Note to movie studios: Do NOT switch aspect ratios in the middle of the film.

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chuckywang

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I recently went to see Enchanted, and the sides of the film were blocked by curtains. This was annoying enough to me that I went and complained to the theatre staff, where I was informed that they can't draw back the curtains. That was total BS, but I didn't want to miss any more of the movie, so I let it go.

Anyways, I was just reading the trivia for this movie here. If you're familiar with this movie, part of it is animated and part of it is live action. The animated parts were filmed with a 1.75:1 aspect ratio. The live action parts were filmed wtih a 2.35:1 aspect ratio. My suspicion was that the curtains were there to frame the movie as a 1.75:1 movie, but did not take into account the switch to 2.35:1. Therefore, during the live-action parts, parts of the sides were blocked by the curtains.

Now, I wish I could remember if the sides were blocked or not during the animated parts.....
 
waggy

waggy

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
You paid money to see Enchanted?
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heh i took my daughter to see it. she loved it! me? i just wanted the "princess" to come home with me..
 
K1052

K1052

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
I recently went to see Enchanted, and the sides of the film were blocked by curtains. This was annoying enough to me that I went and complained to the theatre staff, where I was informed that they can't draw back the curtains. That was total BS, but I didn't want to miss any more of the movie, so I let it go.

Anyways, I was just reading the trivia for this movie here. If you're familiar with this movie, part of it is animated and part of it is live action. The animated parts were filmed with a 1.75:1 aspect ratio. The live action parts were filmed wtih a 2.35:1 aspect ratio. My suspicion was that the curtains were there to frame the movie as a 1.75:1 movie, but did not take into account the switch to 2.35:1. Therefore, during the live-action parts, parts of the sides were blocked by the curtains.

Now, I wish I could remember if the sides were blocked or not during the animated parts.....
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The theater screwed up and didn't include the cues for masking/lens changes when they built the print. They were probably too lazy to tear it down and correct the problem.

Where did this happen?
 
waggy

waggy

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
You paid money to see Enchanted?
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Yes, and it was a better movie than you think.
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the song in the park was great. i was laughing at how they make fun of the other disney movies LOL

 
Gibson486

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
You paid money to see Enchanted?
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heh i took my daughter to see it. she loved it! me? i just wanted the "princess" to come home with me..
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what...your daughter does not live with you?;)
 
destrekor

destrekor

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
I recently went to see Enchanted, and the sides of the film were blocked by curtains. This was annoying enough to me that I went and complained to the theatre staff, where I was informed that they can't draw back the curtains. That was total BS, but I didn't want to miss any more of the movie, so I let it go.

Anyways, I was just reading the trivia for this movie here. If you're familiar with this movie, part of it is animated and part of it is live action. The animated parts were filmed with a 1.75:1 aspect ratio. The live action parts were filmed wtih a 2.35:1 aspect ratio. My suspicion was that the curtains were there to frame the movie as a 1.75:1 movie, but did not take into account the switch to 2.35:1. Therefore, during the live-action parts, parts of the sides were blocked by the curtains.

Now, I wish I could remember if the sides were blocked or not during the animated parts.....
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your suspicious should be right in regards to the curtains framing to the one aspect ratio, as that is what they are there to do. However, the theater should have retained all abilities to control the curtains. Yes, they are connected to an automated system based on the ratio of the film (and the lens used is even changed for different aspect ratios, well at least I was told thats how the machines at my old job functioned), but they should retain control, as our theater every now and then had complaints about the curtains, and the booth managers were able to correct the problem.. so..?

but wow.. a movie switching theatrical ratios? weird..
 
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chuckywang

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: chuckywang
I recently went to see Enchanted, and the sides of the film were blocked by curtains. This was annoying enough to me that I went and complained to the theatre staff, where I was informed that they can't draw back the curtains. That was total BS, but I didn't want to miss any more of the movie, so I let it go.

Anyways, I was just reading the trivia for this movie here. If you're familiar with this movie, part of it is animated and part of it is live action. The animated parts were filmed with a 1.75:1 aspect ratio. The live action parts were filmed wtih a 2.35:1 aspect ratio. My suspicion was that the curtains were there to frame the movie as a 1.75:1 movie, but did not take into account the switch to 2.35:1. Therefore, during the live-action parts, parts of the sides were blocked by the curtains.

Now, I wish I could remember if the sides were blocked or not during the animated parts.....
Click to expand...

The theater screwed up and didn't include the cues for masking/lens changes when they built the print. They were probably too lazy to tear it down and correct the problem.

Where did this happen?
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Kerasotes Theatres Golf Mill.
 
waggy

waggy

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
You paid money to see Enchanted?
Click to expand...

heh i took my daughter to see it. she loved it! me? i just wanted the "princess" to come home with me..
Click to expand...

what...your daughter does not live with you?;)
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lol ohh that was good.


have you seen previews? the "princess" is hot. i love the dress she makes out of his curtains. she has that innocent next door neighbor look to her that is sooo hot.
 
K1052

K1052

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: chuckywang
I recently went to see Enchanted, and the sides of the film were blocked by curtains. This was annoying enough to me that I went and complained to the theatre staff, where I was informed that they can't draw back the curtains. That was total BS, but I didn't want to miss any more of the movie, so I let it go.

Anyways, I was just reading the trivia for this movie here. If you're familiar with this movie, part of it is animated and part of it is live action. The animated parts were filmed with a 1.75:1 aspect ratio. The live action parts were filmed wtih a 2.35:1 aspect ratio. My suspicion was that the curtains were there to frame the movie as a 1.75:1 movie, but did not take into account the switch to 2.35:1. Therefore, during the live-action parts, parts of the sides were blocked by the curtains.

Now, I wish I could remember if the sides were blocked or not during the animated parts.....
Click to expand...

The theater screwed up and didn't include the cues for masking/lens changes when they built the print. They were probably too lazy to tear it down and correct the problem.

Where did this happen?
Click to expand...

Kerasotes Theatres Golf Mill.
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YHPM
 
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BooGiMaN

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i dont think they thought the movie out well when it comes to children

****SPOILERS****


my daughter and a few kids in the audience kept asking why the princess did not end up with and marry the prince




 
MmmSkyscraper

MmmSkyscraper

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Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
i dont think they thought the movie out well when it comes to children

my daughter and a few kids in the audience kept asking why the princess did not end up with and marry the prince
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ZOMGSPOILERZ! :|
 
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TruePaige

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
You paid money to see Enchanted?
Click to expand...

heh i took my daughter to see it. she loved it! me? i just wanted the "princess" to come home with me..
Click to expand...

what...your daughter does not live with you?;)
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lol ohh that was good.


have you seen previews? the "princess" is hot. i love the dress she makes out of his curtains. she has that innocent next door neighbor look to her that is sooo hot.
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pics?
 
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OdiN

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How about this? Everything should be in 16:9 so that there are no damned black bars when watching the movies on TV's - which are pretty much all 16:9 widescreens.
 
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abaez

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I've worked as a projectionist for six years and I highly doubt the film changed aspect ratio right in the middle of the movie without some sort of intermission. It may have been filmed a certain way, but it would have stayed the same throughout the film.

Besides, if one part was in scope and the lens on the projector was set to flat, the image would have been WAY stretched up and down beyond the borders of the screen. The other way around I think the image would have been showing on the curtains on the sides (been a long time).

Actually I just looked up the film information at www.film-tech.com:

Walt Disney
Scope
6 Reels
SRD/DTS/SDDS/Cyan
Attached Trailer: National Treasure 2
TES Depot

And this came in the cans: http://www.film-tech.com/uploa...oads0503/Enchanted.jpg.

So the theatre should have shown it as scope, even though the first 11 minutes appear to be in 1.85 (flat). It sounds like they had the wrong masking for the curtains but the correct lens.
 
daniel1113

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Originally posted by: OdiN
How about this? Everything should be in 16:9 so that there are no damned black bars when watching the movies on TV's - which are pretty much all 16:9 widescreens.
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How about no, Scott.
 
AbAbber2k

AbAbber2k

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
You paid money to see Enchanted?
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Yes, and it was a better movie than you think.
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Agreed. I went with my [now ex] and enjoyed it more than I expected. It was funny because it was basically a parody of every Disney movie ever made, mixed in with it's own plot.

And the GF was hotter than the princess.
 
K1052

K1052

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Originally posted by: abaez
I've worked as a projectionist for six years and I highly doubt the film changed aspect ratio right in the middle of the movie without some sort of intermission. It may have been filmed a certain way, but it would have stayed the same throughout the film.

Besides, if one part was in scope and the lens on the projector was set to flat, the image would have been WAY stretched up and down beyond the borders of the screen. The other way around I think the image would have been showing on the curtains on the sides (been a long time).

Actually I just looked up the film information at www.film-tech.com:

Walt Disney
Scope
6 Reels
SRD/DTS/SDDS/Cyan
Attached Trailer: National Treasure 2
TES Depot

And this came in the cans: http://www.film-tech.com/uploa...oads0503/Enchanted.jpg.

So the theatre should have shown it as scope, even though the first 11 minutes appear to be in 1.85 (flat). It sounds like they had the wrong masking for the curtains but the correct lens.
Click to expand...

The theater was even dumber than I thought since Technicolor provided (what should have been) foolproof instructions in the cans.
 
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