Not to Open This Canna Worms Again, But...

[rockfella79]

Penicillin was a life saver. Windows 8 is chaos. Only (maybe) good for touch screen/pads/tabs. No idea how desktop users will be any good with it. OS is a means to an end, the learning curve with 8 is too steep and not needed.

So what would we do about the Millions of people (and their numbers are growing by the hour) that Like touch?

When the bases of Penicillin was discovered it was rejected. Millions could be saved if it was early adopted.

Can you imagine life these days without Antibiotic?

That said, Touch screen is no way as important as Penicillin, but the "Strange" reaction of Humans to adopt real New is similar.

 

[flexy]

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OS is a means to an end, the learning curve with 8 is too steep and not needed.
>>

In the two days I am running 8/8.1 now I have learned that 8 is VERY flexible. You do in fact spread false information (now look at me as someone who who looks at a comment such as yours for making a decision what OS to install...)...because what you say is definitely not true. The last time I even SAW start/metro was like 24hrs ago. 8/8.1 is indeed so flexible that you can configure it you will NEVER see the touch crap...or you can configure it to use touch only if you have a mobile device. And this is simply the truth.

(I *could* make a screen recording of my old Win7 system where you see me working on my desktop, using applications etc. and another recording now running Win8.1, you would NOT see any difference unless it comes to details, like Explorer windows, task manager etc...and some of THAT stuff is actually pretty good in 8/8.1).

 

[taq8ojh]

gotta love little kids spreading false information...

...said the pixels.

 

[rockfella79]

So why did you switch over from 7 to 8?

>>
OS is a means to an end, the learning curve with 8 is too steep and not needed.
>>

In the two days I am running 8/8.1 now I have learned that 8 is VERY flexible. You do in fact spread false information (now look at me as someone who who looks at a comment such as yours for making a decision what OS to install...)...because what you say is definitely not true. The last time I even SAW start/metro was like 24hrs ago. 8/8.1 is indeed so flexible that you can configure it you will NEVER see the touch crap...or you can configure it to use touch only if you have a mobile device. And this is simply the truth.

(I *could* make a screen recording of my old Win7 system where you see me working on my desktop, using applications etc. and another recording now running Win8.1, you would NOT see any difference unless it comes to details, like Explorer windows, task manager etc...and some of THAT stuff is actually pretty good in 8/8.1).

 

[flexy]

So why did you switch over from 7 to 8?

*) I am about to build a new machine (IF MY EFFING CLIENT EFFING PAYS ME ), so one reason is to simply see what it is all about. (I am not fond of the idea to build a new PC on an old OS)

*) According to users on forums, Win8.1 plays some games smoother and it has better memory handling/management. In other words, aside from more DirectX features in the future it has more goodies "under the hood".

And..I CAN CONFIRM THIS...hey I just found out that you can mount (!) .ISOs etc. as virtual drives from within Explorer just by clicking on them. That alone is amazing, I can get rid of daemon tools, power ISO etc.

What I work with right now is Dragon Naturally Speaking (voice recognition) and Word, and this is definitely "sort of" demanding in terms of memory usage and overall resources. (I still have a very old system with 4GB memory).

I swear that I have a notable better responsiveness and it's faster, and I also swear to god that voice recognition is a little better now with less recognition errors.

I also noticed that using Palemoon, websites scroll notably smoother. (I think the hardware scrolling works better than under 7)

Also...for some reason (I have no idea how and why) I have more space free on my OS SSD now (mind you I upgraded so all Win7 applications had been kept)..nevertheless I have a couple or so GB more free space on the SSD. Another good thing.

And those are only the things I have spotted now, I haven't played games yet etc.

Edit: I am aware that switching 7 --> 8 is not really "necessary" by all means..but how better to get an idea about stuff without trying it? I also wanted to avoid that I build a new PC and install 8...just to find out that I might not really like the OS whatsoever and then having to reinstall. I can definitely check that off now, 8.1 is a keeper.

 

[bgt]

I am not fond of the idea to build a new PC on an old OS

Me too. If custummers order a desktop or a laptop I'ld tell them............only with Win8.1, otherwise go somewhere else. 7 is history........gone.

 

[Torn Mind]

It is entirely unnecessary to have touch on a Windows 8 desktop. So long as your mouse speed is not snail slow, you can hit the corners with surprising rapidity.

Touch is not required, but for those who can afford it, it just adds another way to use it.

That problem with Win 8 is that Microsoft, although understandably to look "professional", was quite "lean" in easing transitioning its users to the new OS during the installation process. When the start menu was gone, they didn't do a good job of telling the users what to do in the new OS to execute familiar functions. For example, I like the right click menu that shows up when right-clicking in the old Start button area, but I didn't know that existed until last week, and I had been using Win8 since the end of September.

 

[Torn Mind]

*) I am about to build a new machine (IF MY EFFING CLIENT EFFING PAYS ME ), so one reason is to simply see what it is all about. (I am not fond of the idea to build a new PC on an old OS)

*) According to users on forums, Win8.1 plays some games smoother and it has better memory handling/management. In other words, aside from more DirectX features in the future it has more goodies "under the hood".

And..I CAN CONFIRM THIS...hey I just found out that you can mount (!) .ISOs etc. as virtual drives from within Explorer just by clicking on them. That alone is amazing, I can get rid of daemon tools, power ISO etc.

What I work with right now is Dragon Naturally Speaking (voice recognition) and Word, and this is definitely "sort of" demanding in terms of memory usage and overall resources. (I still have a very old system with 4GB memory).

I swear that I have a notable better responsiveness and it's faster, and I also swear to god that voice recognition is a little better now with less recognition errors.

I also noticed that using Palemoon, websites scroll notably smoother. (I think the hardware scrolling works better than under 7)

Also...for some reason (I have no idea how and why) I have more space free on my OS SSD now (mind you I upgraded so all Win7 applications had been kept)..nevertheless I have a couple or so GB more free space on the SSD. Another good thing.

And those are only the things I have spotted now, I haven't played games yet etc.

Edit: I am aware that switching 7 --> 8 is not really "necessary" by all means..but how better to get an idea about stuff without trying it? I also wanted to avoid that I build a new PC and install 8...just to find out that I might not really like the OS whatsoever and then having to reinstall. I can definitely check that off now, 8.1 is a keeper.

My freshly installed Win 8 machine with all security updates and few select rollup packs should occupy approximately 25 GB of space. Win 7 Ultimate SP1, with all important updates installed, takes about 31 GBs.

 

[Torn Mind]

I tried the Windows 8.1 trial a few days ago. This was my very first and last experience with that OS. I just wanted to see with my own eyes what is was like.

I was disgusted during the installation already, because requiring users to register at Microsoft is completely retarded. Also, rapidly changing bright shades of green-blue-red-purple background almost made me throw up and go into epilepsy attack.

When the system booted, I was horrified. It's completely counter-intuitive and awkward as hell. I was staring at bright coloured rectangles which represented completely useless apps I didn't ask for (nor was I presented with any choices of installation). There is no indication how to control the whole thing whatsoever.
I was randomly mousing over the whole desktop until I found out some sort of menu appeared near right edge. Interesting fact is even the most basic things like opening Control panel or shuttting your PC down take ton (relatively to the outdated and useless previous version) of clicking through illogically designed menus.

The MOST important feature of this highly innovative and productive OS seems to be SHARE!!!!

I accidentally managed to switch to the classic desktop by trying to open Task manager with my usual Ctrl-Shift-Esc combination.
Yay, no Aero, so the desktop looks like crap. How innovative!
The only difference really is just the desktop looks, the controls are useless in the same way as in the colouring book for five years old default style.
I also thought to update graphic drivers, opened AMD web from this new highly optimized IE11, and the page refused to render properly.
Then I shut the whole thing down and promised myself not to touch this again to keep myself sane.

It was worth getting first hand experience though. I can finally tell people to stay the hell away from this abomination of an OS without feeling bad for parroting things I read on the internets instead of experiencing them myself.

I have not used 8.1, but one of those little squares should say "Desktop" if Microsoft didn't change that from 8. Hopefully, Microsoft also gave you a hint to use the corners after signing in and first configuring your accout. Shame on them if they didn't keep that brief tutorial from 8. Shame on you if they did keep it.

On the desktop, accessing Control Panel involves moving the mouse all the way to the right and two clicks(Settings--> Control Panel); accessing Control Panel involes moving the mouse to the start button, click the start button, move the mouse up and to the right, and then click control panel). Since it is 8.1, right-clicking the Start button also gives you access to Event Viewer, Power Options, and a few other categories without even going through the Control Panel. Or just start TYPING in the start screen and that auto-search feature that is still there will direct you to the app you want.

Shutdown is also ridiculously simple. The charm bar's settings menu gets you there fast enough, and 8.1 has right-clicking the start button as the alternative(that was not on 8).

 

[lxskllr]

Me too. If custummers order a desktop or a laptop I'ld tell them............only with Win8.1, otherwise go somewhere else. 7 is history........gone.

I recommend, and give greater support to GNU/Linux. I'd also give other options, with XP having no support by me, and 8.1 being my recommended choice for a Windows option.

 

[Matt1970]

Me too. If custummers order a desktop or a laptop I'ld tell them............only with Win8.1, otherwise go somewhere else. 7 is history........gone.

Glad to see you are giving your customers what they want.

 

[taq8ojh]

Glad to see you are giving your customers what they want.

lmao
Knowing better what someone else wants, you can't beat that.

 

[RandomFool]

lmao
Knowing better what someone else wants, you can't beat that.

I'd argue that most people who care or know enough to want a specific operating system are probably capable of installing it themselves.