat in scope format' pictures have a noticeable keystone on both sides of the image, regardless of whether they use horizontal or vertical masking!

I've seen the following kinds of masking in use at cinemas:
Side masking - two blinds moving in from the side
Top masking - single blind moving down from the top
Fixed width - two blinds moving in from the top and bottom
Four-way masking - two vertical AND two horizontal blinds moving!
No masking - flat films leave unprojected areas on the left and right!
 

arrfep

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Sep 7, 2006
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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: chuckywang
I recently went to see Enchanted, and the sides of the film were blocked by curtains. This was annoying enough to me that I went and complained to the theatre staff, where I was informed that they can't draw back the curtains. That was total BS, but I didn't want to miss any more of the movie, so I let it go.

Anyways, I was just reading the trivia for this movie here. If you're familiar with this movie, part of it is animated and part of it is live action. The animated parts were filmed with a 1.75:1 aspect ratio. The live action parts were filmed wtih a 2.35:1 aspect ratio. My suspicion was that the curtains were there to frame the movie as a 1.75:1 movie, but did not take into account the switch to 2.35:1. Therefore, during the live-action parts, parts of the sides were blocked by the curtains.

Now, I wish I could remember if the sides were blocked or not during the animated parts.....

The theater screwed up and didn't include the cues for masking/lens changes when they built the print. They were probably too lazy to tear it down and correct the problem.

Where did this happen?

Kerasotes Theatres Golf Mill.

:Q I saw Die Hard 4 and The Simpsons Movie there! Was pleased with both viewings...nice new clean theater. And sparsely attended as well.
 

Auric

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Originally posted by: OdiN
How about this? Everything should be in 16:9 so that there are no damned black bars when watching the movies on TV's - which are pretty much all 16:9 widescreens.

Crazy talk.

I don't want the cinematic experience ruined just to fill little TV's.