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StinkyPinky

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To be honest this is exactly how I thought the game would turn out to be. Basically Minecraft with a few other games thrown in. I'll admit that the technology to render so many planets is unbelievable and can be used for so many other games from now on. However, this is not a game I'd enjoy past the first couple of hours.
Just a personal opinion.

This is my thoughts also. I may get it when it's 50% off perhaps, once it's had a few feature updates.
 

XiandreX

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I just ordered the PS4 version for my Nephew who is 12.
He loves Minecraft, exploring, resources etc and the lack of combat is not as issue.
He plays normal Minecraft in free mode without combat.
I think to the right target audience this game will be well worth the time and I explained to him what the game entails and
he was more excited than I expected, so as long as he is happy and enjoys it, that's all that counts correct? :)
 

sze5003

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I just ordered the PS4 version for my Nephew who is 12.
He loves Minecraft, exploring, resources etc and the lack of combat is not as issue.
He plays normal Minecraft in free mode without combat.
I think to the right target audience this game will be well worth the time and I explained to him what the game entails and
he was more excited than I expected, so as long as he is happy and enjoys it, that's all that counts correct? :)
Yup kids will love it, and I imagine they would be more interested in playing it due to their imagination.

The videos I watched for ps4 had some mehh graphics though. Hopefully it will be more crisp for the PC. I'm also pretty sure it won't take very long for this game to drop price.
 

zinfamous

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Yup kids will love it, and I imagine they would be more interested in playing it due to their imagination.

The videos I watched for ps4 had some mehh graphics though. Hopefully it will be more crisp for the PC. I'm also pretty sure it won't take very long for this game to drop price.

My nephew has been stoked for this for some time, but I'm not sure if he understands that there is virtually no multiplayer. His favorite overall games are minecraft and Destiny, though he apparently stopped playing destiny because he hit the wall where all he has left to do is RAID, and that involves commitment time and jerk tolerance--two things he can't afford at his age. :D

But he basically sits on those games with his headphones and plays with friends. So...I need to check with him and see what he thinks about it as I bet he's already geeking out over the last couple of days. When I mentioned some of these things about the size of the game and lack of multiplayer a few weeks ago, he didn't seem to believe me. :\

anyway, still hoping they tweak things like carrying capacity and I will pick this up some time down the line at a discount. ...hopefully it is popular enough to get the devs supporting more features in this game.

It is something that I want to like, and I should enjoy, but I already know that I will burnout after about 10 hours from what I've seen (a fun 10 hours, but I'm at the point in my life where I tell myself that games like this aren't worth my effort--like my 2nd attempt to play Divinity Original Sin--still stuck in the same opening town, endless BS fetch quests, and for some reason I have to play ro-sham-bo to win dialogue checks? ...seriously?)
 
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sze5003

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My nephew has been stoked for this for some time, but I'm not sure if he understands that there is virtually no multiplayer. His favorite overall games are minecraft and Destiny, though he apparently stopped playing destiny because he hit the wall where all he has left to do is RAID, and that involves commitment time and jerk tolerance--two things he can't afford at his age. :D

But he basically sits on those games with his headphones and plays with friends. So...I need to check with him and see what he thinks about it as I bet he's already geeking out over the last couple of days. When I mentioned some of these things about the size of the game and lack of multiplayer a few weeks ago, he didn't seem to believe me. :\

anyway, still hoping they tweak things like carrying capacity and I will pick this up some time down the line at a discount. ...hopefully it is popular enough to get the devs supporting more features in this game.

It is something that I want to like, and I should enjoy, but I already know that I will burnout after about 10 hours from what I've seen (a fun 10 hours, but I'm at the point in my life where I tell myself that games like this aren't worth my effort--like my 2nd attempt to play Divinity Original Sin--still stuck in the same opening town, endless BS fetch quests, and for some reason I have to play ro-sham-bo to win dialogue checks? ...seriously?)
Yea after a couple of hours I'll burn out as well. Divinity was one game I wanted to pick up a long time ago. A lot of people enjoyed it but I felt it would be to tough for me to play and I never ended up buying it. It also doesn't have a set story and you kind of have an objective although you are free to go where you like.

I'm hoping I can rent no man's sky and play it for a weekend to see how fast I get bored.
 

Anubis

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im really not sure why anyone thought this was a muiltyplayer game, it was never marketed as one and has always been a "single player experience". so many people are pissed about this for no reason at all.

the graphics on the PS4 will not be representative of it on the PC, PS4 is locked to 30 FPS and has trouble even getting that
 

zinfamous

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Yea after a couple of hours I'll burn out as well. Divinity was one game I wanted to pick up a long time ago. A lot of people enjoyed it but I felt it would be to tough for me to play and I never ended up buying it. It also doesn't have a set story and you kind of have an objective although you are free to go where you like.

I'm hoping I can rent no man's sky and play it for a weekend to see how fast I get bored.

I wanted to play Divinity, but console exclusive, so...no dice :\

edit: derp--I confused Divinity with Destiny.
 
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zinfamous

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im really not sure why anyone thought this was a muiltyplayer game, it was never marketed as one and has always been a "single player experience". so many people are pissed about this for no reason at all.

the graphics on the PS4 will not be representative of it on the PC, PS4 is locked to 30 FPS and has trouble even getting that

Agree with that, but despite some choice comments from the devs, I don't think the reality of the math in the algorithm was effectively hammered into players' minds through marketing and other dev appearances. The idea that there was some multiplayer was more or less "teased"; and afaik--the fact that even in the non-existent chance you do encounter another player in the same space you actually don't see or interact with other player models, was never revealed prior to release. At least...I never saw this mentioned. Not that I've been following closely. I didn't realize until a few days ago with that Kotaku article, I think? that the game has no player models

That's a rather big deal, imo (and I get that it's not a feature that would be necessary when you pretty much have to break things to make it happen), and I think that marketing wanted to ignore these kind of details--because a lot of the audience that this game is designed for (Crafting/exploration) are actually young kids that really want multiplayer more than anything else.

Personally, I much prefer the single player aspects of games and that's what I always liked about this, but I think some important details were probably put to the side in order to mildly suggest a feature that "is kinda theoretically possible", despite that ever being the case.
 

sze5003

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I wanted to play Divinity, but console exclusive, so...no dice :\

edit: derp--I confused Divinity with Destiny.
Oh I was talking about the same game you were, divinity original sin on PC. Had no idea there was another game called Divinity.
 

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The idea that there was some multiplayer was more or less "teased"; and afaik--the fact that even in the non-existent chance you do encounter another player in the same space you actually don't see or interact with other player models, was never revealed prior to release. At least...I never saw this mentioned. Not that I've been following closely. I didn't realize until a few days ago with that Kotaku article, I think? that the game has no player models

That's a rather big deal, imo (and I get that it's not a feature that would be necessary when you pretty much have to break things to make it happen), and I think that marketing wanted to ignore these kind of details--because a lot of the audience that this game is designed for (Crafting/exploration) are actually young kids that really want multiplayer more than anything else.

The dev has attributed the lack of seeing each other to overloaded servers.
 

Rhezuss

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Don't base your opinion on youtube videos...they're most of the time really boring. It's never fun to watch a farming-loving gamer famr for 3 hours, never. I read so many opinions based on from videos it's getting a bit annoying.

Clearly it's not for everyone, really not and even less at this price tag. But if you can erase all the hype and weird comments by people that did not played the game you might have a great time in NMS.

Yesterday I played a bit more, maybe 3 hours and found a lot of cool stuff.

There's monotliths to help you understand the native language and when you know enough words you start to understand the native species and you get clues on what they want
There's manufactures and bases, locked or opened, where you can find new technologies or reactive it's core to get some gift
There's creatures, plants, rocks that you can identify and if you find 100% of the planet life forms you'll get rewarded with stash of money
When you discover a new life form on a planet, you gain units (game money) for uploading the stats
Exploration is rewarding since it's when you venture that you find language bits and new technologies
Those techs you find, they help you upgrade your lifesuite, multi-tool and spacecraft
There's some primordial basic ressources that you need to keep your stuff fonctionning. Plutonium for your spacecraft fuel, Zinc or Titanium for you suit, etc
You can sell minerals and other rare items at any space stations or at some settlements on planets and each system/species will offer you more or less for those ressources and items
You will encouter space pirates, they are damn buggers so whatch your flight path
You can shoot at asteroids to gather a specific mineral to fuel up your ship
When you start the game you will have a hard time jumping from system to system and a "quest" will guide you in each steps you'll have to accomplish in order to build your Warp Charges to refuel your hyperdrive
Etc...

It's weird and fun for what it is.
 

SMOGZINN

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Yea after a couple of hours I'll burn out as well. Divinity was one game I wanted to pick up a long time ago. A lot of people enjoyed it but I felt it would be to tough for me to play and I never ended up buying it. It also doesn't have a set story and you kind of have an objective although you are free to go where you like.

Divinity:OS definitely has a story. You are free to go where you like, but you go somewhere you are not supposed to and you will die from mobs much to hard for you. So, while it is open world you are pretty much hemmed into areas that are level appropriate. In those areas you can choose which quests to pursue in what order, but mobs don't respawn so eventually the story is still going to come back and smack you in the face whether you want it to or not.
 
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Divinity:OS definitely has a story. You are free to go where you like, but you go somewhere you are not supposed to and you will die from mobs much to hard for you. So, while it is open world you are pretty much hemmed into areas that are level appropriate. In those areas you can choose which quests to pursue in what order, but mobs don't respawn so eventually the story is still going to come back and smack you in the face whether you want it to or not.

I love Divinity original sin, for the loot and for the wide variety of character classes, skills, etc. It is the first game I have really gotten into in many months. That said, yes, it does have a "story", but it is definitely weird and convoluted.

My grandson, college age, just purchased No Man's Sky on steam. I was surprised he paid 60 bucks for it, since usually he buys indie and older, cheap games. Definitely seems like a game to wait for a sale, but he worked 2 jobs all summer, so I guess he deserves to blow a few bucks. He is in Ohio with his parents now, but is coming back here (minnesota) to go to school this fall, so I am curious to find out what he thinks about it. We have sharing on steam, so I may give it a try as well. Lack of multiplayer would not bother me at all, since I dont really play MP.
 

sze5003

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Divinity:OS definitely has a story. You are free to go where you like, but you go somewhere you are not supposed to and you will die from mobs much to hard for you. So, while it is open world you are pretty much hemmed into areas that are level appropriate. In those areas you can choose which quests to pursue in what order, but mobs don't respawn so eventually the story is still going to come back and smack you in the face whether you want it to or not.
Yea I will have to get it and sit down to play it slowly. Seems like I would enjoy it more than no man's sky although I'm still kind of interested just to see how quickly I get bored of it if that makes sense.
 

DrunkenSano

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Looks like you need to play it slowly to get your moneys worth out of this game, I'm reading players already beating the game after 30 hours played.
 

Mandres

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This is what happens when you throw $Texas in marketing behind an indy tech-demo. It should have been a $20 title, or they should have licensed the engine/universe for someone else to make a game out of.
 

ImpulsE69

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"beat it"? I thought there was no real "end game", just exploring. They surely didn't explore all 18quintillian planets in 30 hours.
 

Rhezuss

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The goal is to get to the center of the galaxy...after that I don't know...
 

DrunkenSano

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"beat it"? I thought there was no real "end game", just exploring. They surely didn't explore all 18quintillian planets in 30 hours.

It's to get to the center of the galaxy. Originally, the closer you get to the center, the higher the chance of meeting another player but all of that is out of the window now.
 

smackababy

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The dev has attributed the lack of seeing each other to overloaded servers.

Which is total BS. People already analyzed the network traffic on the PS4 version. There is no player location data sent or received. Unless there is a future patch or the devs can't say it is only in the PC version after the release, it's pretty garbage deceptive marketing.

I get that it is supposed to be a single player experience, but the continuous hinting that there is a chance (a very good one, if players are to be believed) of running into others not being explained as "not in the game" is total BS. If the dev came out and said "other players done exist in your game, there is no multiplayer aspect" quite a few preorders will be canceled.
 

cmdrdredd

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im really not sure why anyone thought this was a muiltyplayer game, it was never marketed as one and has always been a "single player experience". so many people are pissed about this for no reason at all.

the graphics on the PS4 will not be representative of it on the PC, PS4 is locked to 30 FPS and has trouble even getting that

I remember hearing the developers talk about "joining in on space battles if you want" and "being able to see planets your friend's explored and named" stuff like that was mentioned before. There was some vague mention of the ability to somehow find people randomly. As smackababy pointed out, the developers had the opportunity to set the record straight and refused to do so because they knew full well people would not buy the game at launch because the vague premise of "potentially finding people randomly" would essentially be a selling point.

Unfortunately we live in the era of "lets sell a game at E3 and other trade shows and make excuses later on why certain features were removed or altered after the game launches". Whether it's game modes being removed and enabled later through patches (Street Fighter 5 cinematic story mode), graphics being changed (too many games to list), or selling points that don't work as you were led to believe (no man's sky finding players).
 

gorcorps

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I remember hearing the developers talk about "joining in on space battles if you want" and "being able to see planets your friend's explored and named" stuff like that was mentioned before. There was some vague mention of the ability to somehow find people randomly. As smackababy pointed out, the developers had the opportunity to set the record straight and refused to do so because they knew full well people would not buy the game at launch because the vague premise of "potentially finding people randomly" would essentially be a selling point.

Unfortunately we live in the era of "lets sell a game at E3 and other trade shows and make excuses later on why certain features were removed or altered after the game launches". Whether it's game modes being removed and enabled later through patches (Street Fighter 5 cinematic story mode), graphics being changed (too many games to list), or selling points that don't work as you were led to believe (no man's sky finding players).

They definitely mentioned you'd be able to see your friends. Then they kind of backslid and mentioned that even if you saw them, you may not know it because it won't display their name or anything. They'll be just another ship out there somewhere. Then I guess they even took that away. I didn't care about that feature, but it's kind of BS that they seemed to have trimmed so much.
 

gorcorps

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Thankfully there's still video stores around me. I rented it and now I'll be able to make up my own damn mind
 

Gunbuster

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So the real question is what filtering is installed on the planet and animal naming feature? When I get it on a sale 6 months from now will I be jumping through an unending stream of planets named donger prime and vagoo clito alpha?