<< Why do you think it sucks? No one has given me any good reasons.
Um maybe its not as good as MS and maybe its not a business standard.
Star office is just another POS trying to reinvent the wheel. >>
Just because a product is "business standard" does NOT mean that it is superior to another product.
For example, at work, the "standard" has become Outlook (which I find is the WORST piece of crap out there in regards to emails). I sometimes feel like opening up emails which contain viruses
just to remind people how bad it is.
As soon as the RC connector becomes available in Ximian, I am so switching to the Linux environment at work.
Star office is not that bad. And no it's NOT reiventing the wheel. Actually....MS Word is reinventing the wheel. Word Perfect was available first. Microsoft then released Word....there was no need for it,
other then to gain market share. (Yes I know business...but technically..."reinventing the wheel"). Actually....come to think about it...Microsoft probably either stole or bought a word application and called
it MS Word.
As for Star Office...it's hard to call the first open source complete suite reinventing the wheel....
5.2 doesn't even compare to Office 97. I hate anti MS guys speading propaganda. They are even worse than fanboys. Star Office is ok but it is nothing compared to MS Office which has the 500 features that (I don't but) a lot of people use.
<< There is no standard.
sorry to break the news to you but .doc, .xls, ppt are business standards. Show me a office that doesnt run MS apps and ill show you a office that has some type of converter to open those apps. >>
There are places where the office is using entirely open source products you know....
MS doesn't have to be your entire world...and if it is...I feel sorry for you.
Sun itself doesn't use MS products. If you want to submit an RFP or whatnot, you have to convert it to plaintext pretty much.
I'm sure they have converters laying about somewhere though.
-Phil
I'm sure they have converters laying about somewhere though.
-Phil
FYI Star Office supports .doc .xls and .ppt. It can also save back to those formats. I like it just fine, im currently using the 6.02 beta.
OutHouse
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As soon as the RC connector becomes available in Ximian, I am so switching to the Linux environment at work.
how are you going to do that? are you the network admin?
Outlook (which I find is the WORST piece of crap out there in regards to emails). I sometimes feel like opening up emails which contain viruses
by this statement i dont think you are a NA. no administrator in his right mind would infect his network with a virus just to spit in the eye of Outlook. By the way whats wrong with outlook?
Just because a product is "business standard" does NOT mean that it is superior to another product.
It doesnt? humm I wonder why it became the business standard then.
how are you going to do that? are you the network admin?
Outlook (which I find is the WORST piece of crap out there in regards to emails). I sometimes feel like opening up emails which contain viruses
by this statement i dont think you are a NA. no administrator in his right mind would infect his network with a virus just to spit in the eye of Outlook. By the way whats wrong with outlook?
Just because a product is "business standard" does NOT mean that it is superior to another product.
It doesnt? humm I wonder why it became the business standard then.
<< 5.2 doesn't even compare to Office 97. I hate anti MS guys speading propaganda. They are even worse than fanboys. Star Office is ok but it is nothing compared to MS Office which has the 500 features that (I don't but) a lot of people use. >>
Check out 6.0 when it comes out.
The first star office that came out was 5.0...please remember that.
Then 5.1 was a major improvement and 5.2 was another major improvement. Sooner or later, Staroffice will be better then Office.
How many versions of MS Word has their been.
Before bashing star office, please keep things in prespective.
And many people use Staroffice, and why not? It's free, legally, and accomplishes many tasks that you'd perform on a normal basis.
As for using Word....it's like...when sending a doc file to someone, your trying to trap them in an MS world....why not use a file docuement standard which
is not closed.
Hey, I like MS Office, once I learned to use it. (key words, learn to use it).
Also, what happens if someone sends you an Excel document, how ya gonna read it in it's proper format, if you're using Star?
Also, what happens if someone sends you an Excel document, how ya gonna read it in it's proper format, if you're using Star?
<< As soon as the RC connector becomes available in Ximian, I am so switching to the Linux environment at work.
how are you going to do that? are you the network admin?
Well...let's see....I've got Sun Solaris on my workstation, and Linux/Windows on my business laptop. I just won't boot up to
Windows anymore. I'll just use Linux. that simple. No need to be network admin for that. I'm "network admin" of my own linux pc
Outlook (which I find is the WORST piece of crap out there in regards to emails). I sometimes feel like opening up emails which contain viruses
by this statement i dont think you are a NA. no administrator in his right mind would infect his network with a virus just to spit in the eye of Outlook. By the way whats wrong with outlook?
No admin in their right mind woudl do that? Probably right, I've been a linux admin, but would downright refuse to be a nt admin...too many headaches. What's wrong with outlook??...RIGHT ABOVE is one prime example why it's crap.
Just because a product is "business standard" does NOT mean that it is superior to another product.
It doesnt? humm I wonder why it became the business standard then. >>
That is one question I would REALLY like to get an answer to. You have no idea how bad I want this question answered. It makes no
sense to me that a product which is so inferior compared to others becomes standard.
<< Hey, I like MS Office, once I learned to use it. (key words, learn to use it).
Also, what happens if someone sends you an Excel document, how ya gonna read it in it's proper format, if you're using Star? >>
Umm..you open up the excell document in star office? Done it several times. No big mystery there.
You should really try out Star Office. You might enjoy it!
<< why not use a file docuement standard which
because most of us in the corporate world really dont care. we want a product that 1. works 2. is going to be around for a LONG time and 3. has proven its self as a value to the company. >>
Okay...that just makes me laugh....
do you KNOW that some people have actually been fired for choosing a Microsoft Solution? Apparantly the licensning schemes of Microsoft was too much for the company to handle. I wonder why.....
The things you learn at http://www.linuxtoday.com can be real eye openers.
As for reason number 2, I hope your wrong there. It would suck to have Microsoft around for a long time. Hopefully them breaking up into two (if that news report I read was true), will help.
RaySun2Be
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No one has mentioned Lotus SmartSuite. Now that IBM owns it, it must be the best.
Go Big Blue
And sometimes I really miss MultiMate.....
I must agree, MS Office has become the standard. Not the best, but the standard. At the bank where I use to work, we used Lotus products a lot. But the corporate guys got hooked on MS Office because they claimed it was "easy to use" (in violation of the existing standards), so we had to have both just to communicate with everyone. The standards at the bank eventually moved to MS Office. Not because it was better, but because it was more prevalent and it was costly having two product suites.
I used to use Project Workbench for project management, and it had a lot of strong forecasting and actuals reporting features that MS Project still can't do. But again, others I needed to communicate with were using MS Project, and so we eventually switched.
MS Office may not be the best, but it is the most used, and in order to communicate with others
Go Big Blue
And sometimes I really miss MultiMate.....
I must agree, MS Office has become the standard. Not the best, but the standard. At the bank where I use to work, we used Lotus products a lot. But the corporate guys got hooked on MS Office because they claimed it was "easy to use" (in violation of the existing standards), so we had to have both just to communicate with everyone. The standards at the bank eventually moved to MS Office. Not because it was better, but because it was more prevalent and it was costly having two product suites.
I used to use Project Workbench for project management, and it had a lot of strong forecasting and actuals reporting features that MS Project still can't do. But again, others I needed to communicate with were using MS Project, and so we eventually switched.
MS Office may not be the best, but it is the most used, and in order to communicate with others
<< There's a reason it's free; it sucks. >> >>
let's see, Linux almost never crashes, and its free. While windows BSOD..............
Stupidity shows its head again.
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<< Just because a product is "business standard" does NOT mean that it is superior to another product. >>
<< It doesnt? humm I wonder why it became the business standard then. >>
Because the Federal Government of the United States of America insists that all deliverables be in Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excel format. The same FGUSA that sued Microsoft for being a monopoly.
i dont' use staroffice, but I do use www.openoffice.org , an opensource version of staroffice, i like it, does everything i need it to. why pay so much money(ms office) for pretty much basic typing needs? (home users and college students need only apply)
I haven't used Star Office, but I could think of several reason to use it instead of MS Office:
1. It's free
2. It runs on several platforms
3. It's MS Office compatible
4. It resembles MS Office so learing-curve isn't so steep.
5. It does 95% of things that people do with office-suites.
I think that 6.0 is a big step forward for Star Office.
EDIT: If you want to do some SERIOUS typesetting/word-processing, take a look at Lyx! It works in different ways than your standard word-processors, but everyone I know that has learned to use it, say it's THE BEST thing for word-processing!
1. It's free
2. It runs on several platforms
3. It's MS Office compatible
4. It resembles MS Office so learing-curve isn't so steep.
5. It does 95% of things that people do with office-suites.
I think that 6.0 is a big step forward for Star Office.
EDIT: If you want to do some SERIOUS typesetting/word-processing, take a look at Lyx! It works in different ways than your standard word-processors, but everyone I know that has learned to use it, say it's THE BEST thing for word-processing!
I've been using MS Office since v7.0 (Office95) ... using Office 2000 now.
Tried Star Office...its only redeeming factor is that it's free.
Tried Star Office...its only redeeming factor is that it's free.
<< I've been using MS Office since v7.0 (Office95) ... using Office 2000 now.
Tried Star Office...its only redeeming factor is that it's free. >>
Which version did you try? 6.0 is released shortly, and I hear it's a big step forward.
Stupidity thy name is Bluga. Seriously, if you can't get a win2k or xp machine to run without bsod'ing, there's something wrong with you.
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