Not cool.

[XMan]

Come on mods, I can see banning the little troll, but posting his personal information seems a bit over the top, and potentially risky for Anand.
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K. R[edacted] has started at least eleven separate accounts on our forums since 2004, and he has been as malicious under every one of them.

I make no apologies for posting his personal information. If he doesn't like it, maybe it will discourage him from trying again, but knowing what POS he is, I doubt it will sink in.

Harvey
Senior AnandTech Moderator

Posting information for scammers in the FS/FT forum, but since when is neffing considered "malicious"? If it were a lot of the old-timers here wouldn't be here any longer.

Breaching the "fourth wall" of anonymity is a pretty serious step to take, and it seems to me that it was a pretty rashly made decision without much thought for potential consequences. What if, God forbid, some lunatic who happens to disagree with this individual's postings decides to track him down and do something stupid? What degree of responsibility should this community then take? Who's to say that future career consequences aren't possible when a prospective employer makes a cursory Google search?

I'm sure some of the people who disagreed with him are already considering trying to find out work or home personal contact information. And for what? Stupid posts on a message board? Really? Is this what we've come too? Folks like GuyUnderTheBridge drove me crazy but I never wished for them to be put into literal danger.

This is a drastic step, IMO, one that has never been broached before, even with some of the infamous events in AT "history". Were the people who ran off Wombat Woman "outed"? Did you out the people who used to pick on hzl_eyed_grl? Did you post Dennilfloss' personal information for all to see and mock when he perpetrated the cruelest of lies? NowhereMan made an ass of himself multiple times, and no one "outed" him.

Whatever the case may be, here is where I draw the line. This is Anand's wholly-owned domain and I must assume that what has hapened here is entirely with his approval. As such I can no longer in good conscience continue to associate with this community. Please delete my user account.

 

[olds]

They don't delete accounts. Just log out and don't log back in.

 

[seemingly random]

Promise?

Funny that the online light is lit and that you want your account deleted. You see the dichotomy, right?

You seem to have a need for lists. Maybe not posting here will be easier on you.

 

[UberNeuman]

Hey, Harvey - since you seem to be the master overlord of AT, and no one else has any input, hook me up with a E account, would ya?

HARVEY HARVEY HARVEY!!!

/xman lets his political feelings influence what any other troll can face....

Not 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 or 11 times before....

/misses the days of Nick Caputo....
//well, not really...

 

[sandorski]

Dude wasn't Nefing, he was returning after repeated Bannings. Perhaps he'll get the message that if he returns he'll be found out?

 

[DrPizza]

Breaching the "fourth wall" of anonymity

You are NOT anonymous on the internet. I'm not sure why people keep thinking that. You can do all you want to conceal your identity, but every where you go, you leave little tracks. 99.9% of people can be tracked down by anyone who really cares to bother. The other .1% are taking a LOT of steps to avoid detection of their actual identities. Most people aren't willing to take the effort to discover someone's true identity, but it's not really that hard to do.

Just the other night, some high school idiot, was here asking for help/ideas with the intention of carrying out disruptive (not that big of a deal), and *illegal* (big deal) acts in his high school. One moderator threatened to inform the idiot's school. Another member took it upon himself to track down who the kid was, using only clues from his 200-some posts here. It didn't take long. My own son, amused by the whole thing, tracked down & was viewing the fool's facebook page. You are NOT anonymous online.

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Breaching the "fourth wall" of anonymity

You are NOT anonymous on the internet. I'm not sure why people keep thinking that. You can do all you want to conceal your identity, but every where you go, you leave little tracks. 99.9% of people can be tracked down by anyone who really cares to bother. The other .1% are taking a LOT of steps to avoid detection of their actual identities. Most people aren't willing to take the effort to discover someone's true identity, but it's not really that hard to do.

Just the other night, some high school idiot, was here asking for help/ideas with the intention of carrying out disruptive (not that big of a deal), and *illegal* (big deal) acts in his high school. One moderator threatened to inform the idiot's school. Another member took it upon himself to track down who the kid was, using only clues from his 200-some posts here. It didn't take long. My own son, amused by the whole thing, tracked down & was viewing the fool's facebook page. You are NOT anonymous online.

I had a person badgering me one time so I did a little digging, found out he was in high school and called his home. His mother was none too happy about his online dealings and he hand wrote me an apology because his mom took away his PC. :laugh:

 

[olds]

Last Visited On: 6/11/2009 12:08:13 AM

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: Gillbot

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Breaching the "fourth wall" of anonymity

You are NOT anonymous on the internet. I'm not sure why people keep thinking that. You can do all you want to conceal your identity, but every where you go, you leave little tracks. 99.9% of people can be tracked down by anyone who really cares to bother. The other .1% are taking a LOT of steps to avoid detection of their actual identities. Most people aren't willing to take the effort to discover someone's true identity, but it's not really that hard to do.

Just the other night, some high school idiot, was here asking for help/ideas with the intention of carrying out disruptive (not that big of a deal), and *illegal* (big deal) acts in his high school. One moderator threatened to inform the idiot's school. Another member took it upon himself to track down who the kid was, using only clues from his 200-some posts here. It didn't take long. My own son, amused by the whole thing, tracked down & was viewing the fool's facebook page. You are NOT anonymous online.

I had a person badgering me one time so I did a little digging, found out he was in high school and called his home. His mother was none too happy about his online dealings and he hand wrote me an apology because his mom took away his PC. :laugh:

That is awesome.

Almost as awesome as that kid from last year that wanted help getting the laptop he stole form his school to work. One of the mods ended up phoning his mom; sadly I wonder what else happened to him.

 

[SickBeast]

I don't think I've ever seen an Elite Member rescind their membership before.

If the guy was really that bad, could they not have called up his ISP to complain? TBH IMO having his internet connection cut off would deter him more than having his identity revealed, plus that type of action opens up AT to litigation in several ways.

I can sympathize with the mods to a degree; this guy was obviously a complete PITA. Like I said, I think that the ISP is the answer rather than the authorities or revealing someone's identity like this.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
... plus that type of action opens up AT to litigation in several ways.
....

How so?


BTW, to all the whiners, this is not the first time this has been done. It's closer to the 100th.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: SickBeast
... plus that type of action opens up AT to litigation in several ways.
....

How so?


BTW, to all the whiners, this is not the first time this has been done. It's closer to the 100th.

Harassment, stalking, defamation of character, invasion of privacy.

As someone pointed out, if someone were to go and do something stupid to the person, AT could be held liable to some degree in all likelihood. It's like when the bartender gets sued when someone drives drunk and kills someone.

 

[polarbear6]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: SickBeast
... plus that type of action opens up AT to litigation in several ways.
....

How so?


BTW, to all the whiners, this is not the first time this has been done. It's closer to the 100th.

Harassment, stalking, defamation of character, invasion of privacy.

As someone pointed out, if someone were to go and do something stupid to the person, AT could be held liable to some degree in all likelihood. It's like when the bartender gets sued when someone drives drunk and kills someone.

Woow, was the personnal info given to a non-govt person/organization ?? or to a person who could possible do some damage to anyone with that info ??

In that case I want the personnal info of sick beast/zinfamous/anyone with a guerrilla DP.
Not that I can do anything with the info, but i wanna see.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: ganesh1
Woow, was the personnal info given to a non-govt person/organization ?? or to a person who could possible do some damage to anyone with that info ??

That's the impression I'm getting from the OP, however he has not linked us to a thread or directly stated this (although it is implied).

 

[seemingly random]

People who think they're anonymous (or safe from prying eyes) on the internet, phone, at a medical facility, social security records, etc. are delusional. I remember when we first installed email at work in the 80s. The guy who became the first email administrator was ready to quit initially because of the complaints about permissions not being restrictive enough on the server and people peeking at other's email. There were quite a few whiners in marketing upset that their gossip was revealed. It's real simple. Don't send or divulge anything that isn't ready for the world to see.

I don't recall XMan, but you would think that one might learn a bit about the procedures around here - like the fact that accounts aren't deleted. Makes one wonder what the elite title is referring to.

 

[SickBeast]

I don't think that elite status is in reference to one's knowledge of forum procedures.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I don't think that elite status is in reference to one's knowledge of forum procedures.

It's at least 30% of the written test and 10% of the oral interview.

 

[mugs]

It actually is cool when they do that. I've never seen them do it to someone who didn't deserve it.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I don't think that elite status is in reference to one's knowledge of forum procedures.

It's at least 30% of the written test and 10% of the oral interview.

You mean the mods talk to people? :Q

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I don't think that elite status is in reference to one's knowledge of forum procedures.

I would hope that elite status is bestowed on someone who, among other things, is observant and curious about his surroundings in general.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I don't think that elite status is in reference to one's knowledge of forum procedures.

I would hope that elite status is bestowed on someone who, among other things, is observant and curious about his surroundings in general.

I don't think that is a factor either TBH.

 

[polarbear6]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I don't think that elite status is in reference to one's knowledge of forum procedures.

It's at least 30% of the written test and 10% of the oral interview.

I don't know why do people give so much importance to ELITE status !!
you don't get extra powers and stuff .... right ??

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: ganesh1

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I don't think that elite status is in reference to one's knowledge of forum procedures.

It's at least 30% of the written test and 10% of the oral interview.

I don't know why do people give so much importance to ELITE status !!
you don't get extra powers and stuff .... right ??

We get our own private forum and all the kibble we can eat.

 

[polarbear6]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: ganesh1

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I don't think that elite status is in reference to one's knowledge of forum procedures.

It's at least 30% of the written test and 10% of the oral interview.

I don't know why do people give so much importance to ELITE status !!
you don't get extra powers and stuff .... right ??

We get our own private forum and all the kibble we can eat.

A private forum ... Whats that ??
a place where you can post stuff and no one can read them ?? just to increase your post counts ??

 

[allisolm]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: ganesh1
Woow, was the personnal info given to a non-govt person/organization ?? or to a person who could possible do some damage to anyone with that info ??

That's the impression I'm getting from the OP, however he has not linked us to a thread or directly stated this (although it is implied).

The information wasn't given to anyone, it was inserted into his sig and XMan has it in his OP 3 times that it was posted, not provided to any person or organization.

As Olds said, it has been done many times for repeat trolls of all kinds.
Just a few of the more recent ones: No20bama, southeast, Come Again, DataStuff and David Victorious.

It's a pity that Xman has his facts wrong, draws bad conclusions from them and then proceeds to take offense at his own erroneous assumptions.