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Wow, seriously? What the fuck?
Sallie Mae wants to default my loans too. Best bet they put me through this, they will be paying for the rest of my education.
 

bignateyk

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When they're applied properly, they most certainly do.

The most common situation in which I think they're appropriate is when the police have solid intelligence on a gang hideout or a drug distribution house or something like that. By serving a no-knock warrant, the police get a chance to get inside the house without alerting anyone to their presence, which means that the suspects have less time to arm themselves or barricade themselves inside the home. It also gives them less time to destroy evidence.

Sorry, but that's bullshit. If the situation deserves a no-knock warrant, there better be way more evidence than can be destroyed that quickly. If there was so little there that could be destroyed so quickly then they shouldn't have been wasting the taxpayer money.
 

rivan

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It sure seems like there are some missing details in this story.
 

mugs

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Apr 29, 2003
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More details would be interesting, but if you haven't watched the video, watch it. The homeowner is hilarious.


Yeah. My question is, what else has the estranged wife done?

Plagiarized probably.



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I think the OP added the no-knock part, the article just says they had a warrant. If they had a no-knock warrant he probably would have still been in bed when they came through the door. Breaking the door down does not mean that they had a no-knock warrant, it could just mean that he was unwilling to open the door for them.
 
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Macamus Prime

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This is what happens in AH-MERI-KA when you let capitalism do whatever it can, to make the most money.

Vulture capitalists ruling usually come out of the USA. We have turned into a nation of profit enforcement, at all costs.

Enjoy it, you mindless drones.
 

BeauJangles

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Sorry, but that's bullshit. If the situation deserves a no-knock warrant, there better be way more evidence than can be destroyed that quickly. If there was so little there that could be destroyed so quickly then they shouldn't have been wasting the taxpayer money.

Depends on what you suggest as an alternative. Say two cruisers roll up in front of a house, lights flashing, etc. Cops get out and knock on the door, announcing their presence as police officers with a warrant. One dude can easily stall them at the door for a few minutes while the others flush / dump / whatever the drugs. It isn't hard to get a large amount of most drugs down drains, sinks, and toilets really fast.

The evidence destruction was pretty secondary to my other point, though. When confronted with a situation where the police fear a suspect will barricade himself in his house, no-knock warrants can be useful. They certainly should not be applied in EVERY potential barricade situation, I believe that police should work harder to apprehend criminals away from their homes, their friends, and their guns. Making arrests in parking lots or during "routine" traffic stops are also highly effective methods at reducing the chances for someone to resist and increasing the safety of everyone involved.
 

waggy

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ok thanks to mugs saying the guy was funny i watched the video. that guy was great!

and WTF does it take 6 hours to search the place for the women? sheesh.
 

Linflas

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This is what happens in AH-MERI-KA when you let capitalism do whatever it can, to make the most money.

Vulture capitalists ruling usually come out of the USA. We have turned into a nation of profit enforcement, at all costs.

Enjoy it, you mindless drones.

Mindless is not knowing the difference between a government agency and a private entity. Last time I checked the U.S. Department of Education is not some evil corporation. If anything they are something much more threatening to liberty, an unchecked Federal bureaucracy calling on the services of a local government bureaucracy to invade a private citizens home.
 

GaryJohnson

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I'm willing to bet there's more to this, like she's possibly involved in some sort of loan fraud.
 

BeauJangles

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Edit:
I think the OP added the no-knock part, the article just says they had a warrant. If they had a no-knock warrant he probably would have still been in bed when they came through the door. Breaking the door down does not mean that they had a no-knock warrant, it could just mean that he was unwilling to open the door for them.

True. In general however the police are bound by the knock and announce rule. They must knock and announce their presence and give you adequate time to come to the door. In reality, however, the Supreme Court has upheld police officers waiting as few as 15 or 20 seconds before knocking the door down.
 

JS80

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This is what happens in AH-MERI-KA when you let capitalism do whatever it can, to make the most money.

Vulture capitalists ruling usually come out of the USA. We have turned into a nation of profit enforcement, at all costs.

Enjoy it, you mindless drones.

lol who's the mindless drone?

btw the story doesn't pass sniff test. there must be more to the story.
 

FDF12389

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More details would be interesting, but if you haven't watched the video, watch it. The homeowner is hilarious.




Plagiarized probably.



Edit:
I think the OP added the no-knock part, the article just says they had a warrant. If they had a no-knock warrant he probably would have still been in bed when they came through the door. Breaking the door down does not mean that they had a no-knock warrant, it could just mean that he was unwilling to open the door for them.

Well if they didn't have one they executed as if they did, he even tried saying "hold on" so he could open the door for them.
 

Macamus Prime

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Mindless is not knowing the difference between a government agency and a private entity. Last time I checked the U.S. Department of Education is not some evil corporation. If anything they are something much more threatening to liberty, an unchecked Federal bureaucracy calling on the services of a local government bureaucracy to invade a private citizens home.

Where in my post did I note I was complaining about CORPORATIONS?

No where. Profit seeking and capital retention efforts apply to government entities as well.

Granted, vulture capitalism's origins are in private entities, however, it's the US courts that issue the rulings.

Mindless is also being a trolling asshat; quick to spew vomit out your mouth and semen down your leg to get "teh pwnge" out there as soon as possible.

Go clean yourself up, you filth.
 

Macamus Prime

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lol who's the mindless drone?

Mindless is being a trolling asshat; quick to spew vomit out your mouth and semen down your leg to get "teh pwnge" out there as soon as possible.

Go clean yourself up, you filth.
 

Macamus Prime

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Feb 24, 2011
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lol who's the trolling asshat?

Still spewing I see,... this time it seems like your ass is leaking shit as well; which goes to show you, you really are full of shit.

Oh, wait,.. "lol who's full of shit?" is your response.
 

Jaepheth

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I'm not too good with Constitutional rights...

but I thought we were protected against debtor's prisons, and I would assume by extension, being arrested for simply owing money.