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Note 4 (now $200 rebate with any $10+ trade-in!)

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Anyone know how or where to get a t-mobile phone, unlocked, without being a customer? Is the secondhand market the only option? I'm an Att customer but the t-mobile version of the Note 3 had so much more aftermarket support.
 
dawheat said:
Anyone know how or where to get a t-mobile phone, unlocked, without being a customer? Is the secondhand market the only option? I'm an Att customer but the t-mobile version of the Note 3 had so much more aftermarket support.
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you gotta give it to someone with T-mobile for like 60 days (2 billing payments). So they can request an unlock.
if not I think samsung is actually really easy to unlock. There are many different ways to do it on Xda.
 
Dari said:
Oh, I had no idea Apple had a similar deal...
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Not Apple, but all major networks were offering $200 minimum for any iPhone 4 or newer.

It makes absolute sense for Samsung to counter with their own $200 minimum promo, and theirs is a better deal since it works with any phone valued at $10 or more. Best Buy just joined the fray by matching Samsung's deal but offering an instant BB gift card instead: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/promo/sa...-note-4-128435

Remember that in the US, a lion's share of new phone purchases are on a 2-year contract. Giving the customer a minimum of $200 back is pocket change on a 2-year contract for the carrier. Samsung and the carriers likely worked out a deal where they share the expense of this promotion because it's good for all parties involved: the carrier gets a monthly payment for 2 years, and Samsung has a user for 2 years.

We are still very much in the land grab stage, so a little money spent now locking in a user will pay out down the road.
 
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jpeyton said:
Not Apple, but all major networks were offering $200 minimum for any iPhone 4 or newer.

It makes absolute sense for Samsung to counter with their own $200 minimum promo, and theirs is a better deal since it works with any phone valued at $10 or more. Best Buy just joined the fray by matching Samsung's deal but offering an instant BB gift card instead: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/promo/sa...-note-4-128435

Remember that in the US, a lion's share of new phone purchases are on a 2-year contract. Giving the customer a minimum of $200 back is pocket change on a 2-year contract for the carrier. Samsung and the carriers likely worked out a deal where they share the expense of this promotion because it's good for all parties involved: the carrier gets a monthly payment for 2 years, and Samsung has a user for 2 years.

We are still very much in the land grab stage, so a little money spent now locking in a user will pay out down the road.
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First of all, it's $200 max, not min. Second, unlike Apple, nobody cares about Samsung's store or Android skin so there is little loyalty there when upgrading. Third, 2 year contracts are no longer the "lion share". T-Mobile really revolutionized phone contracts with their Jump program (that all their competitors copied). Those trade-up programs are 45% of new contracts compared to paying $200 for a new phone every 2 years. The point of that program was to pass pass on the true cost of these phones to customers. It's working. The "upshot" for customers is that they get to trade in their phone anytime. The obvious lesson for them is that they should be price conscious but not many are. People always want something new and shiny even though they use the same apps and go to the same places...
 
Grabbed from a random XDA thread:
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The trade-in promotion has me interested...the Note would be too big for me, but I'm trying to maximize my AT&T upgrade. My options are:

1.) Trade-in old iPhone 3G for Note 4, paying $100 net. Sell Note 4 NIB upon getting it.
2.) Buy iPhone 6. Open, use, play with it for a month or two. If not satisfied, sell it.

How much do you think I'd be able to sell the Note 4 for?
 
EvilYoda said:
The trade-in promotion has me interested...the Note would be too big for me, but I'm trying to maximize my AT&T upgrade. My options are:

1.) Trade-in old iPhone 3G for Note 4, paying $100 net. Sell Note 4 NIB upon getting it.
2.) Buy iPhone 6. Open, use, play with it for a month or two. If not satisfied, sell it.

How much do you think I'd be able to sell the Note 4 for?
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I think Verizon Note 4 is $699 (and verizon phones are unlocked for GSM). So, probably around 600-650 ?
 
jpeyton said:
Note 4 vs 6+:

http://translate.googleusercontent....4.html&usg=ALkJrhj6C4c4Dj2jEOMD17TVxlruMkk0eA

Note 4 has a better display hands down, and an edge on photo quality.
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That screen on the Note 4 - surely the rate of improvements of AMOLEDs has to slow down as it's hard to argue against it being the best smartphone screen around. It's 1440p yet draws less power than the Note 3 screen. Can next year's screen really be much better?

It's too bad Android L isn't available at the same time, thought I'm encouraged by the reports that it'll be released on the Note 4 and S5 before the end of the year.
 
If Android L comes out in November with the Nexus 5 then Samsung has to get their hands on it and then the carriers get it. From Google to Samsung might go quick but Samsung to the carriers and released by the carriers is never quick. I would be shocked if Android L was released for anything other than the Nexus and possibly Moto X by the end of the year.
 
Radeon962 said:
If Android L comes out in November with the Nexus 5 then Samsung has to get their hands on it and then the carriers get it.
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Uh, no. Half of the L preview stuff is surely that the OEMs are *all* getting early looks at the code while the community plays with the Nexus 5 version. I bet there are already near-complete adaptations of Sense, TouchWiz, etc. cooked up.
 
s44 said:
Uh, no. Half of the L preview stuff is surely that the OEMs are *all* getting early looks at the code while the community plays with the Nexus 5 version. I bet there are already near-complete adaptations of Sense, TouchWiz, etc. cooked up.
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The only problem now is how fast the carriers rolling out Android L this time. I expect Tmobile or Sprint will be first, Verizon and AT&T after (I could be wrong though)
 
It has to do with RGB color reproduction. What they show is both screens are capable of completely reproducing the sRGB gamut. For comparison, here is a graph showing the "extended" gamut of a Dell 2408WFP:

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rcpratt said:
I've never tried. I assume the shapes being superimposed is good?
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Yup. And the alignment of the little circles and boxes shows the accuracy *within* the colorspace. The Note 4 is near-perfectly calibrated, while the 6+ has some flaws.
 
I still think color accuracy on mobile is way blown out of proportion in reviewing process in the past by certain persona with an agenda. I have not encountered one person who grumbles about inaccurate colors on their devices in real life. There are truly bad panels with washed-out screens or too much reflection, not enough brightness etc., which have bigger impacts on mobile device usability.

"Mobile" by definition implies constantly changing environments. While I agree that color accuracy matters but I would put it at 3rd or 4th priority in choosing mobile display.
 
WelshBloke said:
I can never read those things. 🙁
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The squares are where the round dots should be for accuracy. According to this measurement, iPhone 6's screen is under-saturated on read/green and over-saturated on blue, while magenta and cyan are off-hue.

Still an acceptable screen for sure.
 
lopri said:
I still think color accuracy on mobile is way blown out of proportion in reviewing process in the past by certain persona with an agenda. I have not encountered one person who grumbles about inaccurate colors on their devices in real life. There are truly bad panels with washed-out screens or too much reflection, not enough brightness etc., which have bigger impacts on mobile device usability.

"Mobile" by definition implies constantly changing environments. While I agree that color accuracy matters but I would put it at 3rd or 4th priority in choosing mobile display.
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100% in agreement with you.
 
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