NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

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mooncancook

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And almost all the cases are from the cult. The cult leader finally came out of hiding and members will now likely cooperate. If they can contain the cult, they can control the virus.
Need to send in the xcom squad to infiltrate the cults. You might even find brain-sucking alien i. There.
 

jpiniero

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That's a huge concern. People in retail and food service industries don't have paid leave most of the time. Sole proprietors often don't have employees to pay. Even worse....going to a hospital with covid-19, you get billed for all kinds of extra isolation bullshit I bet if you're self pay. (Insurance companies wouldn't stand for that)

That's why I kind of figure you won't see that much in Government Entities ordering actual shutdowns in the US.
 

K1052

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Stanford cancels all in person classes for the rest of the quarter, at least.
 

CZroe

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some are about 101-104 degrees!
Don't get too excited: Colleges are extra strict on rules of consent and these girls have had way too much Cor-

...

Nevermind. I promised myself I wouldn't participate in all these Corona Beer = Coronavirus "jokes" and I just screwed that up.
 
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myocardia

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Once you have antibodies for a particular strain, you should be functionality immune, and the body's T cells will eliminate any further encounters with that strain.

You should read about the varicella zoster virus, commonly called the chickenpox virus. Wikipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varicella_zoster_virus
In about 10–20% of cases, VZV reactivates later in life, producing a disease known as shingles or herpes zoster.

However, there are two known major strains at present. Exposure and immunity generated against one does not appear to apply to the other, and vice versa. Further complicating things is that in some persons the length of time from exposure to positive testing is very long, as well as the length from exposure to symptoms. And further the length of time from symptoms to full COVID-19 illness, as some individuals seem to float between very low to low grade infection for weeks, sometimes seeming to improve, after which time they can either get dramatically worse literally within hours, or with more fortunate luck, rapidly lose all traces of symptoms. Then there are further delays in waiting for a truly clean series of negative tests.

The path from exposure to infection to symptoms to recovery to clean/negative viral presence is a varied one. I think some misinformation has been out there that defies epidemiological logic. Ipso facto, if you have been infected and recover (via antibodies) from a specific strain of a virus, then further reinfection from an identical strain should be impossible. Confusion may be coming from individuals getting second infections from alternative strains, as well as those who suffer extremely lengthy incubation and light symptom periods before seeming to get sick again. One exposure, but a great length of time which may appear to be two separate incidents because this viral behavior is so odd compared to common experience people have with Cold/Flu.
Yeah, this is almost certainly what has been causing these "re-infections" aboard the Japanese cruise ship. Let's hope so!

All of this is not taking into account FURTHER mutagenic variants of this basic bug. What made 1918 Flu so unbelievably deadly was a more virulent variant that rampaged through continents starting around August of 1918. The initial Jan-July period was just a worse than usual seasonal flu situation before mutating into a more apocalyptic villain.
Yeah, my father's two oldest siblings died from that, I believe on its second time through the U.S. I will edit in the link to the awesome documentary I watched recently on youtube about it.[/QUOTE]
edit: This video is not for the faint of heart. It's actually scary, if you know anything about the spread of viruses/pandemics.
 
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CZroe

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Yeah, my father's two oldest siblings died from that [1918 Spanish Flu], I believe on its second time through the U.S. I will edit in the link to the awesome documentary I watched recently on youtube about it.
I like the Extra Credits 6-part series of short videos here:

They also made an update video regarding SARS-CoV-2:

It's all worth a watch for anyone interested in 1918 Spanish Flu or SARS2 (AKA COVID-19), for sure.
 

CZroe

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Lots of people in this thread are being ridiculous. Think, people. You remind me of the Chinese after the tsunami hit and Fukushima became a blighted city. Even though they had nothing to worry about (Japan was their sea wall) the Chinese started buying iodine salt and were actually fighting each other over basic supplies. Meanwhile. the Japanese were cool, calm, collected.

Why people here are rushing to buy water, toilet paper and other necessities is beyond me. No one is doing that here in NYC and we're the most vulnerable. Why? Because just like China, Korea, Japan and Europe, we have a high population density. People here rarely drive so we're packed like sardines in subways to get from A to B. Luckily, America is like Africa, a bunch of bantustans which makes a pandemic much harder to spread. The rest of the country has people much further spread out, making it very difficult for this virus to spread. And once someone in a certain community has it, thanks to our free press, everyone will know about it.

Look at the cases so far in this country. The worst hit has been a nursing home, a Jewish orthodox community and...a cruise ship. These are tight areas with the nursing home and cruise ship having a disproportionate amount of old people. Compare this with China, Korea, Italy, and Japan, countries with some of the oldest populations on earth living like sardines. The one exception here is Iran, which has a very young population (average age being 32). However, just as elsewhere, the virus appears to have caught fire with the very old (in this case, the powerful and elite), with the religious capital of Qom being the source of the epidemic there. Also, most of the population is in the far west, with everywhere else being sparsely populated.

The sporadic cases in California probably originated from healthcare workers not taking the necessary precautions.

IMHO, I think so long as the government and media do their job, this virus will be manageable here. We need to bar Koreans and Italians from entering this country. But I think politics will get in the way. I think the source of new cases will continue to come from abroad. I simply do not believe, given our population density, that the coronavirus will infect Americans with the same intensity as it has Iran, Italy, S. Korea, China and, to a lesser extent, Japan. We just need to make sure it doesn't hit our elderly communities, since they are the most vulnerable.
Umm, running out of toilet paper and needing to brave the sardine-packed subway to get more while the virus is peaking is exactly why some would buy toilet paper now. The population density there is a reason why someone might want to hole up.
 

eRacer

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According to the CDC, testing for coronavirus is not necessary for everyone with symptoms in Seattle area because it is too late to contain and everyone is at extremely high risk of getting it:

Evergreen Health

Can I be tested for COVID-19 at an EvergreenHealth Urgent Care or Clinic? In partnership with the CDC, we have updated our screening guidelines for COVID-19. As of March 3, 2020, we have halted performing nasopharyngeal testing in our outpatient clinics, including all five urgent care locations.

Here’s why:
The CDC has determined that COVID-19 is now endemic, meaning that the virus is now considered to be regularly found in our region amongst our population. Previously, only individuals who had previously known risk factors (including history of travel, exposure to a confirmed case), were considered high risk for acquiring the disease.


I certainly hope Seattle area residents have been made aware through public service announcements it is time to live like criminals under house arrest rather than free Americans.
 
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myocardia

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I like the Extra Credits 6-part series of short videos here:

They also made an update video regarding SARS-CoV-2:

It's all worth a watch for anyone interested in 1918 Spanish Flu or SARS2 (AKA COVID-19), for sure.
Awesome! Thanks. I'm headed to Home Depot, which is more than a 100 mile roundtrip from my house, but will watch them all this evening.
 

Dari

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Oct 25, 2002
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Iranian hostage taker dies from Coronavirus

Another high-ranking official in Iran has died from the coronavirus, according to state media.
Hossein Sheikholeslam, 68, the former Iranian ambassador to Syria, studied at the University of California at Berkely before becoming a leader of the radical Iranian students who stormed the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and took 52 American diplomats captive during the 444-day Iran hostage crisis.

Let's all pour one out for this one: Woe unto thee who calls evil good and good evil.

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pmv

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Lots of people in this thread are being ridiculous. Think, people. You remind me of the Chinese after the tsunami hit and Fukushima became a blighted city. Even though they had nothing to worry about (Japan was their sea wall) the Chinese started buying iodine salt and were actually fighting each other over basic supplies. Meanwhile. the Japanese were cool, calm, collected.

Why people here are rushing to buy water, toilet paper and other necessities is beyond me. No one is doing that here in NYC and we're the most vulnerable. Why? Because just like China, Korea, Japan and Europe, we have a high population density. People here rarely drive so we're packed like sardines in subways to get from A to B. Luckily, America is like Africa, a bunch of bantustans which makes a pandemic much harder to spread. The rest of the country has people much further spread out, making it very difficult for this virus to spread. And once someone in a certain community has it, thanks to our free press, everyone will know about it.

Look at the cases so far in this country. The worst hit has been a nursing home, a Jewish orthodox community and...a cruise ship. These are tight areas with the nursing home and cruise ship having a disproportionate amount of old people. Compare this with China, Korea, Italy, and Japan, countries with some of the oldest populations on earth living like sardines. The one exception here is Iran, which has a very young population (average age being 32). However, just as elsewhere, the virus appears to have caught fire with the very old (in this case, the powerful and elite), with the religious capital of Qom being the source of the epidemic there. Also, most of the population is in the far west, with everywhere else being sparsely populated.

The sporadic cases in California probably originated from healthcare workers not taking the necessary precautions.

IMHO, I think so long as the government and media do their job, this virus will be manageable here. We need to bar Koreans and Italians from entering this country. But I think politics will get in the way. I think the source of new cases will continue to come from abroad. I simply do not believe, given our population density, that the coronavirus will infect Americans with the same intensity as it has Iran, Italy, S. Korea, China and, to a lesser extent, Japan. We just need to make sure it doesn't hit our elderly communities, since they are the most vulnerable.

Hmmm, well, bully for you - but not everyone here is in the US!

Italy now has a per-capita death-rate from the virus nearly double that of China. It's now everywhere in that country and reported infections are increasing by more than 1000 a day. And it's now spreading widely in Germany and France.

It's pretty clearly about to go big here in the UK (whole bunch of cases within a couple of miles of me).

But if I run out of toilet paper, there's a stand with free newspapers not far away!

(I'm not using the Daily Mail though, I wouldn't want my arse to turn racist).
 

Red Squirrel

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This just gave me an idea. The Coronavirus drinking game. Take a sip every time there is a new case, drink a whole one every time someone dies from it.
 

CZroe

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Hmmm, well, bully for you - but not everyone here is in the US!

Italy now has a per-capita death-rate from the virus nearly double that of China. It's now everywhere in that country and reported infections are increasing by more than 1000 a day. And it's now spreading widely in Germany and France.

It's pretty clearly about to go big here in the UK (whole bunch of cases within a couple of miles of me).

But if I run out of toilet paper, there's a stand with free newspapers not far away!

(I'm not using the Daily Mail though, I wouldn't want my arse to turn racist).
"Free" doesn't mean it's any safer than going out for actual TP. ;)
 

PlanetJosh

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Sporting events on tv with no one in the stands is so weird. I'm watching live ski jumping and how strange no cheering and just bare concrete in the large seating area. Imagine what it's like for those of you who are actually at those events. Wait you can't get in even if you have a ticket or enough cash to buy one. And with US baseball spring training & regular season coming up in less than three weeks...
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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"South by southwest" I believe is what it stands for... Happens in Austin TX.

Hipster gathering festival, might as well call it a hipster version of hipster woodstock... But yeah, it's pretty long and lots of money around it typically.

that's only half of it. It's also a big convention for corporate whores and the trade industry--not just music and arts. It's also tech and...basically everything else.

It's massive.