Not a troll/flame: Android fans - Now what is missing?

[QueBert]

XBMC is only available if you jailbreak. And an Android port might be coming sooner than you think with devices such as this getting popular in the XBMC community:

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/a-74-micro-pc-mk802-runs-android-40-and-linux/259644-11.html

Plus I can take a stock SGS2, install Dice Player on it (no root or anything fancy), and play every file iOS XBMC can play (and more).

So you're agreeing that I can get it on iOS but not Android. Also XBMC's MUCH more than a video player, comparing Dice Player to it's like comparing a mobile OS to Windows 7.

 

[Ns1]

XBMC is only available if you jailbreak.

if rooting is fair play to these discussions then so is jailbreaking.

ref: can't get ICS unless you root

 

[Zaap]

So is there anything like DicePlayer on iOS? IE: doesn't require root or jailbreak, plays networked media files, doesn't require a server running on the remote machine? (I'd imagine there must be).

If the end result/basic function is the same, why do I give a flying rip what the name of the app is?

These discussions end up getting so weirdly nitpicky once someone's e-wiener has been stepped on instead of just comparing basic functions and using just facts rather than team-sport emo raving.

 

[Binky]

if rooting is fair play to these discussions then so is jailbreaking.

ref: can't get ICS unless you root

Yes, but just typing "jailbreak" makes you sound like a socialite tard.

Not relevant, maybe, but true.

 

[QueBert]

if rooting is fair play to these discussions then so is jailbreaking.

ref: can't get ICS unless you root

What I've learned on here is Jailbreaking & Rooting couldn't be more different. And of the 2 only Jailbreaking's considered a negative. Apparently, iOS dudes jailbreak because they HAVE TO. Where as Android dudes root because they want to.

 

[AstroManLuca]

What I've learned on here is Jailbreaking & Rooting couldn't be more different. And of the 2 only Jailbreaking's considered a negative. Apparently, iOS dudes jailbreak because they HAVE TO. Where as Android dudes root because they want to.

Wait, isn't iOS 5 un-jailbreak-able? I thought I remembered hearing that but maybe that's outdated.

 

[psych2]

Wait, isn't iOS 5 un-jailbreak-able? I thought I remembered hearing that but maybe that's outdated.

Lol that would suck for iOS7, Apple uses the jailbreak community as beta testers for new features after all (e.g. notification shade)

 

[AstroManLuca]

Yeah, that can't be right. I guess sometimes Apple pushes out an update that temporarily breaks it but the dev community always gets it back.

 

[Aikouka]

iOS 5 has an untethered jailbreak.

 

[poofyhairguy]

So you're agreeing that I can get it on iOS but not Android.

Yes, via jailbreak.

Also XBMC's MUCH more than a video player, comparing Dice Player to it's like comparing a mobile OS to Windows 7.

I know what XBMC is, I am very involved in that community and I have ran it on the iPad 2 since its first untethered jailbreak hit. What I specifically mentioned is playing a mkv file, which either XBMC or Dice Player can do. The difference is Dice Player doesn't require rooting or jail-breaking.

Apparently, iOS dudes jailbreak because they HAVE TO. Where as Android dudes root because they want to.

iOS "dudes" do have to jailbreak if they want to play a mkv file stored on the device, or heck just to have a file manager to browse in their file system to a mkv file to play. An Android doing either doesn't require rooting or ROMing.

 

[foghorn67]

This is not intended as a troll or flame, though I can see it happening quickly and the thread being locked. This is a serious question that I would like serious and thoughtful answers to:

Android fans, with the impending release of iOS 6, now what is missing from iOS vs. Android (other than "openness")?

For reference:

92 New Features in Apple's iOS 6

Top 10 iOS 6 features

iOS 6 Features You Might Have Missed

40 iOS 6 Features You’ll Actually Care About

MotionMan

As an iPhone 4 owner, I'm a bit pissed on how many features are being neglected simply because it's no longer the flagship. Still no Siri, and the new Maps are gimped.
In a Android phone, I would get the full Google Voice Assistant and every Google Maps and Navigation an in instant.
I'm done with Apple and hamfisted path to get you to upgrade when it's not necessary.

 

[QueBert]

Yes, via jailbreak.



I know what XBMC is, I am very involved in that community and I have ran it on the iPad 2 since its first untethered jailbreak hit. What I specifically mentioned is playing a mkv file, which either XBMC or Dice Player can do. The difference is Dice Player doesn't require rooting or jail-breaking.



iOS "dudes" do have to jailbreak if they want to play a mkv file stored on the device, or heck just to have a file manager to browse in their file system to a mkv file to play. An Android doing either doesn't require rooting or ROMing.

And even with Diceplayer the majority of Android handsets still won't play MKV's well. I have a Note and can attest that a lot of my MKV's are basically unwatchable on my dual core phone with 1gb of memory.

 

[bearxor]

iOS "dudes" do have to jailbreak if they want to play a mkv file stored on the device, or heck just to have a file manager to browse in their file system to a mkv file to play. An Android doing either doesn't require rooting or ROMing.

OPlayer can play MKV's. You can copy them over to the local device or you can play them off a samba share or FTP server. It wont play high bit-rates, but neither will a lot of Android devices. I have a RAZR here and playback of networked MKV's is about the same between it and an iPad 3.

 

[tommo123]

OMG, you 2 are such obvious trolls. how the hell a mod hasn't come in here and bitch slapped you both for baiting and trolling i'll never know

Any 'feature' of android that enables stealing should not be considered an advantage IMO.

This includes:
Emulators
Using flash to steal sports streams
Using torrents to steal TV episodes
.mkv files, which are generally stolen episodes/movies anyways

emulators aren't illegal, some roms are.
flash can only be used for that? wow. i never knew. better start legal action on adobe
torrents only work for tv shows? i never knew that either. there i thought companies used torrents legally to share content out to users.
mkv? seriously? it's a container, nothing else. like avi. just a container. the content can be any source from your own movies to a copy of your dvd/blu ray to a download. saying mkvs are all bad is as stupid as saying all .exe files are viruses D:

ergo legal uses for all which means no problem in phones having these features.

i like how you left out mp3s though and how the mighty apple didn't enable people to play their pirated music on their ipods etc etc etc. nice selective memory there. :thumbsup:

Made me think of this:

Arg! Ahoy matey!!!

MotionMan

troll troll troll your boat

 

[JustMe21]

While Android may not have an XBMC client, it does have a Plex client and I consider Plex to be superior to XBMC at this time because of the features it has like a Internet database lookup and the organization and information you get from it. It does look like XBMC is catching up, but Plex has the features I want right now and is an XBMC fork, so I will stick with it for the time being. It also has a client for iOS, Android, and Windows Phone 7 and server software for Mac, Windows, and Linux.

 

[bearxor]

Some of us don't want to install a server. Up until 2 months ago, the only computer I had on full-time was a 1.8ghz P4 Willy with 512MB of RAM that ran SABNZBd+ and SickBeard. I was not going to try to put Plex on that.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

And even with Diceplayer the majority of Android handsets still won't play MKV's well. I have a Note and can attest that a lot of my MKV's are basically unwatchable on my dual core phone with 1gb of memory.

Android phones based on Exynos, OMAP4, Krait, Tegra 3, and even Hummingbird can play mkv's just fine. Crapdragon and Tegra 2 suck at video playback but that isn't exactly a secert so if you bought a device based on them you should have expected to have issues.

 

[zsdersw]

Naah iOS people are different, where as Android people will say something like "Android can do EVERYTHING in the world!" iOS people will say something like "I don't need Widgets" lol they're very different. iOS people admit iOS's lacking, but even if they're lying they at least pretend like whatever it's lacking is something they don't care about. Android people never seem to be able to admit Android could possibly be lacking anything. Even Google's developers seem to have that attitude when I've contacted them about things that clearly need to be fixed.

No they don't. They make excuses, rationalizations, offer alternatives to what's missing, and generally do the same things fanatics in general do: hide the negative and overstate the positive.

 

[ponyo]

While Android may not have an XBMC client, it does have a Plex client and I consider Plex to be superior to XBMC at this time because of the features it has like a Internet database lookup and the organization and information you get from it. It does look like XBMC is catching up, but Plex has the features I want right now and is an XBMC fork, so I will stick with it for the time being. It also has a client for iOS, Android, and Windows Phone 7 and server software for Mac, Windows, and Linux.

Plex might be easier to use but it's no way superior to XBMC. Internet database lookup and the organization and information is all available on XBMC. You just have to know how to setup and use XBMC. Plex vs XBMC is sort of like iOS vs Android. Plex is simple to setup and use but XBMC is far more customizable and powerful. I use Plex on the GoogleTV because I have no better alternative. I'm not a big fan of having to install server software on my PC for Plex but it's something I'm willing to live with. On AppleTV where I have both XBMC and Plex, I only use XBMC. Maybe if I had a Mac computer I would use Plex but AppleTV and XBMC does everything I need for $99.

 

[QueBert]

Plex is more powerful than XBMC? If that wasn't sarcasm I'm done with this thread, holy moly I can't believe some of the shit I read on here lol.

 

[BUTCH1]

Yeah, the new OS made the screen bigger.



You can use a stylus with an iPhone.



Again, not something a new OS would be able to do.



Perhaps you need a refresher course on the difference between hardware and software?

MotionMan

Even though USB charging IS a hardware feature No hardware running IOS anything will have this capability so his point is valid...

 

[Kanalua]

iPhone generally are known to have the best keyboard all around.

Winnar!

The one thing, objectively, that I like about my current phone (GSM GNex) is the lack of bloatware right out of the box.

OS wise, I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure you could get the features you want on either OS (software, not hardware, obviously), either built in or third party.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Will iOS have alerts like Android does?

 

[Zaap]

Plex is more powerful than XBMC? If that wasn't sarcasm I'm done with this thread, holy moly I can't believe some of the shit I read on here lol.

No kidding, a lot of it yours.

So the one thing you came up with that your iPhone supposedly could do that Android couldn't turns out to be not the slam dunk you thought it was, so shift to "Well but your solution to the same non-existant problem isn't better than mine...!"

Sheesh.

 

[olds]

... ability to skip the joke that is iTunes ...

The single reason I won't use Apple.