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Newbian

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Newbian
Originally posted by: BrownTown
I'm really not even a little bit concerned and don't understand why the USA really gives a shit except for our stupid "world police" policy. We shiuld jsut let Japan and South Korea deal with this since they are the oens affected, not us.

I feel the same way even though I don't live on the west coast. ;)

But seriously if they want to be able to place their own satellites who are we to stop them?

There are enough countries with the ability to make nukes and have these types of missiles that I don't see why we should worry over another one.

:confused: You really think they're only plan is to put satellites into space?

Have they said anywhere exactly what kind of satellite it is they are putting up ? Weather, communication, test ?

Silly question but with how long they were forbidden from launching their own satellites who did they have to pay to use them or get them launched for them?
 
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Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Let's get past the missile thing and think about what NK is really thinking.

Kim Jong Il may be a controlling communist freak, but he's not a maniacal lunatic or a stupid dumbass West media make him out to be. He's not starting any war or aiming to kill people with missiles. He knows that'd be an utter suicide.

It's more of a political move. He's probably doing it to demand more attention, gain political foothold or test the new administration of US. It'll be interesting to see what NK does for the upcoming months.

You're right, the liberal western media is biased against KJI. LOL.
 

TruePaige

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Oh no, now we will bring them before the UN!

The UN is going to have a strongly worded talk with you, North Korea!
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Let's get past the missile thing and think about what NK is really thinking.

Kim Jong Il may be a controlling communist freak, but he's not a maniacal lunatic or a stupid dumbass West media make him out to be. He's not starting any war or aiming to kill people with missiles. He knows that'd be an utter suicide.

It's more of a political move. He's probably doing it to demand more attention, gain political foothold or test the new administration of US. It'll be interesting to see what NK does for the upcoming months.

You're right, the liberal western media is biased against KJI. LOL.

Yeah the thing that worries about KJI is that he is in really poor health. His second in command is 84 years old and in poor health. Deputy director is 74 and the admin department head is 71. All people that don't have much life left and may not care if they go out in a bang.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7720345.stm
 

Clair de Lune

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Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Let's get past the missile thing and think about what NK is really thinking.

Kim Jong Il may be a controlling communist freak, but he's not a maniacal lunatic or a stupid dumbass West media make him out to be. He's not starting any war or aiming to kill people with missiles. He knows that'd be an utter suicide.

It's more of a political move. He's probably doing it to demand more attention, gain political foothold or test the new administration of US. It'll be interesting to see what NK does for the upcoming months.

You're right, the liberal western media is biased against KJI. LOL.

Come on.

You really think he's some sort of a maniacal lunatic? If he was, NK wouldn't exist by now. It would've been obliterated long ago.

He's just a dictator who likes Johnny Walker, enjoys Bond Films (LOVES them) and likes the little cushy position he has. He has effectively brainwashed most of pedestrian civilians. And he sits on top of the pyramid just enjoying himself with tons of money, sleeps with whoever he wants, and does whatever he wants.

Yes, he's a sick fuck who's done atrocious things, but it's mostly mainly to keep the sheeple mind in line.

He's smart so he can continue to brainwash people, just so that ONE PERSON HIMSELF can enjoy this while rest of the country is in shithole.

No he's not some crazy maniacal lunatic that's gone batshit crazy. Any half-a-brain in KJI's shoes wouldn't ruin it by doing stupid shit like shooting a real missile and kill thousands of people in other countries.

Why? What does KJI have to gain? He doesn't give a shit about annexing SK. No, certainly not in 2009. Maybe 30 years ago. It's impossible now. He's knows that'd spark a global war that he'd lose. He knows modern China won't back him up.

He shot this missile just to demand more attention.
 

mozirry

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Kim Il plays the world like a game of poker, and typically he is always holding the right cards. Pretty sad, but it's true.
 

poohbear

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lol well good thing what the US did in Iraq has deterred other countries from being belligerent. Great example that set.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: poohbear
lol well good thing what the US did in Iraq has deterred other countries from being belligerent. Great example that set.

Yet Obama has changed exactly NOTHING with regards to Iraq.. Why is that? Typical blame America first response.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
He's just a dictator who likes Johnny Walker, enjoys Bond Films (LOVES them) and likes the little cushy position he has. He has effectively brainwashed most of pedestrian civilians. And he sits on top of the pyramid just enjoying himself with tons of money, sleeps with whoever he wants, and does whatever he wants.

Yes, he's a sick fuck who's done atrocious things, but it's mostly mainly to keep the sheeple mind in line.

Sounds right.

Trivia for you: John Kennedy was largely responsible for the James Bond phenomena taking off. He was a big fan of the books, and when that got out to the media, many people started reading them and the demand for the first movie was created. Kennedy invited Ian Fleming to the White house to discuss spying.
 

winnar111

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"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities.




Where's the hope and change! :laugh:
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: winnar111
"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities.




Where's the hope and change! :laugh:
Certainly not with you. There appears to be a black cloud around you wherever you go.
 

Lemon law

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Other than the fact that North Korea did not have to choose a path that took the missile over South Korea or Japan, its well within the rights of any Nation to test launch a missile. Especially if it can launch some sort of useful to society communications satellite or is some intermediate phase to acquiring that ability.

And wow, oh golly, oh gee, its hard to be that impressed when North Korea has finally gotten to the same place in technology we were in circa 1960. Somehow I doubt that this is some sort of kill it before it multiplies, there is not going to be a North Korean Missile under every bed even if some will try to make it seem like it.
 

microbial

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Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Time to write them another strongly worded letter

Dick and W would be working overtime to find some lame, toothless country to attack and invade pre-emptively right about now...
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: microbial
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Time to write them another strongly worded letter

Dick and W would be working overtime to find some lame, toothless country to attack and invade pre-emptively right about now...

you were one of the ones who was convinced they were going to attack Iran, weren't you?
 

microbial

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: microbial
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Time to write them another strongly worded letter

Dick and W would be working overtime to find some lame, toothless country to attack and invade pre-emptively right about now...

you were one of the ones who was convinced they were going to attack Iran, weren't you?

No, but that's because I realized that Iran is a different animal than Iraq. I have no doubt that the Bush administration would be wacky enough to do almost anything...they're defining talent was dumbassness,

Having said that-- during Bush I and II, Iran never found itself in the same decimated low-hanging fruit situation that Iraq was in.

But all that is a digression, the point I was trying to make (I admit, much too subtly) is: Let's see how BHO responds to NK. I'd be willing to bet he won't take his eye off the ball and do something completely stupid--like Dick and W.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: poohbear
lol well good thing what the US did in Iraq has deterred other countries from being belligerent. Great example that set.

:roll:


Sad....
 

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Originally posted by: winnar111
"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities.




Where's the hope and change! :laugh:

I never thought someone could be more annoyingly partisan than dmcowen... :roll:

At least you're not predicting natural disasters.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: piasabird
Too bad the launch was a failure.
The rocket went twice as far as anything previously.
It showed that NK to get to all of Aisa if desired. (Targetting is another issue).

 
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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
No, there really aren't a lot of countries with that capability.. and most of those who do have it are our friends.. or at least not threatening to wipe us off the face of the earth.

:laugh:

Besides that it was a failure, they don't have stockpiles of these missiles ready to go. They tested an experimental rocket, which at BEST it would take another 1-2 years before they had enough of them to do anything meaningful (from quantity wise).

That's of course assuming they are able to target something accurately, produce enough warheads, and have enough resources, etc to launch them. Could NK hit Alaska, Washington state, Oregon, or California? Maybe, but they could only get 1-2 missiles to launch anytime in the near future. Japan, China, Russia, and India are all the ones who should be worried.
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: piasabird
Too bad the launch was a failure.
The rocket went twice as far as anything previously.
It showed that NK to get to all of Aisa if desired. (Targetting is another issue).

Are you sure Japan didn't shoot it down?