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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Injury
Yeah... go home and sleep. If it's not in your contract to stay through the night to finish it then tell your company to f**k off.
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To which his company will reply "right back at you! Good luck finding another job!"

Where do you work that you negotiated a contract that details every aspect of your job? 😕
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Exactly my point... it's entirely unreasonable for them to think it's fair or even HEALTHY to work literally 24/7 and if he thinks he needs to get some sleep he should just go home for a little bit and sleep. Even when you are on salary you are being paid for what is expected to be in the range of 40-50 hours of work and if they aren't going to compensate him or anything for working double that, then what incentive does he have for doing this?

I'd rather be fired for not working for a literal week than putting my personal health in danger. At a minimum, you'd have an easy time winning a lawsuit against the company.
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Exactly.

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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Injury
Yeah... go home and sleep. If it's not in your contract to stay through the night to finish it then tell your company to f**k off.
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To which his company will reply "right back at you! Good luck finding another job!"

Where do you work that you negotiated a contract that details every aspect of your job? 😕
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Exactly my point... it's entirely unreasonable for them to think it's fair or even HEALTHY to work literally 24/7 and if he thinks he needs to get some sleep he should just go home for a little bit and sleep. Even when you are on salary you are being paid for what is expected to be in the range of 40-50 hours of work and if they aren't going to compensate him or anything for working double that, then what incentive does he have for doing this?

I'd rather be fired for not working for a literal week than putting my personal health in danger. At a minimum, you'd have an easy time winning a lawsuit against the company.
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-We can go home if we finish it soon
-I can't ask for comp time/ot, other team members won't do it.
-I can't quit because salary is too good.


thnx for all your tips, I really appreciate it.
 
i would recommend a 30 minute nap every 4 hours, it helps a lot. also, if you have (legal) access to some drugs such as provigil, adoral, etc. that would help. Whenever I code I usually get on streaks where i just bang away at it for a few hours, then i get stuck. whenever that happens i take a 20-30minute break (nap) and come back to it and figure it out easily.
 
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Injury
Yeah... go home and sleep. If it's not in your contract to stay through the night to finish it then tell your company to f**k off.
Click to expand...

To which his company will reply "right back at you! Good luck finding another job!"

Where do you work that you negotiated a contract that details every aspect of your job? 😕
Click to expand...

Exactly my point... it's entirely unreasonable for them to think it's fair or even HEALTHY to work literally 24/7 and if he thinks he needs to get some sleep he should just go home for a little bit and sleep. Even when you are on salary you are being paid for what is expected to be in the range of 40-50 hours of work and if they aren't going to compensate him or anything for working double that, then what incentive does he have for doing this?

I'd rather be fired for not working for a literal week than putting my personal health in danger. At a minimum, you'd have an easy time winning a lawsuit against the company.
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You've never worked for a software company and never will.
 
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Injury
Yeah... go home and sleep. If it's not in your contract to stay through the night to finish it then tell your company to f**k off.
Click to expand...

To which his company will reply "right back at you! Good luck finding another job!"

Where do you work that you negotiated a contract that details every aspect of your job? 😕
Click to expand...

Exactly my point... it's entirely unreasonable for them to think it's fair or even HEALTHY to work literally 24/7 and if he thinks he needs to get some sleep he should just go home for a little bit and sleep. Even when you are on salary you are being paid for what is expected to be in the range of 40-50 hours of work and if they aren't going to compensate him or anything for working double that, then what incentive does he have for doing this?

I'd rather be fired for not working for a literal week than putting my personal health in danger. At a minimum, you'd have an easy time winning a lawsuit against the company.
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You've never worked for a software company and never will.
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You say that like it's a bad thing.
 
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Injury
Yeah... go home and sleep. If it's not in your contract to stay through the night to finish it then tell your company to f**k off.
Click to expand...

To which his company will reply "right back at you! Good luck finding another job!"

Where do you work that you negotiated a contract that details every aspect of your job? 😕
Click to expand...

Exactly my point... it's entirely unreasonable for them to think it's fair or even HEALTHY to work literally 24/7 and if he thinks he needs to get some sleep he should just go home for a little bit and sleep. Even when you are on salary you are being paid for what is expected to be in the range of 40-50 hours of work and if they aren't going to compensate him or anything for working double that, then what incentive does he have for doing this?

I'd rather be fired for not working for a literal week than putting my personal health in danger. At a minimum, you'd have an easy time winning a lawsuit against the company.
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You've never worked for a software company and never will.
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You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Nope, just that you don't know what you're talking about or any job where you might be on call or be required to accomplish tasks/deliverables by a particular deadline.
 
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Injury
Yeah... go home and sleep. If it's not in your contract to stay through the night to finish it then tell your company to f**k off.
Click to expand...

To which his company will reply "right back at you! Good luck finding another job!"

Where do you work that you negotiated a contract that details every aspect of your job? 😕
Click to expand...

Exactly my point... it's entirely unreasonable for them to think it's fair or even HEALTHY to work literally 24/7 and if he thinks he needs to get some sleep he should just go home for a little bit and sleep. Even when you are on salary you are being paid for what is expected to be in the range of 40-50 hours of work and if they aren't going to compensate him or anything for working double that, then what incentive does he have for doing this?

I'd rather be fired for not working for a literal week than putting my personal health in danger. At a minimum, you'd have an easy time winning a lawsuit against the company.
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Yeah, I think the OP is exaggerating a bit on how much he'll be working this week. No manager is stupid enough to think that working without sleep for any more than 24 hours is going to be anything other than a complete disaster. OP will probably be working 16 hour days. Which sucks, but it's not the end of the world or anything worth quitting your job over unless it's a regular occurrence.
 
Just buy a gun now if you can't sleep for more than 1 night.

I've tried all-nighters, and I am sapped of strength after the 20th straight hour of being awake. My productivity turns to zero, and the rest of my day is done. You can drink all the Jolt or caffeinated crap you want, but it's a better idea to just say 'screw it' and take a 6 hour 'nap'. I've tried the 30 minute to 1 hour nap too; these tend to multiple into 2-3 hour naps that don't actually refresh you, and just waste more time.
 
Originally posted by: Aberforth
Some stupid jerk and his friends flamed up all our support forums about a tiny bug in our software, :disgust:
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bug is a bug.

and a client should deserve the best.

If you guys are putting time in to fix it, i give you a lot of respect for going that far for your clients.


Anyhow, take shifts sleeping. A fresh mind is always better then a cranky mind. And personally id rather take a few days in delay vs having a software even more bugged cuz my programers were zombies stuffing random code inside.
 
Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: Aberforth

-I can't quit because salary is too good.
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Yeah, if you are making over 150k I guess I would understand.
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You're basing that on one week? 😕
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I didn't realize he's on a 1 week contract
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No. You're basing your assumption about what he should make on what you know of one week of his job.

 
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Injury
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Nope, just that you don't know what you're talking about or any job where you might be on call or be required to accomplish tasks/deliverables by a particular deadline.
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I actually do have a job where there are deadlines... some very strict... thankyouverymuch...

But I'll be dammed if I'm going to sacrifice my personal time because some sales person wanted to kiss up to a customer and give a deadline that is unreasonable. I'm sorry that you think a job is more important than life or that anyone will give a damn whether you got a project done on time or not at your funeral.

I'd rather get fired and work a no-skill service job and still be able to enjoy my life than spend my life worrying about whether or not someone's stupid computer program didn't crash. I mean, unless it's the software for some life-saving technology, it's really stupid to think that ANYONE'S life means less than getting it fixed.
 
No job is more important than sleep. I'll pull a late night work if there is a disaster. I might even work up to 20 hours straight for ONE day. After that, they can wait for me to sleep or fire me. I work to live my life, not live my life to work.
 
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Injury
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Nope, just that you don't know what you're talking about or any job where you might be on call or be required to accomplish tasks/deliverables by a particular deadline.
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I actually do have a job where there are deadlines... some very strict... thankyouverymuch...

But I'll be dammed if I'm going to sacrifice my personal time because some sales person wanted to kiss up to a customer and give a deadline that is unreasonable. I'm sorry that you think a job is more important than life or that anyone will give a damn whether you got a project done on time or not at your funeral.

I'd rather get fired and work a no-skill service job and still be able to enjoy my life than spend my life worrying about whether or not someone's stupid computer program didn't crash. I mean, unless it's the software for some life-saving technology, it's really stupid to think that ANYONE'S life means less than getting it fixed.
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:laugh: You think his life is in danger because of a tough week at work? You guys are so dramatic.
 
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