Not the ACORN I knew...

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Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The Obama campaign is now distancing itself from Acorn
:laugh: Come on now - who didn't see this coming? It seems at every turn there is another associate or organization that BHO has to distance himself from and/or suggest they weren't what he thought they were... and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country? An abysmally pathetic judge of character is BHO.

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....

Compared to a Man who can't even run a Campaign?
 

JJChicken

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The Obama campaign is now distancing itself from Acorn
:laugh: Come on now - who didn't see this coming? It seems at every turn there is another associate or organization that BHO has to distance himself from and/or suggest they weren't what he thought they were... and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country? An abysmally pathetic judge of character is BHO.

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....

I couldn't agree with you more.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The Obama campaign is now distancing itself from Acorn
:laugh: Come on now - who didn't see this coming? It seems at every turn there is another associate or organization that BHO has to distance himself from and/or suggest they weren't what he thought they were... and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country? An abysmally pathetic judge of character is BHO.

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....

Come on dont you get it? When he distances himself it is a sign he is a great leader because he recognizes a bad apple when he tastes it.
 

Mani

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ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Yes an organization with a history of voter registration fraud that Obama distances himself from. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Yes an organization with a history of voter registration fraud that Obama distances himself from. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
Shows sound judgment to me. Now on the other hand there's McCain who's judgment has been shown to be extremely suspect of late.
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Yes an organization with a history of voter registration fraud that Obama distances himself from. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
Shows sound judgment to me. Now on the other hand there's McCain who's judgment has been shown to be extremely suspect of late.

2 posts. 2 deflections to McCain. Hmm.... shouldn't you know you need to stay on topic?....



 

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The Obama campaign is now distancing itself from Acorn
:laugh: Come on now - who didn't see this coming? It seems at every turn there is another associate or organization that BHO has to distance himself from and/or suggest they weren't what he thought they were... and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country? An abysmally pathetic judge of character is BHO.

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....

Come on dont you get it? When he distances himself it is a sign he is a great leader because he recognizes a bad apple when he tastes it.

Too bad he bought almost a million dollars worth of that rotten apple(acorn). And too bad us tax payers have to fund these rotten apples(acorns).
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The Obama campaign is now distancing itself from Acorn
:laugh: Come on now - who didn't see this coming? It seems at every turn there is another associate or organization that BHO has to distance himself from and/or suggest they weren't what he thought they were... and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country? An abysmally pathetic judge of character is BHO.

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....
From your link:
At the same time, officials said, some 5 percent, or 3,650, of the 73,000 total registration cards turned in by ACORN in the Cleveland area from its Project Vote initiative to sign up low-income voters were "questionable," Platten said.
Wow, 5% are registering using false info in Ohio. Who cares? Why are people so up in arms over something so stupidly small? Anyone, including Republicans, could have faked 3,650 applications and put ACORN's name on it. I could have submitted applications for Ronald McDonald, listed my local McDonald's as the address, and signed it "ACORN". Then it would make the news because Paris Hilton or Britney Spears also make the news every day. ACORN is a non-issue that the GOP is trying to turn into propaganda because they're losing the election in every national poll.

 

fleshconsumed

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You can't really blame him after the flag pin issue. People will make mountain hill out of a mole, or in this case will blame by association, and republican campaign is happy to provide the dirt, no matter if it actually is relevant or not.
 

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Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

I thought Ayers was the biggest much ado about nothing? Or was it Wright?

The same people who cried about Cindy McCain's dress are trying to convince us that ACORN is the emptiest argument this cycle? Sorry. Don't think so.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Yes an organization with a history of voter registration fraud that Obama distances himself from. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
Shows sound judgment to me. Now on the other hand there's McCain who's judgment has been shown to be extremely suspect of late.

2 posts. 2 deflections to McCain. Hmm.... shouldn't you know you need to stay on topic?....
LOL. I said it sounded like good judgment on Obama's part to distance himself from this and compared it to McCain's poor judgment of late as those are the two choices we have. If you don't like that the only thing I can say is tough shit.

 

351Cleveland

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The Obama campaign is now distancing itself from Acorn
:laugh: Come on now - who didn't see this coming? It seems at every turn there is another associate or organization that BHO has to distance himself from and/or suggest they weren't what he thought they were... and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country? An abysmally pathetic judge of character is BHO.

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....

Come on dont you get it? When he distances himself it is a sign he is a great leader because he recognizes a bad apple when he tastes it.

Come on, dont you get it either? He doesnt recognize a bad apple until the press tells him that it is a bad apple. Why is it he only distances himself from these controversial characters AFTER it becomes painfully obvious to everyone else that these characters are bad apples? 20 years in the church, and it took the press to point out that Wright was a bit off the deep end (being generous and polite)? How many ACORN fraud stories and convictions, and it takes THIS for him to START distancing himself from them? Bill Ayers? Father Flakey?

You may not like it nor agree, but Senator Obama has surrounded himself with radicals and "bad apples." He is distancing himself now for purely political reasons. Read his books... he agrees with these people on their ideals. He just cant afford the bad image at this point.

Everyone knows these kinds of people right? I dont. I have met them and chose not to consort with those types of people (radicals on either side of the fence). I dont call them friends, associate with them, listen to them in church for 20 years, use their political contacts to launch my political career, represent them as a lawyer, etc.

 

nageov3t

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Obama's disassociating himself from something the moment the connection becomes politically inconvenient? say it ain't so, joe.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: 351Cleveland
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The Obama campaign is now distancing itself from Acorn
:laugh: Come on now - who didn't see this coming? It seems at every turn there is another associate or organization that BHO has to distance himself from and/or suggest they weren't what he thought they were... and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country? An abysmally pathetic judge of character is BHO.

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....

Come on dont you get it? When he distances himself it is a sign he is a great leader because he recognizes a bad apple when he tastes it.

Come on, dont you get it either? He doesnt recognize a bad apple until the press tells him that it is a bad apple. Why is it he only distances himself from these controversial characters AFTER it becomes painfully obvious to everyone else that these characters are bad apples? 20 years in the church, and it took the press to point out that Wright was a bit off the deep end (being generous and polite)? How many ACORN fraud stories and convictions, and it takes THIS for him to START distancing himself from them? Bill Ayers? Father Flakey?

You may not like it nor agree, but Senator Obama has surrounded himself with radicals and "bad apples." He is distancing himself now for purely political reasons. Read his books... he agrees with these people on their ideals. He just cant afford the bad image at this point.

Everyone knows these kinds of people right? I dont. I have met them and chose not to consort with those types of people (radicals on either side of the fence). I dont call them friends, associate with them, listen to them in church for 20 years, use their political contacts to launch my political career, represent them as a lawyer, etc.

My response was sarcasm. Ill have to start adding the tag because it doesnt come across very well.
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Yes an organization with a history of voter registration fraud that Obama distances himself from. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
Shows sound judgment to me. Now on the other hand there's McCain who's judgment has been shown to be extremely suspect of late.

2 posts. 2 deflections to McCain. Hmm.... shouldn't you know you need to stay on topic?....
LOL. I said it sounded like good judgment on Obama's part to distance himself from this and compared it to McCain's poor judgment of late as those are the two choices we have. If you don't like that the only thing I can say is tough shit.

So you think it's good judgement to distance AFTER it became a political hot potato? Sorry, but good judgement would have been to never get involved, never pay them almost a million dollars of your campaign money, repudiate their tactics concerning voter fraud. Yeah... he has good judgement... :roll:
 

Mani

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

I thought Ayers was the biggest much ado about nothing? Or was it Wright?

The same people who cried about Cindy McCain's dress are trying to convince us that ACORN is the emptiest argument this cycle? Sorry. Don't think so.

Cindy McCain's dress made the news for all of a day - probably about as long as Obama's "presidential seal" lasted. The right has been whining and b*tching about ACORN going on a week already with no end in sight. In fact, ACORN has become their rallying cry - it's pathetic that they feel so threatened by a bunch of grassroots community organizers with loose organizational control (thus the bogus registrations) and no money.

At the end of the day, if you get some people off the street and offer to pay them for registering a certain number of people, they are going to fudge registrations to get their paycheck. It's not some shadowy conspiracy to rig the election like the tin foil hat brigade on the right is making it seem.
 

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: 351Cleveland
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The Obama campaign is now distancing itself from Acorn
:laugh: Come on now - who didn't see this coming? It seems at every turn there is another associate or organization that BHO has to distance himself from and/or suggest they weren't what he thought they were... and still some of you want a person like that to lead our country? An abysmally pathetic judge of character is BHO.

Since some of you still think it isn't "fraud" until someone actually votes....

Come on dont you get it? When he distances himself it is a sign he is a great leader because he recognizes a bad apple when he tastes it.

Come on, dont you get it either? He doesnt recognize a bad apple until the press tells him that it is a bad apple. Why is it he only distances himself from these controversial characters AFTER it becomes painfully obvious to everyone else that these characters are bad apples? 20 years in the church, and it took the press to point out that Wright was a bit off the deep end (being generous and polite)? How many ACORN fraud stories and convictions, and it takes THIS for him to START distancing himself from them? Bill Ayers? Father Flakey?

You may not like it nor agree, but Senator Obama has surrounded himself with radicals and "bad apples." He is distancing himself now for purely political reasons. Read his books... he agrees with these people on their ideals. He just cant afford the bad image at this point.

Everyone knows these kinds of people right? I dont. I have met them and chose not to consort with those types of people (radicals on either side of the fence). I dont call them friends, associate with them, listen to them in church for 20 years, use their political contacts to launch my political career, represent them as a lawyer, etc.

My response was sarcasm. Ill have to start adding the tag because it doesnt come across very well.

I got it. :D I thought it played well.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Yes an organization with a history of voter registration fraud that Obama distances himself from. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
Shows sound judgment to me. Now on the other hand there's McCain who's judgment has been shown to be extremely suspect of late.

2 posts. 2 deflections to McCain. Hmm.... shouldn't you know you need to stay on topic?....
LOL. I said it sounded like good judgment on Obama's part to distance himself from this and compared it to McCain's poor judgment of late as those are the two choices we have. If you don't like that the only thing I can say is tough shit.

So you think it's good judgement to distance AFTER it became a political hot potato? Sorry, but good judgement would have been to never get involved, never pay them almost a million dollars of your campaign money, repudiate their tactics concerning voter fraud. Yeah... he has good judgement... :roll:
So you are saying that that ACORN was corrupt from the get go and that it was obvious to Obama in his dealings with them? Do you have proof of this?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Mani
ACORN is the biggest much ado about nothing in campaign history. Gotta hand it to republicans though - they do a great job of using harsh criticism to deflect attention from their own much more heinous voter fraud activity.

Yes an organization with a history of voter registration fraud that Obama distances himself from. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
Shows sound judgment to me. Now on the other hand there's McCain who's judgment has been shown to be extremely suspect of late.

2 posts. 2 deflections to McCain. Hmm.... shouldn't you know you need to stay on topic?....
LOL. I said it sounded like good judgment on Obama's part to distance himself from this and compared it to McCain's poor judgment of late as those are the two choices we have. If you don't like that the only thing I can say is tough shit.

So you think it's good judgement to distance AFTER it became a political hot potato? Sorry, but good judgement would have been to never get involved, never pay them almost a million dollars of your campaign money, repudiate their tactics concerning voter fraud. Yeah... he has good judgement... :roll:
So you are saying that that ACORN was corrupt from the get go and that it was obvious to Obama in his dealings with them? Do you have proof of this?

The corruption/fraud isn't something brand new. It doesn't take a genius to figure out BHO should have ended his dealings with them LONG before running for President.
 

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Distance himself... yeah right... its just another ass saving move from him just like distancing himself from his pastor. guess what, he is going to get right back with them once the race is over. This is a guy who was half black and full Muslim at birth, was brought up by full white Christians, still somehow he felt an urge to go back to his "black roots" and started studying MLK :Q... well why was he not curious about Islam ????
He is an opportunist SOB his being in the legal profession should be a reason enough to know about his character - remember John Edward? I mean only people who are a disgrace to humanity can be a lawyer.
You think a swine like him will really disassociate himself with any such thing???