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Deeko

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What? Now you're obviously exaggerating what I'm saying. Of course I couldn't predict he was going to get hit by a car before he got in it - but as soon as he DID, I could tell it was going to happen. Obviously it was supposed to be shocking since you couldn't see the car coming - but the entire time he was in the car I was thinking "ok here it comes, wheres the car, I wonder who the driver will be" - there was no shock.
 

JetBlack69

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Sep 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: Deeko

As soon as he was in the car, and there was nothing else but him...focused close up on him from the passenger side...that's a cliche movie car accident scene. I knew it was going to happen. I actually figured it would be a character from the movie hitting him, not a random person...but I saw the car accident a mile away.

So you mean when the car is going through the the intersection and you hear skidding tires, you "predicted" he would be hit? It's not much of a prediction when the thing you are predicting has already started happening...

I mean, I see what you are saying. But usually when people complain about a movie being predictable, it's because you knew who the secret murderer was from 10 minutes into the movie, or you knew the wife was cheating on her husband 30 minutes before it was revealed. "Predicting" something that occurs as part of the same scene isn't the same thing at all, in many movies that is done intentionally, it's allusion, the scene builds up towards the event and yes you realize what is going to happen before it happens because that is the director's intention. It's like complaining that Star Wars is predictable because when you see Obi Wan put down his light saber and Darth Vader starts to swing you just know Obi Wan is going to die.

That is not the same thing as being predictable like the Joker escaping from jail, or predicting that the tiger that the hero of 10k BC saves is going to come back and help him later, or that somehow the smart janitor in Good Will Hunting is going to be discovered as a brilliant Mathematician. Those movies are predictable in a general sense, you realize something is going to happen long before it occurs.

I think Deeko is speaking about the cinematography (specifically the framing and placement of the camera) as Anton Chigurh is driving away from the house. It is a typical way of framing the scene of a car crash in movies. He probably didn't predict it 5 minutes before, but probably a few seconds, and I picked up on the same thing when I watched it too.

edit: Beaten by Deeko :p
 

Deeko

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Jun 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: JetBlack69

I think Deeko is speaking about the cinematography (specifically the framing and placement of the camera) as Anton Chigurh is driving away from the house. It is a typical way of framing the scene of a car crash in movies. He probably didn't predict it 5 minutes before, but probably a few seconds, and I picked up on the same thing when I watched it too.

Yes, you explained it better than me. Thanks.
 

zoiks

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I just saw the movie for the first time. I hope to god the movie is non-fiction otherwise its a pretty stupid movie. The movie was well made no doubt, but it seems that while the movie was rolling along, some dumbass concocted some absurd random events to bring the movie to a sudden stop. I mean, the guy went through a green light just to be T-boned by another car? Gee, what are chances of that happening to a psychopathic killer. Besides that, I thought that Tommy Lee Jones and Woody Harrelson both played pretty meaningless characters. Its as if the movie would've survived just fine without those characters in it. I understand that every movie doesn't have to have a nice, justifiable or even predictable ending to it. But the sequence of events that led to the ending was pretty stupid in my opinion.
 

geno

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Originally posted by: LS21
its just about a sociopathic killer who rolls through and kick a lot of ass. just a madman. thats it. the appeal for me is the directing... pretty much perfect.. a lot of scenes were really intense to watch
Absolutely. I watched it with the lights off and I was just glued to the TV. The opening scene was insane and instantly drew me in. The 'quarter' scene above had me tense and anxious, and having nothing come of it was actually a relief rather than a letdown. It was just that crazy of a movie, I loved it.

 

geno

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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
The bad guy steps outside after maybe killing or not killing the wife.

He killed her, that's why he was checking his shoe for blood just after leaving the house.
 

Pheran

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Apr 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Deeko
The last half hour of this movie was absolutely awful.

That is all

I agree. It started out as such a promising movie with a great villain. It started going downhill about 2/3 of the way in, and the ending SUCKED.

Message to film directors: Stop making trash just because you think it is "arty".
 

Descartes

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Pheran
Originally posted by: Deeko
The last half hour of this movie was absolutely awful.

That is all

I agree. It started out as such a promising movie with a great villain. It started going downhill about 2/3 of the way in, and the ending SUCKED.

Message to film directors: Stop making trash just because you think it is "arty".

Message to you: The film is based on a book, and this is how the book was written. It has nothing to do with being "arty." If anything, the book is even worse in this respect; the film makers made a decent attempt at clearing everything up.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
The bad guy steps outside after maybe killing or not killing the wife.

He killed her, that's why he was checking his shoe for blood just after leaving the house.

I realize that it made cinematic sense to do that - but if this guy is as good at what he does as he is, I'd think he'd have done that inside before leaving a trail of blood to the door, don't you?
 

DomS

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yeah, once a swimming pool makes an appearance the movie just falls apart.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Pheran
Originally posted by: Deeko
The last half hour of this movie was absolutely awful.

That is all

I agree. It started out as such a promising movie with a great villain. It started going downhill about 2/3 of the way in, and the ending SUCKED.

Message to film directors: Stop making trash just because you think it is "arty".

Message to you: The film is based on a book, and this is how the book was written. It has nothing to do with being "arty." If anything, the book is even worse in this respect; the film makers made a decent attempt at clearing everything up.

well then the book sucked. its hardly an excuse.
 

CKent

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It wasn't the best film ever made, but that's no reason to bash a solid 8/10. Unless you're just crying out for attention, I guess.