not profiling is F'ing stupid and a waste of resources

[actuarial]

basically all the measures we're taking are largely ineffective and easy to circumvent, providing a false sense of security to the public..
it's become just a giant waste of money and resources, being more of a nuisance than anything else.

If people were really concerned with their own safety they wouldn't drive cars.

They're only fine with increasing their safety (even if it really doesn't, but whatever) if it inconveniences someone else.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

I dont care if middle eastern muslims get butt hurt over being profiled. Patterns can be changed so maybe they should get to work on that instead of crying about it.

exactly.
we have to stop fucking caring about anyone's feelings, white, black, brown or yellow.

same thing to the arizona illegal mexican issue. hey short, brown spanish speaking guy. we're stopping you and checking for ID because you have the same physical traits as 30 million other illegal immigrants. we're not stopping whitey because they don't have a reputation for swimming over the atlantic.
if you're legal, show your license and be on your merry way.

officials need to grow balls and say fuck you, too fucking bad.

 

[MaxFusion16]

I think until a new pattern emerges you focus on the pattern at hand. Currently its the middle eastern muslims who seem to be the terrorist. So you profile them. Are all of them terrorists? No of course not, but stopping white granny and 50 year old asian man who have not shown a pattern of terrorism against the US is a waste of time. Until there is a pattern their, than leave them alone.

I dont care if middle eastern muslims get butt hurt over being profiled. Patterns can be changed so maybe they should get to work on that instead of crying about it.

so......you are always a step behind the terrorists.

 

[nublikescake]

Weren't the 9/11 hijackers dressed in western attire as opposed to traditional muslim attire?

This is why stereotyping doesn't work - if it's known what you're looking for, it's really easy to get around.

Shhh! Don't bring reason into this bigoted but informed discussion. 🙄 It looks like some people prefer to live in a police state.

 

[soulcougher73]

so......you are always a step behind the terrorists.

Nope. You adjust to the pattern accordingly. You cannot EVER stop an initial act of terrorism that is from a NEW pattern. So dont even try. But once a pattern is established you can now create a profile case. Man statistics really seem to fly over a lot of peoples heads. Are they not teaching common sense anymore?

 

[actuarial]

I think until a new pattern emerges you focus on the pattern at hand. Currently its the middle eastern muslims who seem to be the terrorist. So you profile them. Are all of them terrorists? No of course not, but stopping white granny and 50 year old asian man who have not shown a pattern of terrorism against the US is a waste of time. Until there is a pattern their, than leave them alone.

I dont care if middle eastern muslims get butt hurt over being profiled. Patterns can be changed so maybe they should get to work on that instead of crying about it.

You didn't focus on the pattern at hand though, you talked about a guy in muslim attire. That's not the pattern, and you wouldn't have screened the correct people in the most recent terror attempts.

The current 'pattern' is ridiculously hard to identify: and that's the point. If you look for a pattern it's easy to avoid it.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Should the white man be profiled to see if they are naked under their trench coat ready to expose himself to shocked onlookers?

See how stupid this sounds?

 

[Howard]

The guy in muslim attire is a lot more dangerous than your so called "thug" looking guy(and I'm sure you mean black guy)

I'm pretty sure black men have done more damage than Muslim men have.

 

[soulcougher73]

You didn't focus on the pattern at hand though, you talked about a guy in muslim attire. That's not the pattern, and you wouldn't have screened the correct people in the most recent terror attempts.

The current 'pattern' is ridiculously hard to identify: and that's the point. If you look for a pattern it's easy to avoid it.

I would just stop every middle eastern or muslim and screen them. If they have a problem with their kind blowing shit up than they should do something to change the pattern/behavior. Otherwise they will just have to deal with being profiled. Until its not middle eastern or muslim people doing it against the US. The pattern is ever changing. Gotta roll with the punches.

 

[soulcougher73]

Should the white man be profiled to see if they are naked under their trench coat ready to expose himself to shocked onlookers?

See how stupid this sounds?

No, because people dont die from that. Its just a silly incident.

 

[actuarial]

Nope. You adjust to the pattern accordingly. You cannot EVER stop an initial act of terrorism that is from a NEW pattern. So dont even try. But once a pattern is established you can now create a profile case. Man statistics really seem to fly over a lot of peoples heads. Are they not teaching common sense anymore?

That is the definition of always being one step behind. All you need to do is change your appearance for each attack and 'enjoy your flight sir'.

And yes you can stop an initial act of terrorism that is from a new pattern, it just requires treating everyone like a terrorist. Like I said before - you'd rather false security that inconveniences someone else than true security that inconveniences you.

 

[actuarial]

I would just stop every middle eastern or muslim and screen them. If they have a problem with their kind blowing shit up than they should do something to change the pattern/behavior. Otherwise they will just have to deal with being profiled. Until its not middle eastern or muslim people doing it against the US. The pattern is ever changing. Gotta roll with the punches.

Serious question: How do you identify a muslim?

 

[zoiks]

Yeah. How?
What are fucking moronic post. Attires represent cultural identity. Just because youdon't wear western clothing doesn't mean you're dangerous.
Id be more leery of a gun toting redneck with a full size american flag on the back of his raised pickup truck.

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[zoiks]

Id profile you for being a moron with a pea sized brain having the mental capacity to understand and comprehend other cultures and ways of life.
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[LTC8K6]

No, no, no!

Jessica Simpson looks like a terrorist:

Search everyone who looks like her...

 

[soulcougher73]

Serious question: How do you identify a muslim?

I think you guys are missing the point. Expected i suppose. You will not catch them all. That is a given. But if they are dressed in Muslim attire that is a good sign. If they are middle eastern back ground. That is another sign.

Can they switch up the pattern? Sure. But until we see a rash of 80 year old white grannies blowing shit up and spewing hate against the US. I think its pretty safe to not screen them.

 

[soulcougher73]

Yeah. How?
What are fucking moronic post. Attires represent cultural identity. Just because youdon't wear western clothing doesn't mean you're dangerous.
Id be more leery of a gun toting redneck with a full size american flag on the back of his raised pickup truck.

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I would be more leery of them as well if their was a rash of terrorism commited by them where a pattern can be found. That is regarding terrorism only. Maybe if i was a minority id also be leery of them for other reasons as well.

OMG you just profiled Rednecks..RACIST..Oh the Ironing in your post. You do realize you went against what you were just bashing me for correct?

 

[artikk]

Thing is if profiling was an acceptable way to inspect people in airports, then terrorists would start behaving/being someone that isn't usually considered a terrorist.

 

[nublikescake]

I would just stop every middle eastern or muslim and screen them. If they have a problem with their kind blowing shit up than they should do something to change the pattern/behavior. Otherwise they will just have to deal with being profiled. Until its not middle eastern or muslim people doing it against the US. The pattern is ever changing. Gotta roll with the punches.

How about not attacking Islamic countries in the first place and not supporting Israel unconditionally to the opposition of pretty much the entire world, not just the Muslim world? And no, 9/11 was NOT the start of this all. The U.S. has been playing foul with nations and peoples all over the world for a long time in order to advance its interests. The long established partisan role of the U.S. in the Israel/Palestine conflict is the single greatest factor that motivates Muslim terrorists. From Ramzi Yousef to OBL, it's the issue that fuels the vast majority of these terrorist acts.

Did that thought ever cross your mind?

But don't mind the above, go on spouting the bs that the Ministry of Truth feeds you.

 

[soulcougher73]

How about not attacking Islamic countries in the first place and not supporting Israel unconditionally to the opposition of pretty much the entire world, not just the Muslim world? And no, 9/11 was NOT the start of this all. The U.S. has been playing foul with nations and peoples all over the world for a long time in order to advance its interests. The long established partisan role of the U.S. in the Israel/Palestine conflict is the single greatest factor that motivates Muslim terrorists. From Ramzi Yousef to OBL, it's the issue that fuels the vast majority of these terrorist acts.

But don't mind the above, go on spouting the bs that the Ministry of Truth feeds you.

Did that thought ever cross your mind?

That is a totally different topic which i agree with you on. Unfortunatly im dealing with the dealt situation at hand. I agree we created the terrorism and hate from the middle east by interviening where we were not wanted.

But feel free to deflect from the topic at hand.

 

[Turin39789]

I think you guys are missing the point. Expected i suppose. You will not catch them all. That is a given. But if they are dressed in Muslim attire that is a good sign. If they are middle eastern back ground. That is another sign.

Can they switch up the pattern? Sure. But until we see a rash of 80 year old white grannies blowing shit up and spewing hate against the US. I think its pretty safe to not screen them.

If you only search the 'pattern' you are guaranteed not to catch them.

 

[slayer202]

The long established partisan role of the U.S. in the Israel/Palestine conflict is the single greatest factor that motivates Muslim terrorists. From Ramzi Yousef to OBL, it's the issue that fuels the vast majority of these terrorist acts.

that's a load of horse shit. You can make up whatever excuses you want, but the beliefs of islam are what causes the attacks. But keep on making excuses for the crazy people, that's nice of you

 

[soulcougher73]

Thing is if profiling was an acceptable way to inspect people in airports, then terrorists would start behaving/being someone that isn't usually considered a terrorist.

Well when the day comes that middle eastern people can make themselves look Japanesse or Russion or something you may have a point. Clothing attire is not a good profiler in and of itself. But nationality is a good one.

Are their white english muslims who may commit terrorists acts? Sure. Are they a super small example..you bet. 1 in a billion? Not really worth spending money and resources on.

Man so many of you fail at statistics and pattern recognition. My guess is you have all been PC'ified and want no one to get butt hurt. Unfortunatly the real world doesnt work like that.

 

[nublikescake]

That is a totally different topic which i agree with you on. Unfortunatly im dealing with the dealt situation at hand. I agree we created the terrorism and hate from the middle east by interviening where we were not wanted.

But feel free to deflect from the topic at hand.

It's not deflecting from the topic. The resources spent on treating the "symptoms" can be saved altogether or curtailed drastically if the root cause is treated, i.e. halting interference and policing of the world from a moral high horse.

 

[Engineer]

If statistics state that a certain group/race/etc. is more likely to commit a crime/terrorism, I say use the statistics instead of wasting resources and time.

The ole saying "It is what it is" comes to mind.