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TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
The movie was awesome. If you didn't like it, it's just because you secretly wanted a happy Hollywood ending with the good guys winning and the bad guys dead or in jail.

I disagree. I enjoy the movie for the most part, Chigurh was an incredibly fun and interesting character that was well acted. I thought he was the most interesting part of the movie. Cinematography was great, and most of the acting was great as well. Plot was very meh. Pretentiousness is what makes this movie "one of the best I've ever seen in X years" though. There are numerous indie movies that don't differ much in theme/acting/style that come out every year but usually go unnoticed, but this is a big Hollywood picture with popular directors/writers that still has the indie vibe - so people ate it up. The movie was definitely good, I enjoyed it quite a bit, but I just don't think I'd go as far as to say that it was "one of the best movies of the last x years."
 

Muadib

Lifer
May 30, 2000
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Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: rockyct
Originally posted by: panipoori
there have been 10 million threads about this, why make another one

Really. Some people loved it, some people hated it, some peope thought "meh." Unless you have some new insight, there's no point making a new thread about it.

Apparently those 10 million other threads did not include the movie title in their topic

No, you just don't know how to search....:p

You are right about the ending though. It sucked.

Your linking is worse than his searching.
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Jadow

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I was halfway drunk when I watched it, but did anyone ever get the money? Last place I rememeber seeing it was when Brolin tossed it into the field.
 

Jschmuck2

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No - you're just too stupid to get it. I hear the next Larry the Cable Guy movie will be out soon.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
No - you're just too stupid to get it. I hear the next Larry the Cable Guy movie will be out soon.

I've heard a lot of people say that you have to "get" this movie to appreciate it. (This is essentially the argument I've heard used against anyone who didn't like it) I'm wondering what was so mind blowing about it that was hard to get? Like I said earlier in the thread, I really enjoyed this movie, but I didn't think it was a top movie of the last few years. You've got a nihilistic assassin and an out of time sheriff as the two "most complicated" parts of the movie .. I just don't see how that's too difficult. Interesting characters, but I don't think it takes a Mensa membership to appropriately determine whether or not you like the movie.
 

Chiropteran

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Nov 14, 2003
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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
The movie was awesome. If you didn't like it, it's just because you secretly wanted a happy Hollywood ending with the good guys winning and the bad guys dead or in jail.

I disagree. I enjoy the movie for the most part, Chigurh was an incredibly fun and interesting character that was well acted. I thought he was the most interesting part of the movie. Cinematography was great, and most of the acting was great as well. Plot was very meh. Pretentiousness is what makes this movie "one of the best I've ever seen in X years" though. There are numerous indie movies that don't differ much in theme/acting/style that come out every year but usually go unnoticed, but this is a big Hollywood picture with popular directors/writers that still has the indie vibe - so people ate it up. The movie was definitely good, I enjoyed it quite a bit, but I just don't think I'd go as far as to say that it was "one of the best movies of the last x years."

Oh, I agree that it's not "one of the best movies of the last x years.", but I don't see why that disqualifies it from being an awesome movie.

My post was mainly directed at all the people who said they liked it except for the ending. The ending was perfect.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
The movie was awesome. If you didn't like it, it's just because you secretly wanted a happy Hollywood ending with the good guys winning and the bad guys dead or in jail.

I disagree. I enjoy the movie for the most part, Chigurh was an incredibly fun and interesting character that was well acted. I thought he was the most interesting part of the movie. Cinematography was great, and most of the acting was great as well. Plot was very meh. Pretentiousness is what makes this movie "one of the best I've ever seen in X years" though. There are numerous indie movies that don't differ much in theme/acting/style that come out every year but usually go unnoticed, but this is a big Hollywood picture with popular directors/writers that still has the indie vibe - so people ate it up. The movie was definitely good, I enjoyed it quite a bit, but I just don't think I'd go as far as to say that it was "one of the best movies of the last x years."

Oh, I agree that it's not "one of the best movies of the last x years.", but I don't see why that disqualifies it from being an awesome movie.

My post was mainly directed at all the people who said they liked it except for the ending. The ending was perfect.

Agreed!
 

AstroManLuca

Lifer
Jun 24, 2004
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I thought it was meh. A lot of pointless violence, and it seemed to try to convey some sort of a "message" when that wasn't necessary. And I didn't think the message it was trying to convey was very interesting or relevant, nor was it presented particularly well.

Basically I saw it as being sort of a combination of an action movie and a sort of philosophical drama, but leaving out the best parts of each. It wasn't really a bad movie, but it didn't appeal to me because I don't like movies that try to be too deep, and I also don't like excessively violent movies, and this one was both.
 

Descartes

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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I read the book after I saw the movie, and I must say much of the details are clearer in the book. Granted, the writing is abstruse at times, but the ending now makes sense. I was severely disappointed by the ending when I first saw the movie.

Overall, NCFOM was one of the better movies I've seen in years, but I can't fully articulate why. I like movies that focus on character development, and I believe the movie did a nice job with it.
 

Deeko

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Jun 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
The movie was awesome. If you didn't like it, it's just because you secretly wanted a happy Hollywood ending with the good guys winning and the bad guys dead or in jail.

That has nothing to do with it. I'm not bothered by the abrupt ending, either. It's the entire last half hour that I thought was dumb. the way they killed off the main character was stupid. The sequence about her mom dying was stupid. The car accident was so absurdly predictable. Etc....
 
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Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: rockyct
Originally posted by: panipoori
there have been 10 million threads about this, why make another one

Really. Some people loved it, some people hated it, some peope thought "meh." Unless you have some new insight, there's no point making a new thread about it.

Apparently those 10 million other threads did not include the movie title in their topic

No, you just don't know how to search....:p

You are right about the ending though. It sucked.

Your linking is worse than his searching.
Yeah, it won't let you link a string. It used to, but here, knock yourself out:

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If it doesn't show up in a simple text box search for "no country for old men" then I don't really give a toss how many threads there are.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: JoeFahey
I think those who found the ending awful just do not understand it.

What is not to understand???

People who say thing like that are either pretentious, not thinking, or just stupid. The ending was not that deep or difficult to grasp.
 
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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: JoeFahey
I think those who found the ending awful just do not understand it.

What is not to understand???

People who say thing like that are either pretentious, not thinking, or just stupid. The ending was not that deep or difficult to grasp.

I loved the film but I agree, I can't stand the holier-than-thou attitude of people who think anyone who has a differing opinion on a movie just "doesn't get it".
 

LS21

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Originally posted by: Deeko
That has nothing to do with it. I'm not bothered by the abrupt ending, either. It's the entire last half hour that I thought was dumb. the way they killed off the main character was stupid. The sequence about her mom dying was stupid. The car accident was so absurdly predictable. Etc....

i think youre looking for something thats not there. its not a Crash or Babel or Usual Suspects or Whatever-movie. its not supposed to unfurl wittily. things dont come together nicely like a jigsaw puzzle. the main character isnt a hero - so hes not supposed to defeat chigurh in an epic struggle.

its just about a sociopathic killer who rolls through and kick a lot of ass. just a madman. thats it. the appeal for me is the directing... pretty much perfect.. a lot of scenes were really intense to watch
 

Deeko

Lifer
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Originally posted by: LS21
Originally posted by: Deeko
That has nothing to do with it. I'm not bothered by the abrupt ending, either. It's the entire last half hour that I thought was dumb. the way they killed off the main character was stupid. The sequence about her mom dying was stupid. The car accident was so absurdly predictable. Etc....

i think youre looking for something thats not there. its not a Crash or Babel or Usual Suspects or Whatever-movie. its not supposed to unfurl wittily. things dont come together nicely like a jigsaw puzzle. the main character isnt a hero - so hes not supposed to defeat chigurh in an epic struggle.

its just about a sociopathic killer who rolls through and kick a lot of ass. just a madman. thats it. the appeal for me is the directing... pretty much perfect.. a lot of scenes were really intense to watch

I know that - and the movie was MADE well, I'm assuming they were following the story (I've heard it was pretty tight to the original book), so I gues my beef is more with the author than the filmmakers.
 

LS21

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Originally posted by: Deeko

I know that - and the movie was MADE well, I'm assuming they were following the story (I've heard it was pretty tight to the original book), so I gues my beef is more with the author than the filmmakers.

then i understand your POV
 

pyonir

Lifer
Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Triumph
Anton Chigurh: What's the most you ever lost on a coin toss.
Gas Station Proprietor: Sir?
Anton Chigurh: The most. You ever lost. On a coin toss.
Gas Station Proprietor: I don't know. I couldn't say.
[Chigurh flips a quarter from the change on the counter and covers it with his hand]
Anton Chigurh: Call it.
Gas Station Proprietor: Call it?
Anton Chigurh: Yes.
Gas Station Proprietor: For what?
Anton Chigurh: Just call it.
Gas Station Proprietor: Well, we need to know what we're calling it for here.
Anton Chigurh: You need to call it. I can't call it for you. It wouldn't be fair.
Gas Station Proprietor: I didn't put nothin' up.
Anton Chigurh: Yes, you did. You've been putting it up your whole life you just didn't know it. You know what date is on this coin?
Gas Station Proprietor: No.
Anton Chigurh: 1958. It's been traveling twenty-two years to get here. And now it's here. And it's either heads or tails. And you have to say. Call it.
Gas Station Proprietor: Look, I need to know what I stand to win.
Anton Chigurh: Everything.
Gas Station Proprietor: How's that?
Anton Chigurh: You stand to win everything. Call it.
Gas Station Proprietor: Alright. Heads then.
[Chigurh removes his hand, revealing the coin is indeed heads]
Anton Chigurh: Well done.
[the gas station proprietor nervously takes the quarter with the small pile of change he's apparently won while Chigurh starts out]
Anton Chigurh: Don't put it in your pocket, sir. Don't put it in your pocket. It's your lucky quarter.
Gas Station Proprietor: Where do you want me to put it?
Anton Chigurh: Anywhere not in your pocket. Where it'll get mixed in with the others and become just a coin. Which it is.
[Chigurh leaves and the gas station proprietor stares at him as he walks out]

My favorite scene. One of my favorite scenes of any movie. The casting in the movie was brilliant and that dialogue was awesome.
 

Chiropteran

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Originally posted by: Deeko
The car accident was so absurdly predictable. Etc....

How do you figure?

The bad guy steps outside after maybe killing or not killing the wife. Somehow at this point you suddenly realize he is going to start to drive away, but get hit by another car? What made you predict that?
 

sniperruff

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: Deeko
The car accident was so absurdly predictable. Etc....

How do you figure?

The bad guy steps outside after maybe killing or not killing the wife. Somehow at this point you suddenly realize he is going to start to drive away, but get hit by another car? What made you predict that?

i agree. that crash totally caught me by surprise. i thought he was just going to drive into the sunset.
 

Deeko

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: Deeko
The car accident was so absurdly predictable. Etc....

How do you figure?

The bad guy steps outside after maybe killing or not killing the wife. Somehow at this point you suddenly realize he is going to start to drive away, but get hit by another car? What made you predict that?

As soon as he was in the car, and there was nothing else but him...focused close up on him from the passenger side...that's a cliche movie car accident scene. I knew it was going to happen. I actually figured it would be a character from the movie hitting him, not a random person...but I saw the car accident a mile away.
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: Deeko
The car accident was so absurdly predictable. Etc....

How do you figure?

The bad guy steps outside after maybe killing or not killing the wife. Somehow at this point you suddenly realize he is going to start to drive away, but get hit by another car? What made you predict that?

He did kill her.
 

Chiropteran

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Originally posted by: Deeko

As soon as he was in the car, and there was nothing else but him...focused close up on him from the passenger side...that's a cliche movie car accident scene. I knew it was going to happen. I actually figured it would be a character from the movie hitting him, not a random person...but I saw the car accident a mile away.

So you mean when the car is going through the the intersection and you hear skidding tires, you "predicted" he would be hit? It's not much of a prediction when the thing you are predicting has already started happening...

I mean, I see what you are saying. But usually when people complain about a movie being predictable, it's because you knew who the secret murderer was from 10 minutes into the movie, or you knew the wife was cheating on her husband 30 minutes before it was revealed. "Predicting" something that occurs as part of the same scene isn't the same thing at all, in many movies that is done intentionally, it's allusion, the scene builds up towards the event and yes you realize what is going to happen before it happens because that is the director's intention. It's like complaining that Star Wars is predictable because when you see Obi Wan put down his light saber and Darth Vader starts to swing you just know Obi Wan is going to die.

That is not the same thing as being predictable like the Joker escaping from jail, or predicting that the tiger that the hero of 10k BC saves is going to come back and help him later, or that somehow the smart janitor in Good Will Hunting is going to be discovered as a brilliant Mathematician. Those movies are predictable in a general sense, you realize something is going to happen long before it occurs.