No children of lesbians accepted here...

[Brovane]

I love how they Catholic church picks and chooses. I wonder how many divorced parents are also sending there children to the same school?

 

[PokerGuy]

Not surprisingly, this turned into a religion-bashing thread. Bottom line, they are entitled to their religious beliefs, and people are welcome to agree or disagree with those beliefs.... but don't whine when you disagree with the beliefs and they keep you out of their little club for it.

 

[zsdersw]

Not surprisingly, this turned into a religion-bashing thread.

So?

Bottom line, they are entitled to their religious beliefs, and people are welcome to agree or disagree with those beliefs.... but don't whine when you disagree with the beliefs and they keep you out of their little club for it.

No one was suggesting otherwise.

 

[PokerGuy]

I love how they Catholic church picks and chooses. I wonder how many divorced parents are also sending there children to the same school?

They can pick and choose, that's their right. If someone doesn't like it, they don't have to be there. Duh.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Religion is a creation of man. As such, it is subject to all of man's faults, so yes it is a problem with religion. Organized religion is the logical (and far too often catastrophic) conclusion of it being subject to those faults. Organized religion needs money, needs to recruit and retain members, seeks political power and influence, and must protect itself.

Using your rationale...how is organized religion any different than politics?

 

[PokerGuy]

So?



No one was suggesting otherwise.

Yet there is whining by both the couple referenced in the article and by others.

 

[zsdersw]

Using your rationale...how is organized religion any different than politics?

It is not.

 

[zsdersw]

Yet there is whining by both the couple referenced in the article and by others.

There's always whining by someone because of something.

 

[nageov3t]

Yet there is whining by both the couple referenced in the article and by others.

just because it's legal doesn't mean it's moral or right for the church to do it.

 

[Munky]

The surveys were conducted by the University of Miami, not of the University of Miami.

But, if you want more evidence:

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=188099&catid=3

and

http://www.gallup.com/poll/7087/Congregational-Membership-Decline.aspx

Both of those articles contradict themselves. Claims such as "Congregational Membership on the Decline" and "Fewer people are claiming a religion" are just pure bullsh!t, when their actual findings suggest -

"Evangelical Protestant congregations on the other hand, grew during this period," and
"You do see more people moving more to non-denominational churches that don't identify necessarily with a denomination, versus a religion."

So you basically have people moving from one church to another one. Not in any way suggesting that religion on the whole is on the decline.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

It is not.

Some think otherwise. Some can distinguish between what is good and what is not good before stroking a broad brush over both...and, for whatever reason, there are some who can't fathom the difference.

 

[PokerGuy]

just because it's legal doesn't mean it's moral or right for the church to do it.

They get to decide what is moral or right for them, not you. Move on folks, nothing to see here, just a media story trying to vilify anyone who doesn't buy into their liberal agenda.

 

[nageov3t]

They get to decide what is moral or right for them, not you. Move on folks, nothing to see here, just a media story trying to vilify anyone who doesn't buy into their liberal agenda.

who is the "they" anyways?

I went to catholic school... I had muslim, hindu, protestant, gay, etc, etc classmates and in a thousand years I can't imagine the school administration kicking someone out because of it.

 

[PokerGuy]

who is the "they" anyways?

They being the archdiocese of Denver, CO, running the Catholic school in Boulder.

 

[werepossum]

You did not include necessary information for me to form an opinion. How hot are these lesbians, #1 being Portia de Rossi and #10 being Rosie O'Donnell?

 

[zsdersw]

Some think otherwise.

They have as much of a right to be wrong as anyone else.

Some can distinguish between what is good and what is not good before stroking a broad brush over both...and, for whatever reason, there are some who can't fathom the difference.

And some can see the forest for the trees, and some cannot.

 

[zsdersw]

Both of those articles contradict themselves. Claims such as "Congregational Membership on the Decline" and "Fewer people are claiming a religion" are just pure bullsh!t, when their actual findings suggest -

"Evangelical Protestant congregations on the other hand, grew during this period," and
"You do see more people moving more to non-denominational churches that don't identify necessarily with a denomination, versus a religion."

So you basically have people moving from one church to another one. Not in any way suggesting that religion on the whole is on the decline.

You're neglecting significant portions from the articles:

"A new survey by Trinity College shows that within 20 years, a quarter of Americans will claim no religious affiliation. "

and

"Overall, comparisons between the Census data and statistics on religion indicate that:

> While organized religion did see increases in the past decade, the overall result was a decline in the percentage of the population that claims adherence to a particular religion.

> The number of "unchurched" -- or those who do not belong to a particular faith community -- increased during the decade."

 

[Kadarin]

Not surprisingly, this turned into a religion-bashing thread. Bottom line, they are entitled to their religious beliefs, and people are welcome to agree or disagree with those beliefs.... but don't whine when you disagree with the beliefs and they keep you out of their little club for it.

Irony is when the beliefs of the Catholic Church aren't very Christian...

 

[PokerGuy]

Irony is when the beliefs of the Catholic Church aren't very Christian...

Not very Christian according to whom? To them, they are in accordance with the teachings of the church and perfectly Christian.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Does that apply to individuals too? So the leeches of the system should be held to a different standard than the payers?

If you are a non profit and you are exempt from paying income tax, you are subsidized by the public. If you are government subsidized, then you shouldn't be able to discriminate.


If you are a non profit and you pay income tax, then you are not subsidized by the public. If that is the case, then you should be free to exclude people at your disclosure.


This doesn't make sense when applying it to individuals. I just don't like to see "private clubs" that are exclusive to certain people with certain beliefs or backgrounds getting by without paying their share of taxes.
I think all individuals should pay taxes as well. Those with more income should pay a greater share of taxes than those with less income, but even the poor person on minimum wage should pay something, even if it is a "trivial" by comparison amount to those who are better off...

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

And some can see the forest for the trees, and some cannot.

So true....which is my point.

 

[zsdersw]

So true....which is my point.

In this case, the forest is death.. and few living trees.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

In this case, the forest is death.. and few living trees.

Is that what you see? That's interesting...I see the opposite. There's a deep-seated misunderstanding with you...hope you get it figured out someday. FYI...on the outside chance God exists...He is not your enemy.

 

[zsdersw]

Is that what you see? That's interesting...I see the opposite. There's a deep-seated misunderstanding with you...hope you get it figured out someday. FYI...on the outside chance God exists...He is not your enemy.

This isn't about "God" or people's belief in a higher being/power/truth. It's about the man-made apparatus by and through which these beliefs are codified into a set of absolute rights/absolute wrongs and proselytized that is the problem and the source of many other problems.

Spirituality is a good thing. Religion is not.

 

[Double Trouble]

Spirituality is a good thing. Religion is not.

As determined by...... you?