No dual core love in 2015

[dorion]

Games refusing to start with dualcores is totally lame. If dragonage inquisition can run on a 2 Ghz intel quad it should run on a 4+ Ghz dualcore as well.

Refusing to start with dual cores, but perfectly OK to start on a low end quad-core like Kabini or Baytrail, lies and madness!

 

[Cerb]

I don't game but the new i3's with the 4meg cache and the 4600 IGP seem pretty good to me. Mostly I just watch video and surf the net. They clock higher naturally because they are dual core and use less power. Maybe they don't have turbo boost, but they do alright for what I want them to do.

No, they clock higher due to money. Intel sells faster chips with more cores, but they want the minimum amount of price gap between different tiers, and they need new chips to be better than old chips, so we have slightly faster i3s than i5s, so that the fastest i3 to th slowest i5 isn't much of a jump. There's nothing technical about it.

If you don't do more with your PC, even a new i3 might be overkill.

 

[boozzer]

Dual cores certainly are dead, my back up x4 9150e with its 1.8Ghz clockspeed ripped the old e8200@ 3GHz i used to have apart in BF3. First generation phenoms are garbage compared to C2D on a clock for clock basis.Older games ran miles ahead on the e8200 obviously

Multi-threading is here for good, i am sure my experience can be carried over to something like a Amd x4 965 blasting a G3220 or similar chip in anything multi-threaded despite the much slower ipc of of the Phenom 2.

What i would love is actually a couple pc exclusive games that honestly can use something pass 4 threads with true benefits,been seeing games using 4 threads for 7 years which is just a eternity i think.

FYi, we are talking about haswell dual cores, not your 6 to 7 years old dual cores. alot of builders gave advice on the new 3258 dual core for budget builds. my naphew got it from me as a gift now I am pissed at the artificial limitations place on his gaming choices.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

Refusing to start with dual cores, but perfectly OK to start on a low end quad-core like Kabini or Baytrail, lies and madness!

I don't think it's malice. Just slight incompetence, will probably get patched.

 

[ShintaiDK]

FC4 is patched up for dualcores now.

 

[cbn]

FC4 is patched up for dualcores now.

Good, now there is only have one more game to go: Dragon Age Inquisition.

 

[JumBie]

FC4 is patched up for dualcores now.

Seems to be a hit or miss, it works for some but not for others. There is a hack however that many users seem to be having a lot of success with. You can find it on the notorious skidrow website.

 

[lyssword]

nobody here is claiming g3258 is a i7 4770k killer, just saying there's a bug in the game that doesn't let us play, even tho it is more than capable (and yes, we will tolerate occasional dips to 40fps).

 

[boozzer]

FC4 is patched up for dualcores now.

patch 1.4 didn't fix dual core black screen. gamers still crying everywhere. it only fixed the game controller issue from what I have read so far.

 

[notty22]

PC Patch 1.4.0 is LIVE

http://far-cry.ubi.com/en-US/news/live-updates-detail.aspx?c=tcm:152-186291-16&ct=tcm:148-76770-32
11/24/2014 04:21 PM

We’re pleased to say that the newest update, PC Patch 1.4.0, includes fixes to two issues that were affecting users attempting to play Far Cry 4. The new patch should solve the problem causing users to encounter a black screen upon attempting to launch the game,

 

[escrow4]

FYi, we are talking about haswell dual cores, not your 6 to 7 years old dual cores. alot of builders gave advice on the new 3258 dual core for budget builds. my naphew got it from me as a gift now I am pissed at the artificial limitations place on his gaming choices.

There is no such thing as a budget gaming box. You have a budget buy a console otherwise you will have major compromises and then you start to look at upgrades and then you realise you would have been better off with a console in the first place or waiting until you could build an i5 box as a base.

 

[frozentundra123456]

There is no such thing as a budget gaming box. You have a budget buy a console otherwise you will have major compromises and then you start to look at upgrades and then you realise you would have been better off with a console in the first place or waiting until you could build an i5 box as a base.

There is still a multitude of indie titles and older games, as well as many types of on-line games that will play on a low end PC, but are not available on consoles.

 

[SPBHM]

"budget gaming" PC is huge.

 

[lyssword]

Looked up my newegg/ebay history
Already had 23" acer 1080p monitor
Purchases made in 2013-2014
2x2gb 1333ram $40
1 x CORSAIR CX series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE $30
ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card $20
ASUS H81M-C/CSM ATX DDR3 1333 LGA 1150 Motherboards
$55
r7790> gifted to brother, bought r270 asus on ebay > $105
g3220> gifted to my brother bought 1 x Intel Pentium G3258 Haswell Dual-Core 3.2GHz LGA 1150 Desktop Processor BX80646G3258 $70
1 x Cooler Master Hyper TX3 - CPU Cooler with 3 Direct Contact Heatpipes $20
1 x Creative Fatal1ty Gaming Headset $20
WD Western Digital Black 1 TB,7200 RPM (WD1002FAEX) = $60
Seagate 240ST 240gb SSD = $100
Etekcity® Scroll X1 (M555) = $18

40+30+20+55+105+70+20+20+60+100+18 = 538 = hardware cost over 2years. And, as a computer science student, a computer is quite a bit more valuable than xbone/ps. Plus the games I play are cheaper or free.

 

[SPBHM]

40+30+20+55+105+70+20+20+60+100+18 = 538 = hardware cost over 2years. And, as a computer science student, a computer is quite a bit more valuable than xbone/ps. Plus the games I play are cheaper or free.

and it enabled you to continue using the same machine (Xbox 360 from 2 years ago is starting to be abandoned for new games), save money with live subscriptions without losing online gaming.

 

[boozzer]

There is no such thing as a budget gaming box. You have a budget buy a console otherwise you will have major compromises and then you start to look at upgrades and then you realise you would have been better off with a console in the first place or waiting until you could build an i5 box as a base.

I kinda want to respond but I don't want to get into anymore trouble with the mods.

the benefits of teaching my nephew on how to build a pc, doing his home work, connect to the interwebs, making sure he understands why pc is the master race, preventing him from becoming a console sheep, all of that and more matters.

a pc isn't just for gaming you know D:

 

[dontsh00tmesanta]

There is a budget gaming PC what are you talking about

 

[tential]

There is a budget gaming PC what are you talking about

Welcome to "PC Master Race" superiority complex. It's the reason a lot of people dislike PC Gamers.

 

[Cerb]

There is a budget gaming PC what are you talking about

I think it's incompetence by Ubisoft that we're talking about, actually.

There is still a multitude of indie titles and older games, as well as many types of on-line games that will play on a low end PC, but are not available on consoles.

Even the big titles only lag today on Core 2/Phenom II boxes that aren't 3+ cores and well over 3GHz, really. You get more if you pay more, but a "quad" FM2, SB or newer Core i3, >3GHz Core 2 Quad, >3GHz Phenom II X4 or X6 (with L3--forget the neutered ones), or dual-core 1st-gen Core i5 (1st-gen Core i3 is iffy); and any number of video cards at or under $150, or older ones equivalent to them, will handle the latest games perfectly fine, with visuals turned down, provided your expectations aren't really high.

 

[boozzer]

Welcome to "PC Master Race" superiority complex. It's the reason a lot of people dislike PC Gamers.

come on, thought it was obvious how my entire post wasn't serious. if you were directed at my last post in this thread the only serious part was the last sentence.

 

[escrow4]

Looked up my newegg/ebay history
Already had 23" acer 1080p monitor
Purchases made in 2013-2014
2x2gb 1333ram $40
1 x CORSAIR CX series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE $30
ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card $20
ASUS H81M-C/CSM ATX DDR3 1333 LGA 1150 Motherboards
$55
r7790> gifted to brother, bought r270 asus on ebay > $105
g3220> gifted to my brother bought 1 x Intel Pentium G3258 Haswell Dual-Core 3.2GHz LGA 1150 Desktop Processor BX80646G3258 $70
1 x Cooler Master Hyper TX3 - CPU Cooler with 3 Direct Contact Heatpipes $20
1 x Creative Fatal1ty Gaming Headset $20
WD Western Digital Black 1 TB,7200 RPM (WD1002FAEX) = $60
Seagate 240ST 240gb SSD = $100
Etekcity® Scroll X1 (M555) = $18

40+30+20+55+105+70+20+20+60+100+18 = 538 = hardware cost over 2years. And, as a computer science student, a computer is quite a bit more valuable than xbone/ps. Plus the games I play are cheaper or free.

How is that working out for Inquisition or Far Cry 4? Is it smooth and stutter free? You obviously won't go near 60FPS, is 30FPS even achievable at 1080p without maximum ugly settings? Will it hold up for GTA V or Witcher 3? Compromises again.

 

[jpiniero]

Yeah, that's the funny thing. Intel knew exactly what they were doing with the Pentium AA. Fast enough to entice people who may have bought instead the 760K, but crippled enough that those people will have to buy an Intel Quad eventually. So they get paid twice when their customers could have spent a little more on an i3 or i5 now and not wasted $70.

 

[lyssword]

How is that working out for Inquisition or Far Cry 4? Is it smooth and stutter free? You obviously won't go near 60FPS, is 30FPS even achievable at 1080p without maximum ugly settings? Will it hold up for GTA V or Witcher 3? Compromises again.

I didn't get the chance to play farcry 4 with all the talk how it doesnt run on DualC. However, Ryze a "next-gen-heavily MT" game ran pretty smooth on my setup. Maybe I just don't notice "stutter" or whatever you're talking about when gaming,I am too focused on action or something. Maybe I'm one of those people who don't notice FPS dips as much, as I am used to playing RTS online, but I was obviously able to play these new games and had fun doing it. Maybe one of these days when I get extra $, sell my g3258 and buy the i5 or i7

 

[lyssword]

Yeah, that's the funny thing. Intel knew exactly what they were doing with the Pentium AA. Fast enough to entice people who may have bought instead the 760K, but crippled enough that those people will have to buy an Intel Quad eventually. So they get paid twice when their customers could have spent a little more on an i3 or i5 now and not wasted $70.

Or, if you look in a positive light, wasted $20 to use a pretty decent cpu for a year or more. If you go by ebay prices these are still $60+. Also, at the time when I was buying this cpu, there were no good i3's for $120, they were $140-150, and fx8320 wasn't this cheap + needed a new mobo socket/powersupply.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Yeah, that's the funny thing. Intel knew exactly what they were doing with the Pentium AA. Fast enough to entice people who may have bought instead the 760K, but crippled enough that those people will have to buy an Intel Quad eventually. So they get paid twice when their customers could have spent a little more on an i3 or i5 now and not wasted $70.

What changed since the G3258 was released? We are down to 1 game left with the new "quadcore" requirement. And I doubt they last long before its fixed.