No way! France speaks out against US war plan

[UltraQuiet]

People, do you want another war?

No

Because if you do than your currently safe ass behind your "o'clocked puter" @ ATOT will be taken away and drafted.

Bullsh!t we are no where near needing a draft, especially not to fight Iraq.

Guys think on a larger scale. If we invade Iraq, I don't think we'll find ourselves fighting only them and it won't last 3 days like with Afghanistan. Who the hell knows what Iraq has up its sleeves.

That last statement is exactly why we might have to fight. To limit what he has up his sleeve.

Iran will not standby while Iraq is being burried by USA again.

They won't? Why wouldn't they? Have Iran and Iraq suddenly become friends? You really don't know much about this do you?

You can expect huge riots in Pakistan and other muslim countries demanding their leaders to take action agains USA and its allies.

Happened last time too. So what.

Evry philosopher they had on TV after 09/11 last year said; "the next thing USA must do is go after Saddam Hussein and Iraq".

...and your point is?

Europeans rely more on negotiations rather than taking action first. There's nothing wrong with that. It's how they do business.

It's also how we do business in case you haven't noticed. How long did we wait and make demands in Afghanistan before we went in? How many shots have been fired in Iraq? There's plenty of talking going on and there's more to come. The concept of sabre-rattling really escapes you people doesn't it.

Or you prefer to "shoot first and ask questions later"?

No one has shot first, however what I do prefer is a leadership that understands that there is a time for talk and a time for action. The problem with your vaunted Euro's is that they sometimes don't know when it's time for action. How many times have they been happily chatting away while they were getting butt fscked? There has been plenty of talk, tough talk but talk and there will be plenty more. If the talking does no good then there will be action.

 

[JellyBaby]

Fox reported today that Iraq is within 6 months of a nuke.

Can you link me to that report? All I can find at Fox is this:

satellite photographs shows unexplained recent construction at Iraqi nuclear sites

.

 

[Lucky]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,62375,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,62262,00.html

 

[VFAA]

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

People, do you want another war?

No

Because if you do than your currently safe ass behind your "o'clocked puter" @ ATOT will be taken away and drafted.

Bullsh!t we are no where near needing a draft, especially not to fight Iraq.

Guys think on a larger scale. If we invade Iraq, I don't think we'll find ourselves fighting only them and it won't last 3 days like with Afghanistan. Who the hell knows what Iraq has up its sleeves.

That last statement is exactly why we might have to fight. To limit what he has up his sleeve.

Iran will not standby while Iraq is being burried by USA again.

They won't? Why wouldn't they? Have Iran and Iraq suddenly become friends? You really don't know much about this do you?

You can expect huge riots in Pakistan and other muslim countries demanding their leaders to take action agains USA and its allies.

Happened last time too. So what.

Evry philosopher they had on TV after 09/11 last year said; "the next thing USA must do is go after Saddam Hussein and Iraq".

...and your point is?

Europeans rely more on negotiations rather than taking action first. There's nothing wrong with that. It's how they do business.

It's also how we do business in case you haven't noticed. How long did we wait and make demands in Afghanistan before we went in? How many shots have been fired in Iraq? There's plenty of talking going on and there's more to come. The concept of sabre-rattling really escapes you people doesn't it.

Or you prefer to "shoot first and ask questions later"?

No one has shot first, however what I do prefer is a leadership that understands that there is a time for talk and a time for action. The problem with your vaunted Euro's is that they sometimes don't know when it's time for action. How many times have they been happily chatting away while they were getting butt fscked? There has been plenty of talk, tough talk but talk and there will be plenty more. If the talking does no good then there will be action.

What the hell are you gonna analyze my opinions? You gonna charge me on it too?

You think draft won't happen? How do you think WW3 will be fought? Nobody is that stupid to launch nukes to start a destruction of Earth as you can see it in the movies.

You can expect huge riots in Pakistan and other muslim countries demanding their leaders to take action agains USA and its allies.
Happened last time too. So what.

So this time, these leaders will take action against USA and its allies.

 

[sandorski]

charison: We seem to be in agreement on the Taliban situation.

Whether giving money to families of suicide bombers is "supporting terrorism" is an arguable point, since the terrorist is already dead. Perhaps the terrorist may feel more comfortable doing it knowing his family will get that support, other than that though the terrorist has gained no financial benefit. If that aid is encouraging more suicide bombers, I'd consider that as damning evidence of the plight of the Palestinian people, it takes someone at the end of their rope to surrender their life so their family can gain financially. Point #2 is not even close to justifying invasion, unless other evidence is available.

1 and 3 are a stalemate.

 

[UltraQuiet]

What the hell are you gonna analyze my opinions? You gonna charge me on it too?

You think draft won't happen? How do you think WW3 will be fought? Nobody is that stupid to launch nukes to start a destruction of Earth as you can see it in the movies.

Could you try that again? This time in English.

So this time, these leaders will take action against USA and its allies.

Right. Musharaf is gonna "take action" against the U.S.

Your obviously way out of your depth here.

 

[bmd]

Well done Dave . Sometimes it's funny to watch people getting picked apart.

 

[VFAA]

Could you try that again? This time in English.

Ok Mr. Smart guy, I'm not feeling myself today, but to be as short as possible - fsck you!

I don't appreciate being judged and criticized on my personal opinion about issues in Middle East. If I wanted your input on "my thoughts" I would've asked for it.

Get it? No? Than buzz off.

I know this is a forum and however I express my "thoughts" will be turned around, stuck up my arse and against me by people like you. But I thought it only applied to matters when people are expressing "facts" not their "opinions".

If America decides to attack Iran, we will respond. But we won't stay aside watching our brothers die in Iraq either.

From CNN, I beleive it was Iranian Foreign Relations Minister speaking or someone like that.

Point is, you're too shallow and skeptical. Anything can happen. Look at NY City last year and look at it now. Did you ever expect that to happen?

 

[UltraQuiet]

Ok Mr. Smart guy, I'm not feeling myself today, but to be as short as possible - fsck you!

Your not feeling good? That's your excuse for this non sensical bullsh!t. If that's the case you've been sick June 2001.

I don't appreciate being judged and criticized on my personal opinion about issues in Middle East. If I wanted your input on "my thoughts" I would've asked for it.
Get it? No? Than buzz off.

You post it here, you better be ready to defend it and have it criticized. You are obviously not ready for either. Might I suggest an AOL chatroom.

I know this is a forum and however I express my "thoughts" will be turned around, stuck up my arse and against me by people like you. But I thought it only applied to matters when people are expressing "facts" not their "opinions

I am happy to see that you are making a distinction between facts and your opinions. From what I have seen here they are certainly mutually exclusive.

Point is, you're too shallow and skeptical. Anything can happen. Look at NY City last year and look at it now. Did you ever expect that to happen?

I'm the one who is too shallow and skeptical? You're the one talking about WWIII, a draft and being attacked by Pakistan. The point is you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and you hate having your so called opinion, one which I'm sure you believe to be the gospel truth, shoved straight up your ass. Like I said before you are clearly out of your depth here, your breadth of knowledge in this topic is clearly lacking. Maybe the kiddies at AOL will be impressed with your "opinion". If not, I'm sure the "I'm sick" routine will work with them.

 

[nitrousninja]

I just read all six pages and my eyes hurt. I was wondering how some of you guys were getting 3,000+ posts here and now I know. BTW if any of you need any hydrogen I have access to 12,000 gallons of it.

 

[bmd]

If you post your opinion / thoughts in a thread like this, be ready to be flamed, yelled at, argued with, etc. Don't come here expecting people to just say "thanks for contributing your opinion on the matter!", people will try to reason with you and pick apart what you said. Where have you been since June 2001?

 

[VFAA]

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

Ok Mr. Smart guy, I'm not feeling myself today, but to be as short as possible - fsck you!

Your not feeling good? That's your excuse for this non sensical bullsh!t. If that's the case you've been sick June 2001.

I don't appreciate being judged and criticized on my personal opinion about issues in Middle East. If I wanted your input on "my thoughts" I would've asked for it. Get it? No? Than buzz off.

You post it here, you better be ready to defend it and have it criticized. You are obviously not ready for either. Might I suggest an AOL chatroom.

I know this is a forum and however I express my "thoughts" will be turned around, stuck up my arse and against me by people like you. But I thought it only applied to matters when people are expressing "facts" not their "opinions

I am happy to see that you are making a distinction between facts and your opinions. From what I have seen here they are certainly mutually exclusive.

Point is, you're too shallow and skeptical. Anything can happen. Look at NY City last year and look at it now. Did you ever expect that to happen?

I'm the one who is too shallow and skeptical? You're the one talking about WWIII, a draft and being attacked by Pakistan. The point is you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and you hate having your so called opinion, one which I'm sure you believe to be the gospel truth, shoved straight up your ass. Like I said before you are clearly out of your depth here, your breadth of knowledge in this topic is clearly lacking. Maybe the kiddies at AOL will be impressed with your "opinion". If not, I'm sure the "I'm sick" routine will work with them.

Dude, what?? Geeezus you really have time on your hands to assume all that sh!t? It's a forum! Where the hell did I say the USA will be attacked by Sharif? If I'm not mistaken you said that! Me talking about WW3? Well with your attitude to wreck the whole fscking Middle East, YES! From where can we assume WW3? Your sarcastic remarks about France? Maybe... I'm the only one speaking of WW3? Did you just jump the band wagon with this thread? There's 6 pages and at least 1 person speaking of WW3 on every page! Read the fscking thred. Good bye.

I just read all six pages and my eyes hurt. I was wondering how some of you guys were getting 3,000+ posts here and now I know. BTW if any of you need any hydrogen I have access to 12,000 gallons of it.

Right on man, I was wondering that myself.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Dude, what?? Geeezus you really have time on your hands to assume all that sh!t? It's a forum! Where the hell did I say the USA will be attacked by Sharif? If I'm not mistaken you said that![

Dudette let me refresh your memory--

You said,"You can expect huge riots in Pakistan and other muslim countries demanding their leaders to take action agains USA and its allies."
I said, "Happened last time too. So what."
You said, "So this time, these leaders will take action against USA and its allies."
Remember now. Good

Well with your attitude to wreck the whole fscking Middle East, YES!

Where did I say I wanted to wreck the middle east? I clearly said I didn't want a war.

Your sarcastic remarks about France?

What sarcastic remarks about France?

Did you just jump the band wagon with this thread? There's 6 pages and at least 1 person speaking of WW3! Read the fscking thred. Good bye.

No I've read every post and every ignorant thing you have said. I'm sorry you are incapable of transferring what you might be thinking into writing or that your so called opinions are baseless but I can only go by what you have written here. I know it stings to have your opinion picked apart but there is a remedy. Knowledge. Get some.

 

[VFAA]

Ohhh you said this; Ohhh I said that; Ohhh he said that other thing!

Drop the case you n00b.

Good bye;

 

[bmd]

Originally posted by: VFAA
Ohhh you said this; Ohhh I said that; Ohhh he said that other thing!

Drop the case you n00b.

Good bye;

Haha Dave I think you might as well drop it, VFAA is clearly the mature intelligent one here

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: bmd

Originally posted by: VFAA
Ohhh you said this; Ohhh I said that; Ohhh he said that other thing!

Drop the case you n00b.

Good bye;

Haha Dave I think you might as well drop it, VFAA is clearly the mature intelligent one here

Yeah, you're probably right. I was expecting way too much thinking that she might actually be able to back up her posts with a solid argument or some facts. I should probably feel bad for picking on a retard.

That n00b thing really hurt. I'll probably cry myself to sleep tonight.

 

[fatbaby]

Originally posted by: VFAA
Ohhh you said this; Ohhh I said that; Ohhh he said that other thing!

Drop the case you n00b.

Good bye;

ding ding we have a winner

 

[MadRat]

VFAA doesn't realize that most of what the Arabs say about helping each other is empty promises. The middle east is full of one resource right now and that is cowards. These cowards aren't just anybody - they are committing suicide by sacrificing themselves to kill Isrealis, Europeans, and Americans. Iraq is funding the families left behind by these damn suicide-cowards. The Saudis are funding the families left behind by these damn suicide-cowards. A majority of the middle east is supportive of both the families left behind by these damn suicide-cowards and the actions they perform. The truth is that the U.S. needs to take some sort of action to cut off the source of these cowards. If Europe stays idle on the issue then that is their own fault. Iraq is just a start of a far greater engagement. The entire middle east has to undergo a facelift for this madness to stop. Either get out of the way and let the people in charge use their scalpels or impede their progress and watch how they operate with more crude means, like a machete to do the same job. There will be no war if the confrontation is allowed to proceed.

 

[VFAA]

VFAA understands everything that's going on around the world, you can take my word for it.

What I don't understand is why every sentence I write in this thread is being quoted and analyzed. The best part of it all, is I'm screamed at to show proof of what I say. Now how can I do that while everything I said is my own frikken opinion! If you don't like what I think than it's OK. Just mind your business as you don't see me quoting like a crazy hypocrite and start calling for evidence to support your opinions.

On a side note, you people think I support the Middle East? No, I don't. They live in a 2D world based 2000 years ago and they don't seem to want to upgrade. That's fine by me. If they wanna milk goats for the rest of their lifes with Kalashnikovs on their shoulders than I let them be "there". When they come to my country, I expect them to lose all their issues with the western world and start a new life. I don't want them bringing their countries problems here.

90% of the world does not support USAs attacking Iraq. Me neither until I see solid proof. It's like the "smart" Dave said, Back up your statements with evidence. Has the USA shown any solid proof? No! 5 newly constructed buildings mean jack $hit (can you see through the buildings walls?).

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: VFAA
Ohhh you said this; Ohhh I said that; Ohhh he said that other thing!

Drop the case you n00b.

Good bye;

what a turd.

 

[VFAA]

Originally posted by: Lucky

Originally posted by: VFAA
Ohhh you said this; Ohhh I said that; Ohhh he said that other thing!

Drop the case you n00b.

Good bye;

what a turd.

Thank you, like wise

 

[shiner]

What I don't understand is why every sentence I write in this thread is being quoted and analyzed.

I suppose you expect everyone here to accept your word as the gospel. Sorry pal.....it's put up or shut up in here.

I expect them to lose all their issues with the western world and start a new life.

Ummm hmmm....how about you try and get those wannabe French in Quebec to straighten up first.

 

[VFAA]

Nah nah nah, see, this is where my dilema kicks in...

When we have a new thread starting, like this one, we'll have 10 first replies with people "just" expressing their opinion on the topic. The next 300 replies will be the idiots quoting them and the flame war begins.

See what I'm saying?

Ummm hmmm....how about you try and get those wannabe French in Quebec to straighten up first.

Do you live here? What do you know about our situation with the French in Quebec aside from CNN and Fox News? In short, it's fixed. But let me guess... You have a friend who has a friend who lives in Quebec who told his other friend about the crappy life he's having? Or another one, don't tell me your wife is Canadian :Q?

See how you people know little about us Canadians and our issues with the French in Quebec?

 

[shiner]

When we have a new thread starting, like this one, we'll have 10 first replies with people "just" expressing their opinion on the topic. The next 300 replies will be the idiots quoting them and the flame war begins.

See what I'm saying?

Yes, what you are saying is that you should be able to come in here and say anything you want and never be questioned on it. If anyone does have the nerve to question you they get labeled as idiots. It's all pretty clear to me.

 

[VFAA]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

When we have a new thread starting, like this one, we'll have 10 first replies with people "just" expressing their opinion on the topic. The next 300 replies will be the idiots quoting them and the flame war begins.

See what I'm saying?

Yes, what you are saying is that you should be able to come in here and say anything you want and never be questioned on it. If anyone does have the nerve to question you they get labeled as idiots. It's all pretty clear to me.

Yes and I'd like to write my 10 cents of my worthless opinion and hope it be rolled unnoticed. Though that hasn't worked out for me pretty good this time.

EDIT: and sorry I gotta be clear about the 300 idiots flaming... I haven't started responding in this thread by quoting others, I simply posted my opinion on the Middle East issue.
EDIT#2: and I was called an idiot after I posted my opinion on the Middle East issue! And my opinion is simply this: Don't start a war with Iraq.