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Note 8 or ipad pro 10.5?

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Well bigger screen for one. Another benefit would be separation of duties between the phone and tablet, so your phone's battery would last longer since you're doing some stuff on the iPad, and vice versa. There's probably some specific apps that work better on an iPad compared to an Android phone, so that's something to consider.
 
The phone would be pretty much redundant apart from the odd phone call and text. Emails, messenger, everything else would be done on ipad.

What's wrong with using an ipad as a camera when out and about? Admittedly it is a bit big, but the screen would make an awesome viewfinder...?

Ian
 
The phone would be pretty much redundant apart from the odd phone call and text. Emails, messenger, everything else would be done on ipad.

What's wrong with using an ipad as a camera when out and about? Admittedly it is a bit big, but the screen would make an awesome viewfinder...?

Ian
I smack people who use ipads as a camera at the zoo or theater. I literally will smack you in the head.
 
I don't know how good the camera is in the iPad Pro, but it won't be as good as the Note 8. Plus as a camera it's MUCH bigger, so it would be annoying for any video recording, or taking pictures at anything other than a standard position. But mainly, it just looks ridiculous when people do it, and it's an annoyance if you're using it in places like a museum or whatnot. 😉
 
The phone would be pretty much redundant apart from the odd phone call and text. Emails, messenger, everything else would be done on ipad.

What's wrong with using an ipad as a camera when out and about? Admittedly it is a bit big, but the screen would make an awesome viewfinder...?

Ian

1) using IM on a tablet would be insane
2) I dont mean this as an insult, but if you don't see anything wrong with taking photos with a tablet, you are really weird.
3) you already have a new phone, op5? it's a great device, so i don't understand why do you even have this dilema in the first place.
 
I smack people who use ipads as a camera at the zoo or theater. I literally will smack you in the head.

Lol! 😀 I choked on my coffee with that one!

Tbh, I am leaning more towards the note 8. The better all rounder I think?

Thanks again

Ian
 
I don't know how good the camera is in the iPad Pro, but it won't be as good as the Note 8. Plus as a camera it's MUCH bigger, so it would be annoying for any video recording, or taking pictures at anything other than a standard position. But mainly, it just looks ridiculous when people do it, and it's an annoyance if you're using it in places like a museum or whatnot. 😉
The rare times i've even used the camera on my ipad pro 10.5 I thought the pics were mediocre at best and lousy at worst. I don't even know why they bother with rear cameras on tablets, be it ios or android, at all.
 
1) using IM on a tablet would be insane
2) I dont mean this as an insult, but if you don't see anything wrong with taking photos with a tablet, you are really weird.
3) you already have a new phone, op5? it's a great device, so i don't understand why do you even have this dilema in the first place.

1) Do you mean IM as in something like Facebook messenger? In what way?
2) I don't know if your in the UK, but in my working environment ipads are used a lot for taking pictures of ongoing repairs, new jobs, quotes for customers etc etc. It's normal to me, not weird. Again, this is business rather than personal usage tho.
3) I did have a op5, but wasn't keen on it. Got the black one a week or so after release, sold it a couple of weeks ago to a friend. Don't know why I didn't like it, as I have had a op1 and op3 over the years and liked them.

Thanks

Ian
 
1) Do you mean IM as in something like Facebook messenger? In what way?
2) I don't know if your in the UK, but in my working environment ipads are used a lot for taking pictures of ongoing repairs, new jobs, quotes for customers etc etc. It's normal to me, not weird. Again, this is business rather than personal usage tho.
3) I did have a op5, but wasn't keen on it. Got the black one a week or so after release, sold it a couple of weeks ago to a friend. Don't know why I didn't like it, as I have had a op1 and op3 over the years and liked them.

Thanks

Ian

1) because, where woul you kerp the ipad? In a bag. Are you gonna take it out for every message and notification you get?
Also, since you obviously do have a budget limit (because you want to pick only 1 device) paying for a separate sim is extra expense..
Also, typing on a tablet is harder than on a phone.
2) for work purposes, it's ok. For scanning documents and some such. But in public, when out and about, it's just weird. To me, same weird as, i dont know, people putting 10000000 leds on their cars. It just weird, its unnecessarily harder than uding the phone, cameras are worse.. theres just no upside.
3) thats strange. You must have gotten bored. I know a few people like that 🙂 i never understood them though.

In any case, as you can see, 100% of advices were to go for the note between the two.
 
I could stretch the budget, but then I'm knocking on the doors of £1700.... and it's too close to Christmas for that kind of outlay. Especially when just the one right device will suit my needs, if that makes sense. I still have to get the wife and 4 kids presents too lol 🙂

The op5 was a nice enough phone, but wasn't anything.... Special? It was just a phone. Whereas admittedly the note 8 is more expensive for example, but it's more than just a phone. It's like I'm not the slightest bit interested in the new pixels. The pixel xl 2 with the most memory isn't far off in price from the note 8, sim free here in the UK. But the pixel is just a phone. It doesn't have a stylus. It doesn't have half the software the note 8 has. It's not special enough to Warrent the money Google want you to pay. Or At least to me it isn't.

🙂 ian
 
I love my iPad Pro 10.5, and I'd still say to go with the Note 8 (or if you wanted iOS, an iPhone 8 Plus or iPhone X).

The iPad would definitely be the better media consumption device and would make it easier to handle tasks like email, but it'll probably drive you up the wall the first time you have to leave the iPad at home (say, because you're at the pub). Consolidation is a beautiful thing. That and you don't want to be That Guy who's taking photos at the football match with a 10-inch tablet.
 
The rare times i've even used the camera on my ipad pro 10.5 I thought the pics were mediocre at best and lousy at worst. I don't even know why they bother with rear cameras on tablets, be it ios or android, at all.

I've heard great things on the 10.5 camera, as in its exactly the same as the one in iPhone 7. Your the first so far to say it's not very good? It'd be handy to know other owners thoughts on the camera too. A lot of the reviews on YouTube use iPhone 7 pics as examples of what can be taken with the 10.5. Maybe this isn't really the case?

Regardless, I am leaning more towards the note 8. I'm sure I can still web browse, send email, and consume other media on it just fine.

Thanks

Ian
 
I could stretch the budget, but then I'm knocking on the doors of £1700.... and it's too close to Christmas for that kind of outlay. Especially when just the one right device will suit my needs, if that makes sense. I still have to get the wife and 4 kids presents too lol 🙂

The op5 was a nice enough phone, but wasn't anything.... Special? It was just a phone. Whereas admittedly the note 8 is more expensive for example, but it's more than just a phone. It's like I'm not the slightest bit interested in the new pixels. The pixel xl 2 with the most memory isn't far off in price from the note 8, sim free here in the UK. But the pixel is just a phone. It doesn't have a stylus. It doesn't have half the software the note 8 has. It's not special enough to Warrent the money Google want you to pay. Or At least to me it isn't.

🙂 ian

Of course, this is highly subjective. And i might be a minority.
But, TouchWiz has very, very little in the way of extra software that's actually useful. it's just pure garbage and bloat. Which is why it's universally hated by geeks. Like me. Samsung just does not do good software. They don't know how to do it.
Why would they be making their own calendar, browsers and mail apps when we already have gmail, google calendar and chrome?

Pen on a phone is vastly over appreciated, unless you really have a clear need for it, and specific apps you would be using it. I've known many ~dozen people with Note 4/5/6, and nobody every used the pen after trying it out a few times in the beginning. Maybe you would be the exception, but I would not hold my breath for it 🙂

Oneplus (even with a few bugs) or especially google with the new pixels are vastly superior in this regard. Better performance and faster more fluid experience, with far less, if any, bloat. Than you are free to use the play store to add anything else you need.
 
Of course, this is highly subjective. And i might be a minority.
But, TouchWiz has very, very little in the way of extra software that's actually useful. it's just pure garbage and bloat. Which is why it's universally hated by geeks. Like me. Samsung just does not do good software. They don't know how to do it.
Why would they be making their own calendar, browsers and mail apps when we already have gmail, google calendar and chrome?

Pen on a phone is vastly over appreciated, unless you really have a clear need for it, and specific apps you would be using it. I've known many ~dozen people with Note 4/5/6, and nobody every used the pen after trying it out a few times in the beginning. Maybe you would be the exception, but I would not hold my breath for it 🙂

Oneplus (even with a few bugs) or especially google with the new pixels are vastly superior in this regard. Better performance and faster more fluid experience, with far less, if any, bloat. Than you are free to use the play store to add anything else you need.
People like you who always say touchwiz is garbage or bloat obviously don't know how to use a galaxy phone. TW is light years ahead of most UIs. Really, stick with an iphone. The samsung calendar and email app is great for several iterations. Gmail for all email accounts is horrible. Its even horrible for gmail accounts. And, while not necessary, the samsung browser is actually very good. I never understood why people buy a Note and never use the pen and complain about it being useless. Those are stupid idiots as the whole point of a Note phone is the pen. I use mine all they time even for mundane things like browsing as i'd rather use the pen than swiping with my fingers and always have to clean the glass from smudges.
 
Oyeve, dont you think thats a bit harsh?

My coworkers are buying all the latest galaxy phones, hoping that they fixed tw, but it's always the same thing.. It just does not perform according to price. Slowdowns start very soon, and they are noticeable side by side.

I never said Samsung email client is bad, but i also dont understand what could you possibly find bad about Gmail app. Other than customizable swipe actions 🙂

And if you dont see a benefit in having your desktop and mobile browser sync, you are not doing it right 🙂

I might be wrong about pen, but than please correct me, give me some usecases?
 
I do use the pen/stylus a lot when available. Browsing, gaming (games like baldur's gate for example), drawing, note taking, anything I don't need to type for really. Hence why the choice is between the note 8 and ipad 10.5.

I prefer the Samsung mail app to Microsoft Outlook for my Microsoft and other accounts. But I prefer the Gmail app for my Gmail account. I'd probably use the apple mail app for everything barring Gmail on the iPad, if I got one.

Ian
 
Oyeve, dont you think thats a bit harsh?

My coworkers are buying all the latest galaxy phones, hoping that they fixed tw, but it's always the same thing.. It just does not perform according to price. Slowdowns start very soon, and they are noticeable side by side.

I never said Samsung email client is bad, but i also dont understand what could you possibly find bad about Gmail app. Other than customizable swipe actions 🙂

And if you dont see a benefit in having your desktop and mobile browser sync, you are not doing it right 🙂

I might be wrong about pen, but than please correct me, give me some usecases?
I may be a bit harsh but the whole "TW sucks" BS died around 3 versions ago.
 
I do use the pen/stylus a lot when available. Browsing, gaming (games like baldur's gate for example), drawing, note taking, anything I don't need to type for really. Hence why the choice is between the note 8 and ipad 10.5.

I prefer the Samsung mail app to Microsoft Outlook for my Microsoft and other accounts. But I prefer the Gmail app for my Gmail account. I'd probably use the apple mail app for everything barring Gmail on the iPad, if I got one.

Ian
Yeah games like Baldur's Gate absolutely need the stylus IMHO, it's practically unplayable on a phone without one.

I definitely will miss apps like S Note when I get my Pixel 2 XL, I really like being able to write and draw on my phone, it comes in handy more often than you think, and even becomes necessary when you start to use it a lot and rely on it.
 
How come you've gone for the pixel 2 XL if your going to miss the s pen? Just fancied a change kinda thing? Just curious, that's all

Thanks

Ian
 
My coworkers are buying all the latest galaxy phones...
Meh, the "my friends are doing..." therefore it sucks, anecdotal evidence thing rarely files.

There's nothing remotely 'slow' about my Note 8. These arguments may have flown back during the Note 4 era and previous, but today: your co-workers are doing something wrong.

It's also purely silly to buy a Note, if a person would have been better suited with an Galaxy + model. Paying more for a wacom digitizer and pen- and then not knowing how to use it, or have any use for it is just silly.

Meanwhile, the Note is an awesome tool in the hands of people that actually know what it is and how to use it. it's a freakin' miniature Wacom Cintiq in your pocket. For an artist/storyboard person/ draftsman/ designer/ note taker etc, this is a dream come true. There's a reason Samsung still makes the Note- even after one of the worst foul-ups in tech history with the Note 7- many many people want and use them.

The built in apps have only gotten better- it matters not if someone else doesn't know that. The new note-taking app is fantastic- it has a line-writing mode, that when used with the pencil setting in its finest point size, takes the best hand-written notes I've ever seen. There's no other tool for note taking that can hold a candle to it IMO- and this on my phone!

And this nonsense attitude like you can't use all the other Google apps and everything else on the Note.

Many of the best drawing/writing/vector/inkining/photo editing apps are s-pen enabled, so really, you're never getting the best of them WITHOUT using a Note. ArtRage, ArtFlow, Moble Adobe Apps, SketchBook, Squid, One Note, etc are all at their best using the S-pen- most would be useless just finger-to-screen, or some silly non-active stylus.

I just flew back and forth across the country, and was able to do some production sketches on my Note, where I'd otherwise have been twiddling my thumbs. I know of people who've drawn out an entire production storyboard... on their phone!- rather than be stuck somewhere where they couldn't do anything productive. No other device can do all that like the Note.

The whole touchwiz argument is silly to me, because Im still not exactly sure what all that even is. Is it the launcher I ***never*** use? Is it the notifications? menus? Windows? on screen buttons? I honestly have no freakin' idea because I don't give a flying rat. I mainly do like most other people- open my phone, launch an app- use it. Since owning a Note 2 all the way to my present Note 8 I've given exactly zero seconds worth of a damn about what exactly Touchwiz is, and why it supposedly in anyway affects me using my device.

I suspect all some people do is turn a device on and spend a lot of time navel gazing over silly little details, because there's not a whole lot else they DO with the device. Like people I used to know that would build kickass PC's with all the bells and whistles and do not one damn thing with it, but tout benchmark scores and finagle over framerates and other such minutia- but then not even game with it! I suspect there's a subset of mobile device geeks that are similar.
 
How come you've gone for the pixel 2 XL if your going to miss the s pen? Just fancied a change kinda thing? Just curious, that's all

Thanks

Ian
While I definitely like the stylus, I already have a stylus equipped device at home (Chromebook Plus) so it's not as important for me, plus I don't really play games much anymore so that doesn't really factor in for me. I have always been a Google Nexus/Pixel fan, I just didn't get the 1st Pixel because the bezels were too big. This year's XL looks very nice to me. I'm sure the Note 8 is a great device, but I like Google's software a lot better.
 
Zaap, I feel we are looking at this from different perspectives.

OP has not declared that he is working in such a profession where drawing and note taking is a must. So I took a stand from a regular/power user CONSUMER POV.

You can say what you want, but Note series is NOT being advertised just for such professionals. It's being advertised as the absolute peak of what Samsung in general can offer, or at the very least as a midterm flagship. The fact of the matter is, that my observation of the relative uselessness of S-Pen was based on usage patterns I saw not only from my immediate friends, but also from comments of people around the net. Certainly it's circumstantial, but I would bet my house that only a very small minority of Note users use the pen on any regular basis. It's a gimmick for most people how actually by the phone.

Regarding performance, I did not pull this out of my ass. GS8 after only a month of light usage, and only a handful of apps installed (there was not even facebook there) was stuttering all over the place. Worst of all, memory management is seriously not good there. For example, a phone app, something that a lot of people still use on their phone, does not remain in "cache". Meaning, open a few apps, than try to get back to phone, and there is a small but noticeable and irritating lag when opening. This is maybe not a big problem, but it's something inexcusable for an expensive flagship.

Also, maybe I am under the wrong impression, but XDA is still held in good regard? Well, they had an article about Note 7 performance. It was not good.
GS8 is not much better. but apparently, with Note8, they finally did some good. So maybe there is hope 🙂

But at the end of the day, it's ALL very subjective and circumstantial.
 
Drawing isn't my profession, but I do like to draw the odd doodle lol 🙂

Now your putting me off the note 8 and making me think I should get the iPad and put up with the size lol 😀🙄

Ian
 
Thanks for the link, it's an interesting read. Time will tell regarding performance I guess. The Samsung galaxy s6 edge I'm using at the min isn't too bad speed wise really. Battery life is appalling tho.

Ian
 
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