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MotionMan

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As an iPhone 4 owner, I'm a bit pissed on how many features are being neglected simply because it's no longer the flagship. Still no Siri, and the new Maps are gimped.
In a Android phone, I would get the full Google Voice Assistant and every Google Maps and Navigation an in instant.
I'm done with Apple and hamfisted path to get you to upgrade when it's not necessary.

Does every Android phone get every new Android OS upgrade/update?

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MotionMan

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No they don't. They make excuses, rationalizations, offer alternatives to what's missing, and generally do the same things fanatics in general do: hide the negative and overstate the positive.

I recognize that no phone OS is perfect. There are aspects of Android that iOS does not have. However, there are some things about iOS I like better than Android. The things that are lacking from iOS or are in Adnroid are not, at this point, significant enough for me to switch to Android.

I don't understand why that is considered an incorrect way of decision-making.

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Does every Android phone get every new Android OS upgrade/update?

MotionMan

What good does having the latest os version do iOS users if they don't get any of it's new features?

Every Android phone can use the latest version of Google Navigation.
 

bearxor

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What good does having the latest os version do iOS users if they don't get any of it's new features?

Every Android phone can use the latest version of Google Navigation.

Phones within the past two years get just about every major new feature. I think the major exceptions have been FaceTime on the 3GS when the 4 came out and Siri on the 4 when the 4S came out. I'm sure there will be something on the 5 the 4S won't get.

I've had my 4 for two years now, so I'm just about as ready to move on as it gets. Right now, I'm in a holding pattern waiting to see what the 5 brings. I'm dangerously close this year to choosing something else, either WP or a S3 or maybe whatever the next Nexus brings this fall.

Every year I ride that fence a little closer, but every year I can't find ENOUGH to justify a switch. I kind of like the RAZR I'm carrying now, but there's still an awful lot about it I don't like, but it's in Gingerbread. Might reevaluate once the ICS update hits, but I've been using ICS on a TouchPad for a while now and it's not significantly better, UI-wise.
 

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Phones within the past two years get just about every major new feature. I think the major exceptions have been FaceTime on the 3GS when the 4 came out and Siri on the 4 when the 4S came out. I'm sure there will be something on the 5 the 4S won't get.

I've had my 4 for two years now, so I'm just about as ready to move on as it gets. Right now, I'm in a holding pattern waiting to see what the 5 brings. I'm dangerously close this year to choosing something else, either WP or a S3 or maybe whatever the next Nexus brings this fall.

Every year I ride that fence a little closer, but every year I can't find ENOUGH to justify a switch. I kind of like the RAZR I'm carrying now, but there's still an awful lot about it I don't like, but it's in Gingerbread. Might reevaluate once the ICS update hits, but I've been using ICS on a TouchPad for a while now and it's not significantly better, UI-wise.

The two most significant features in the last two iOS versions (Siri and Maps) won't work on the 3gs or 4, that isn't what I would call good support.
 

Ns1

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Everyone doesn't jailbreak or root their phone either. The point is that a series of phones exist for Android that always get the latest Android updates. No such phone exists for iOS.

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Pretty sure I'm gonna get everything up to iOS7 on my 4s.
 

Ns1

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We'll see.

kinda old, but if history serves us correct...

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getting updates less 1 or 2 features > not getting updates at all.
 

lothar

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But not everyone does that.
Not everyone does that, yes.
But the benefit is that there is a "choice".

Not everyone jailbreaks.
Not everyone roots.
Not everyone buys a new iPhone every year for the latest major feature that Apple locked out previous devices from.
Not everyone uses smart phones.
Not everyone rides a bicycle to work.

Do you have any point in your "But not everyone does that" statement at all?
Just because someone chooses not to do that does not invalidate the fact that it exists.
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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Not everyone does that, yes.
But the benefit is that there is a "choice".

Not everyone jailbreaks.
Not everyone roots.
Not everyone buys a new iPhone every year for the latest major feature that Apple locked out previous devices from.
Not everyone uses smart phones.
Not everyone rides a bicycle to work.

Do you have any point in your "But not everyone does that" statement at all?
Just because someone chooses not to do that does not invalidate the fact that it exists.

Pretty sure the majority of Android users do not upgrade nor do they have the "choice" of upgrading. Yes I'm talking about most users who buy their phones on subsidies at the store and sign a two year contract and don't get updated to the latest version of Android because of manufacturers and carriers.
 

poofyhairguy

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Pretty sure the majority of Android users do not upgrade nor do they have the "choice" of upgrading.

I am sure the majority of Android users don't know what ICS is, don't know that their phone is missing an upgrade, (and if it is like the SGS2) won't even know they have ICS if their phone does get upgraded.
 

Puddle Jumper

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kinda old, but if history serves us correct...

Android-Fragmentation-e1319828101881.png


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getting updates less 1 or 2 features > not getting updates at all.

Most of those phones are pre 2010, not exactly relevant these days.

Android doesn't tie apps like Maps or Navigation to the OS so you could make a case for the Galaxy S being better supported than the iPhone 4.
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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I am sure the majority of Android users don't know what ICS is, don't know that their phone is missing an upgrade, (and if it is like the SGS2) won't even know they have ICS if their phone does get upgraded.

And isn't that a problem? Even without the new features of every update, there are security updates and patches that are in there also. This is a huge problem that people don't need to be more vocal about.
 

jpeyton

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iOS 6 is Apple playing catchup to ICS. The two problems being:

ICS came out in October 2011; iOS 6 is still unreleased.

Google's development cycles are severely faster than anything Apple is capable of.
 

Dominato3r

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kinda old, but if history serves us correct...

Android-Fragmentation-e1319828101881.png


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getting updates less 1 or 2 features > not getting updates at all.

One of the features of iOS4 was that you could change your wallpaper. My iPod Touch got iOS4 but it was a butchered version, that lacked the ability to change the wallpaper, among other things I can't remember.

So saying that you have "iOSX" doesn't really go that far if your lacking features ala navigation etc.
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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iOS 6 is Apple playing catchup to ICS. The two problems being:

ICS came out in October 2011; iOS 6 is still unreleased.

Google's development cycles are severely faster than anything Apple is capable of.

Or maybe it's at the right speed to keep developers moving but not too fast to leave developers behind.

Plus this yearly development cycle makes it easy for developers to know when the next OS version is supposed to come out.
 
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