Nookular...

[Bill Brasky]

What? were you sleeping through 8 years for Bush?

I came here to post this. Thank you. However, I really surprised by ATOT's collective pronunciation knowledge. I actually learned something in this thread.

 

[Proprioceptive]

So a journalist accidentally (you seem to think it was planned this way, but whatever) mispronounces nuclear and this is how bent out of shape you get over it? Seriously? I hardly think this is something to go nookular over...

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

yeah, they included it because it's a common mispronunciation. if someone says "nucular," the dictionary needs to show people that they mean "nuclear." it doesn't mean that it's the correct pronunciation.

at any rate, yes, it makes people look uneducated when they say it, but clinton says "nucular," too. it's gotta be a southern thing.

it still irks me, though.

lol. The dictionary doesn't include incorrect pronunciations. It's included because it IS an accepted pronunciation of nuclear. Just because that secondary pronunciation grates on the aural sensibilities of some people, that doesn't mean it's wrong.

If you want an example of a word that is most frequently mispronounced, I give you "ridiculous." Many people pronounce it "ruh-diculous" or "ree-diculous" when there is only one accepted pronounciation of the word - "reh-diculous." Don't see folks getting all bent out of shape over the many that mispronounce it, claiming they sound uneducated, though.

 

[NuclearNed]

I have nothing to say, but it seems appropriate that I post something, anything.

 

[zinfamous]

sounding like a dumbshit is how you gain trust among the masses. This isn't exactly a new concept.

In fact, this is pretty much why the field of Politics was established--a training regimen to help candidates appear like a relatively inoffensive, "normal," dumbass.

 

[zinfamous]

I have nothing to say, but it seems appropriate that I post something, anything.

maybe you should request a name change?

:hmm:

 

[Kadarin]

They probably do it deliberately because much of their customer base are the retards who pronounce it that way already.

 

[zinfamous]

lol. The dictionary doesn't include incorrect pronunciations. It's included because it IS an accepted pronunciation of nuclear. Just because that secondary pronunciation grates on the aural sensibilities of some people, that doesn't mean it's wrong.

If you want an example of a word that is most frequently mispronounced, I give you "ridiculous." Many people pronounce it "ruh-diculous" or "ree-diculous" when there is only one accepted pronounciation of the word - "reh-diculous." Don't see folks getting all bent out of shape over the many that mispronounce it, claiming they sound uneducated, though.

well, in all of the romance languages, and in many cases within King's English, the "i" is pronounced as "ee." "Reediculous" isn't bad, as long as you don't emphasize or drawl the first syllable.

Taken as a whole, the common American pronunciation of a soft "i" is actually uncommon.

 

[Proprioceptive]

They probably do it deliberately because much of their customer base are the retards who pronounce it that way already.

Here in Missouri, almost all of the political and news personalities pronounce Missouri as Missourah. So people pronounce it differently... who cares?

 

[Kev]

Jack Bauer says it that way and he's an American Hero.

If someone tried to correct him, he'd rip out and feed them their still-beating heart.

 

[eits]

lol. The dictionary doesn't include incorrect pronunciations. It's included because it IS an accepted pronunciation of nuclear. Just because that secondary pronunciation grates on the aural sensibilities of some people, that doesn't mean it's wrong.

If you want an example of a word that is most frequently mispronounced, I give you "ridiculous." Many people pronounce it "ruh-diculous" or "ree-diculous" when there is only one accepted pronounciation of the word - "reh-diculous." Don't see folks getting all bent out of shape over the many that mispronounce it, claiming they sound uneducated, though.

yeah, it does.

ridiculous/rediculous isn't a major mispronunciation.

nucular is a major mispronunciation.

it's like saying "particulear" or "refridgriator"

if enough people pronounce it incorrectly, the dictionary has to include it as way that a certain word is pronounced. they're not saying it's correct. they're just saying that some dumbasses don't know how to pronounce things properly and say it a different way.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

well, in all of the romance languages, and in many cases within King's English, the "i" is pronounced as "ee." "Reediculous" isn't bad, as long as you don't emphasize or drawl the first syllable.

Taken as a whole, the common American pronunciation of a soft "i" is actually uncommon.

Do you say "poleetics?"

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

yeah, it does.

ridiculous/rediculous isn't a major mispronunciation.

nucular is a major mispronunciation.

it's like saying "particulear" or "refridgriator"

if enough people pronounce it incorrectly, the dictionary has to include it as way that a certain word is pronounced. they're not saying it's correct. they're just saying that some dumbasses don't know how to pronounce things properly and say it a different way.

Well you'll have to forgive me if I take the word of the linguists at Merriam-Webster over yours. Surely you are aware that there are many words in the English language with alternate pronunciations and plenty that aren't pronounced as they are spelled?

The simple fact is that nucular is an accepted form and those making hay over that pronunciation, exclaiming it's incorrect, well, the joke's actually on them and they need to get over it. Nucular isn't my personal preference either but my own personal preference doesn't determine what is correct and what isn't.

 

[zinfamous]

Do you say "poleetics?"

of course not. As I stated, our commonly accepted pronunciation is not the norm.

As with most of English, particularly the US version, standard rules seem to be tossed at the window in certain instances.

 

[MJinZ]

I used to be extremely annoyed by the apparent idiots who couldn't spell or properly say medium sized words like Nuclear.

Now, however, I rationalize it by doing this:

Nuke = Nuclear Weapon

Nukular = Of or relating to a Nuclear Weapon.

Since most people say "Nukular" do so in reference to actual Nukes or the effects of Nukes, this has been working so far.

However, the first person who says Nukular Powerplant gets shot in the scrotum.

 

[zinfamous]

I used to be extremely annoyed by the apparent idiots who couldn't spell or properly say medium sized words like Nuclear.

Now, however, I rationalize it by doing this:

Nuke = Nuclear Weapon

Nukular = Of or relating to a Nuclear Weapon.

Since most people say "Nukular" do so in reference to actual Nukes or the effects of Nukes, this has been working so far.

However, the first person who says Nukular Powerplant gets shot in the scrotum.

:hmm:
I like your take on this

 

[eits]

Well you'll have to forgive me if I take the word of the linguists at Merriam-Webster over yours. Surely you are aware that there are many words in the English language with alternate pronunciations and plenty that aren't pronounced as they are spelled?

The simple fact is that nucular is an accepted form and those making hay over that pronunciation, exclaiming it's incorrect, well, the joke's actually on them and they need to get over it. Nucular isn't my personal preference either but my own personal preference doesn't determine what is correct and what isn't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucular

While most dictionaries do not list the pronunciation as correct, some recognize it because of its increased usage.[1]

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:[3]
"Though disapproved of by many, pronunciations ending in [kjə.lə(&#633] have been found in widespread use among educated speakers, including scientists, lawyers, professors, congressmen, United States cabinet members, and at least two United States presidents and one vice president. While most common in the United States, these pronunciations have also been heard from British and Canadian speakers."

Oxford English Dictionary:
"The colloquial pronunciation...has been criticized in usage guides since at least the mid-20th century, although it is now commonly given as a variant in modern dictionaries."

Oxford American Dictionary:
"A variant pronunciation...has been used by many, but is widely regarded as unacceptable."

American Heritage Dictionary:
"The pronunciation (noo'kyə-lər), which is generally considered incorrect, is an example of how a familiar phonological pattern can influence an unfamiliar one … [since] much more common is the similar sequence (-kyə-lər), which occurs in words like particular, circular, spectacular, and in many scientific words like molecular, ocular, and vascular."

see? it's incorrect.

/thread.

 

[tcsenter]

So according to Webster's if a government official or and educated person pronounces a word a certain way that becomes an acceptable pronunciation? Wtf?

No, it completely dispells the notion that such alternative pronunciations are the result of ignorance or a lack of education, when you have physicists pronouncing it the same way. e.g. Einstein was reported or rumored to pronounce it this way

A lot of educated Brits or Australians pronounce words ending in long or short "a" as "er", though its considered incorrect even in British or Australian dialects. e.g.

Georgier (Georgia)
Alabamer (Alabama)
Bacterier (bacteria)

WTF? Where do they get the "ERR" from? They must be stoopid!

I know it makes you feel superior, but it just shows that you're a little man who needs to feel superior to others.

 

[eits]

No, it completely dispells the notion that such alternative pronunciations are the result of ignorance or a lack of education, when you have physicists pronouncing it the same way. e.g. Einstein was reported or rumored to pronounce it this way

A lot of educated Brits or Australians pronounce words ending in long or short "a" as "er", though its considered incorrect even in British or Australian dialects. e.g.

Georgier (Georgia)
Alabamer (Alabama)
Bacterier (bacteria)

WTF? Where do they get the "ERR" from? They must be stoopid!

I know it makes you feel superior, but it just shows that you're a little man who needs to feel superior to others.

and vice versa... the "er" to "a" ending sounds...

america = americker...

as well as...

border = borda

 

[zinfamous]

No, it completely dispells the notion that such alternative pronunciations are the result of ignorance or a lack of education, when you have physicists pronouncing it the same way. e.g. Einstein was reported or rumored to pronounce it this way

A lot of educated Brits or Australians pronounce words ending in long or short "a" as "er", though its considered incorrect even in British or Australian dialects. e.g.

Georgier (Georgia)
Alabamer (Alabama)
Bacterier (bacteria)

WTF? Where do they get the "ERR" from? They must be stoopid!

I know it makes you feel superior, but it just shows that you're a little man who needs to feel superior to others.

yep.

It's been very well established that dialect is in no way an indicator of intelligence.

Wide acceptance of an improper pronunciation is also no validation that such mispronunciation is correct .

 

[Iron Woode]

and vice versa... the "er" to "a" ending sounds...

america = americker...

as well as...

border = borda

tomater

 

[hanoverphist]

Not only is it a weak rant, it's an uninformed one.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nuclear


Notice the second accepted pronunciation?

usage Though disapproved of by many, pronunciations ending in \-kyə-lər\ have been found in widespread use among educated speakers including scientists, lawyers, professors, congressmen, United States cabinet members, and at least two United States presidents and one vice president. While most common in the United States, these pronunciations have also been heard from British and Canadian speakers

existence doesnt prove correctness. just because irregardless is in the new dictionary doesnt make it a word either.

this rant is also worthless.

 

[MJinZ]

No, it completely dispells the notion that such alternative pronunciations are the result of ignorance or a lack of education, when you have physicists pronouncing it the same way. e.g. Einstein was reported or rumored to pronounce it this way

A lot of educated Brits or Australians pronounce words ending in long or short "a" as "er", though its considered incorrect even in British or Australian dialects. e.g.

Georgier (Georgia)
Alabamer (Alabama)
Bacterier (bacteria)

WTF? Where do they get the "ERR" from? They must be stoopid!

I know it makes you feel superior, but it just shows that you're a little man who needs to feel superior to others.

Um, educated as in backwoods homeschooled educated? Harvard educated?

Perhaps this thread is a shining example of how well educated an educated person really is.

 

[meltdown75]

i wish to pronounce it on a go-forward basis in whatever manner annoys you fuckers the most.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucular





see? it's incorrect.

/thread.

Don't be foolish. All the wiki article shows is that it's recognized as a variant by some and not by others.

"Ain't" was considered incorrect for a long time too. Common usage caused it to be accepted eventually. That's how it works with language, since language is not static but ever evolving. So stop imagining that the way YOU like it is the only way it should be.