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NK planning a 3rd nuclear test

Modelworks

Modelworks

Lifer


snipped info I provided based on tv. Link now up.


I think NK has a death wish.


Link:
http://www.foxnews.com/politic...tion-new-nuclear-test/

U.S. intelligence officials have warned President Obama and other senior American officials that North Korea intends to respond to the passage of a U.N. Security Council resolution this week -- condemning the communist country for its recent nuclear and ballistic missile tests -- with another nuclear test, FOX News has learned.

What's more, Pyongyang's next nuclear detonation is but one of four planned actions the Central Intelligence Agency has learned, through sources inside North Korea, that the regime of Kim Jong-Il intends to take -- but not announce -- once the Security Council resolution is officially passed, likely on Friday.

The other three actions include the reprocessing of all of the North's spent plutonium fuel rods into weapons-grade plutonium; a major escalation in the North's uranium-enrichment program; and the launching of another Taepodong-2 intercontinental ballistic missile from the Yunsong military complex on the west coast of North Korea. The North last launched a Taepodong-2 on April 5; it conducted its second nuclear test in the last three years on Memorial Day.

The intelligence community only learned of North Korea's plans this week, prompting CIA to alert senior officials. Asked who would be briefed on this kind of data, a source told FOX News: "The top people: POTUS, DNI." "POTUS" is acronym for the president of the United States; "DNI" refers to the director of the Office of National Intelligence.

FOX News is withholding some details about the sources and methods by which American intelligence agencies learned of the North's plans so as to avoid compromising sensitive overseas operations in a country -- North Korea -- U.S. spymasters regard as one of the world's most difficult to penetrate.

A White House official, contacted by FOX News, declined to comment, saying only that the U.S. government never speaks publicly about intelligence matters.

As top Obama administration officials weigh this prized data and what actions they might take to counter North Korea's plans for a third nuclear test, American intelligence analysts have also encountered setback in their efforts to track developments in the reclusive Stalinist country.

Where U.S. officials had observed the arrival of the first-stage transporter for a Taepodong-2 at Yunsong by June 2, leading to predictions of an imminent launch by officials as high-ranking as Defense Secretary Robert Gates, sources now tell FOX News they see no significant activity consistent with an imminent launch.

"The TD-2 activity has been rather dormant," one source said.

As well, where American intelligence officials on June 9 observed components for the long-range Musudan missile leaving the Wapo-ri installation area, they have now "lost track of them," FOX News has learned.

"We spotted the TELs [Transporter-Erector-Launchers] and then we lost track of them," a source said. "NGA lost track."

NGA refers to the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, a unit the Defense Department that provides imagery and geospatial information for military and civilian purposes.

"It's disturbing," the source added.

As well, despite multiple tests, U.S. scientists have only reached inconclusive results in their efforts to use air samplings collected over the Korean Peninsula in the days after the Memorial Day detonation to confirm with 100 percent certainty that North Korea conducted a nuclear test, as is still widely believed.
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NK is almost as much of an attention whore as Dezign, Tomato or whatever the hell she calls herself these days.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Maybe it will deonate early and take their scientists with it.
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They are down a couple scientists from Operation Orchard. A couple more wouldn't hurt. :thumbsup:


I really hope China takes care of this. And I dont mean with force. They arent about to physically damage a Red utopia.
 
I don't think they have a death wish, but I do think that they are starting to get desperate.
I looks as if Hillary and Obama are not going to roll over on simple promises as Clinton and Bush did.
 
"We spotted the TELs [Transporter-Erector-Launchers] and then we lost track of them," a source said. "NGA lost track."

NGA refers to the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, a unit the Defense Department that provides imagery and geospatial information for military and civilian purposes.
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How did they move them without the satellite seeing ? Guess they move them PDQ.
 
Originally posted by: Modelworks
"We spotted the TELs [Transporter-Erector-Launchers] and then we lost track of them," a source said. "NGA lost track."

NGA refers to the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, a unit the Defense Department that provides imagery and geospatial information for military and civilian purposes.
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How did they move them without the satellite seeing ? Guess they move them PDQ.
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Satellite movements can be predicted. Is there a satellite or satellites watching NKorea 24/7?
 
Let's all keep passing resolutions, they'll eventually burn up all their nuclear material!

Really, though, this is so damn predictable and no surprise to anybody. It's obvious now that NK is intent on increasing the lethality of their arsenal. Should they be left to do that or wait? Gangrene should be dealt with earlier than later, right? They need Airwolf.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Let's all keep passing resolutions, they'll eventually burn up all their nuclear material!

Really, though, this is so damn predictable and no surprise to anybody. It's obvious now that NK is intent on increasing the lethality of their arsenal. Should they be left to do that or wait? Gangrene should be dealt with earlier than later, right? They need Airwolf.
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Airwolf or starve them out.
 
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: Modelworks
"We spotted the TELs [Transporter-Erector-Launchers] and then we lost track of them," a source said. "NGA lost track."

NGA refers to the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, a unit the Defense Department that provides imagery and geospatial information for military and civilian purposes.
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How did they move them without the satellite seeing ? Guess they move them PDQ.
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Satellite movements can be predicted. Is there a satellite or satellites watching NKorea 24/7?
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I would hope that some country has a satellite in stationary orbit over the area. We have them for Iraq.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Let's all keep passing resolutions, they'll eventually burn up all their nuclear material!

Really, though, this is so damn predictable and no surprise to anybody. It's obvious now that NK is intent on increasing the lethality of their arsenal. Should they be left to do that or wait? Gangrene should be dealt with earlier than later, right? They need Airwolf.
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Good point. Unless Russia/China are still supplying them with nuclear material (which wouldn't surprise me), then all these tests will deplete their supply. If they are supplying them still, then they have some explaining to do, not that we could stop them anyway.

NK is just throwing a hissyfit is all. I expect more of this in our future until they finally use all those artillery tubes aimed at SK.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
nk is so far north a geostationary satellite may not be able to see much.
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Is that like how Creig, Phokus, and jpeyton are so far left, no one wants to see them?
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
nk is so far north a geostationary satellite may not be able to see much.
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I REALLY don't think geostationary satellites are used for spying. Geosync orbit is like 80000 km up.
 
More and more attention.
They are trying SK patience with the labor issue for the DMZ factories.

They are not getting much attention on the June missle launches - the Sanction paperwork is progressing.

This is causing the scales to be tipping away from them - they need it the otherway - helps to drum up support for the party and the coming transition
 
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: ElFenix
nk is so far north a geostationary satellite may not be able to see much.
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I REALLY don't think geostationary satellites are used for spying. Geosync orbit is like 80000 km up.
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It's true. You can't really get the resolution from GEO orbit to identify objects like the TEL. These are definately DOD spy satellites in polar or LEO orbit.
 
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: ElFenix
nk is so far north a geostationary satellite may not be able to see much.
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I REALLY don't think geostationary satellites are used for spying. Geosync orbit is like 80000 km up.
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that too, though i'm not sure that plays into it as much as the fact that you can really only look down on a relatively small part of the world that probably doesn't include where the commies hid their missiles. sure, the lens design would be more complicated for that far away.
 
All this shows how desperate Bush was last year to sign an agreement as some sort of positive legacy of his Administration. It also shows that Obama is not going to play ball so that Kim can leave his successor with a new gift.
 
Originally posted by: Modelworks

Topic Title: NK planning a 3rd nuclear test
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Kim Jong Il is one bat shit MF so it wouldn't suprise me, but I'll believe it when I see it on a source more credible than a Faux Noise "exclusive."
 
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Let's all keep passing resolutions, they'll eventually burn up all their nuclear material!

Really, though, this is so damn predictable and no surprise to anybody. It's obvious now that NK is intent on increasing the lethality of their arsenal. Should they be left to do that or wait? Gangrene should be dealt with earlier than later, right? They need Airwolf.
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Good point. Unless Russia/China are still supplying them with nuclear material (which wouldn't surprise me), then all these tests will deplete their supply. If they are supplying them still, then they have some explaining to do, not that we could stop them anyway.

NK is just throwing a hissyfit is all. I expect more of this in our future until they finally use all those artillery tubes aimed at SK.
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It's not the Russians/Chinese but the U.S.'s most important "Ally on Terror" that supplied nuke know how to the North Koreans:

Pakistan 'helped N Korea go nuclear'

American intelligence officials say that Pakistan was a major supplier of critical equipment for North Korea's nuclear weapons programme, according to US newspaper reports.
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The Americans said that North Korea was trying to obtain large quantities of high-strength aluminium for centrifuges that are used to enrich uranium to provide bomb-making material.

Key components

The Americans suspect that Pakistan has given North Korea critical help here - perhaps even the gas centrifuges themselves.
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So, just curious, to all of you out thereadvocating we take a harsher stance with NK/Iran, which of you plans to enlist if we do?


 
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