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Not Wanting Kids Is Entirely Normal

waggy

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I would think that's common sense. Not everyone wants (or SHOULD) have kids.
 

ichy

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It's surprising how many people have this attitude that "oh, you'll change your mind" when I tell them I don't want children. When I tell them I'm dating a woman who doesn't want kids they get even worse and insist she's lying.

This isn't meant to be an anti-kids post BTW. Obviously the majority of people DO want children, if they didn't we'd be going extinct. It's not a universal desire though, despite what some people claim.
 

highland145

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I would think that's common sense. Not everyone wants (or SHOULD) have kids.
Too bad we can't limit the bolded.

Wasn't sure if we wanted to have/adopt/none but....oops....baby was formed.:p

The most excellent "accident" to ever happen to me.
 

blackdogdeek

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i don't think we really need science to tell us that different people want, and are entitled to, different things out of life.
 

sourceninja

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My wife and I have a agreement. If ether one of us wants kids we will get a divorce. That's how much we are sure neither of us want kids.
 

nickbits

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If my wife changes her mind and wants kids , she will need to get a divorce. I got a vascetomy last year.
 

Jeff7

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It's surprising how many people have this attitude that "oh, you'll change your mind" when I tell them I don't want children. When I tell them I'm dating a woman who doesn't want kids they get even worse and insist she's lying.

This isn't meant to be an anti-kids post BTW. Obviously the majority of people DO want children, if they didn't we'd be going extinct. It's not a universal desire though, despite what some people claim.
My dad was the same way. (And may well still be.)
I'm 30 now, and still have absolutely no desire to have kids, at least until stasis pods are invented. Don't feel like taking care of them? Back in stasis. Pause, and resume later.
But that would probably be cruel and irresponsible. All the more reason not to have them. :D

And I know full well that raising kids well requires significant resources, both in terms of money, time, and emotional investment. I don't want to put forth those things, so the reasonable solution is to not have kids. Not a tough decision to make.



Yeah, I like making new things at work and seeing them go off into the world to perform their intended function. They're not sentient though, so they don't talk back at me, and they don't ever decide to do things on their own.



Stuff in the OP's article about child abandonment: Yup, we're just another animal species on this planet. Animals will sometimes abandon their offspring, and we do a very consistent job of showing our long biological history.
 
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Mixolydian

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It's a lot of work and costs a lot of money to raise kids. If it's not right for you, then it's not right for you. That's all there is to it. No one should feel obligated to have kids.
 

DesiPower

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Most of the people who don’t want kids are educated, high IQ, tax paying, white collar workers who get paid well, if they don’t have kids, who will pay for the entitlement for the next generation? More and people are jumping on the wagon and less and less pulling it, we need more people pulling the wagon. So well paid people, please do not stop making babies or the future of the country is doomed.

/use_sarcasm_meter
 

waggy

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I am not so sure I want kids anymore either.
Seems like an enormous hassle.

it is. but well worth it!


but do not have kids until you are ready and want them. it's a major life changer. you can't still be the party person you are before kids.
 

Rudee

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If I had kids there is no way I would of been able to pay off a $250k Mortgage early like I did recently. No friggin way. My longtime girlfriend and I have no desire to have kids, have no debt, and are swimming in disposable income. Zero regrets!
 

JulesMaximus

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http://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...rely-normal/262367/?google_editors_picks=true

Yay, I now have science to back up my claim that I'm not abnormal for not wanting kids (admittedly this was about women, but the basic point still seems valid.) Makes me wonder how many people crank out kids just because society expects them to?

I never wanted kids either. My wife did though so we have a son now and honestly it scares the crap out of me sometimes to think about the world he is growing up in but I love him dearly and wouldn't trade being his father for anything.
 

ReggieDunlap

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I have 3 children, 1 will be 8yrs old in December, the other 2 (fraternal twins) will be 2 yrs old this month.

I can ABSOLUTELY understand a person's or couple's wish to NOT have children. While there are numerous rewards, they are a life altering addition, and I can appreciate a person's acceptance of themselves to recognize that they would not want that kind of life versus the life they currently live. Good for them for not bowing to societal pressures.

FWIW, I love my children dearly, and I wouldn't trade them, but I've been dog tired for the past 8 years and don't see much rest in sight for another 3 or 4 easy.
 

SlitheryDee

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I don't really want kids right now, but wanting kids has to be the preferred state of mind from an evolutionary standpoint. Otherwise when aliens visit our planet in a few thousand years they'll marvel at the fact that the dominant species died out because "none of them wanted kids".
 

waggy

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If I had kids there is no way I would of been able to pay off a $250k Mortgage early like I did recently. No friggin way. My longtime girlfriend and I have no desire to have kids, have no debt, and are swimming in disposable income. Zero regrets!

LOL yeah i remember those times. before kids i upgraded my computer yearly, had new motorcycles, cars, went on trips etc. Yeah i had my 1st house damn near paid off too

edit: also thinking about it. Many friends i had when i was like you i lost. they just didn't want to have families or do the "family friendly" type things. i see them occasionally but they are off doing what they want. We are doing what we want. You know what? that's ok with me. i have friends (with kids) who i enjoy having around.



I love talking about kids. not just mine but others too. We have had a rough time with my daughter (heh i post a lot about her) from having siezures as a baby to now at 10 being on a high level gymnastics team (wich is fucking killing me. getting expensive). My son is 6 (just turned 6 this monty) and going for his green belt in teakwondo (if he would focus better he would have it already)

my life is going to practice or tournements and weekends with friends. its nto the fast passed party time i had. but hell im 40 and dont need that shit.
 
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TraumaRN

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I was fairly certain growing up that I did not want kids, and then I got married. Then my ex wife went fucking crazy on me. Now I'm divorced.

Now I'm 100% certain I don't want kids. Just not worth it to me. I'd rather travel, donate to charity and improve the world I'm living in right now than try and raise another human being.
 

JoeyP

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My experience is that people fall into one of these categories

1. Want kids because they've always yearned for bringing a child into the world, helping that child mature, giving values but allowing the child to form his/her own, being part of the growth process for child and parents.

2. Want kids because they think that is what is to be expected when you get married. Some are prepared and do well, others not so well.

3. Don't want kids, but have them anyway in hopes the kids will help glue together the marriage. Kids usually suffer because of divorce or resentment.

4. Cannot have kids for some reason, but advertise this as Not Wanting Kids. Maybe one is sterile or there were several miscarriages or complications, or maybe the mom or dad are old, and they simply do not want to talk about it or go into detail publicly.

5. Have not yet had the "trigger" that made them seriously consider having kids. For some, it is a certain age or situation that makes them change from not wanting kids to wanting kids.

I didn't consider kids until I was around 28, then certain things fell into place, and I was equipped mentally/financially/maturity to realize I wanted kids. It doesn't happen to everyone.
 
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My experience is that people fall into one of these categories

1. Want kids because they've always yearned for bringing a child into the world, helping that child mature, giving values but allowing the child to form his/her own, being part of the growth process for child and parents.

2. Want kids because they think that is what is to be expected when you get married. Some are prepared and do well, others not so well.

3. Don't want kids, but have them anyway in hopes the kids will help glue together the marriage. Kids usually suffer because of divorce or resentment.

4. Cannot have kids for some reason, but advertise this as Not Wanting Kids. Maybe one is sterile or there were several miscarriages or complications, or maybe the mom or dad are old, and they simply do not want to talk about it or go into detail publicly.

5. Have not yet had the "trigger" that made them seriously consider having kids. For some, it is a certain age or situation that makes them change from not wanting kids to wanting kids.

I didn't consider kids until I was around 28, then certain things fell into place, and I was equipped mentally/financially/maturity to realize I wanted kids. It doesn't happen to everyone.

You're an idiot.