NK planning a 3rd nuclear test

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Carmen813
So, just curious, to all of you out there advocating we take a harsher stance with NK/Iran, which of you plans to enlist if we do?

Obama doesn't want me to serve in the military.

 

[tvarad]

I think the fundamental issue here is that the U.S. cannot be the world's policeman. It was OK until the Cold War ended but, after that, it is disingenuous to assume that the U.S. can tell countries like China, Japan, S.Korea and Western European countries what to do security-wise given that they have the resources to mount defenses on their own.

And now that the war on Communism is over, there's no more Soviet Union, China's economic fortunes so closely tied with the U.S.'s, and S. Korea and Japan's are quite rich, why is it that the U.S. not telling them to shoulder more of the world's security burdens? These countries are very happy that the U.S. is the only nail that is sticking out and every two-bit dictator and terrorist (often as surrogate) wants to have a whack at it. There needs to be a total re-think on this issue and candid talks with the Chinese, S. Koreans and Japanese and leave it to them to fix N. Korea. The U.S. should take a secondary role in this particular issue.

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: tvarad
I think the fundamental issue here is that the U.S. cannot be the world's policeman. It was OK until the Cold War ended but, after that, it is disingenuous to assume that the U.S. can tell countries like China, Japan, S.Korea and Western European countries what to do security-wise given that they have the resources to mount defenses on their own.

And now that the war on Communism is over, there's no more Soviet Union, China's economic fortunes so closely tied with the U.S.'s, and S. Korea and Japan's are quite rich, why is it that the U.S. not telling them to shoulder more of the world's security burdens? These countries are very happy that the U.S. is the only nail that is sticking out and every two-bit dictator and terrorist (often as surrogate) wants to have a whack at it. There needs to be a total re-think on this issue and candid talks with the Chinese, S. Koreans and Japanese and leave it to them to fix N. Korea. The U.S. should take a secondary role in this particular issue.

So no more Free Tibet bumper stickers? No more Darfur marches?

 

[tvarad]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: tvarad
I think the fundamental issue here is that the U.S. cannot be the world's policeman. It was OK until the Cold War ended but, after that, it is disingenuous to assume that the U.S. can tell countries like China, Japan, S.Korea and Western European countries what to do security-wise given that they have the resources to mount defenses on their own.

And now that the war on Communism is over, there's no more Soviet Union, China's economic fortunes so closely tied with the U.S.'s, and S. Korea and Japan's are quite rich, why is it that the U.S. not telling them to shoulder more of the world's security burdens? These countries are very happy that the U.S. is the only nail that is sticking out and every two-bit dictator and terrorist (often as surrogate) wants to have a whack at it. There needs to be a total re-think on this issue and candid talks with the Chinese, S. Koreans and Japanese and leave it to them to fix N. Korea. The U.S. should take a secondary role in this particular issue.

So no more Free Tibet bumper stickers? No more Darfur marches?

Doesn't the U.S. have enough problems of it's own that need urgent attention? If there's one problem that is someone else's headache, it is N. Korea. The Chinese, South Koreans and Japanese are the most affected by it; the U.S. the least. Let them solve it.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: loki8481
don't worry, this is the time that sanctions and a strongly worded letter will actually work.

Every time there is a NK thread you post that.

Is it a NK macro?? Have you been taking lessons from Harvey?

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Dari
All this shows how desperate Bush was last year to sign an agreement as some sort of positive legacy of his Administration. It also shows that Obama is not going to play ball so that Kim can leave his successor with a new gift.

Say what???

You guys bitched endlessly about how Bush did nothing and how Obama was going to talk to everyone.

And now you are complaining that Bush talked to someone and that Obama is doing nothing??

Make up you F'in mind.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: loki8481
don't worry, this is the time that sanctions and a strongly worded letter will actually work.

Every time there is a NK thread you post that.

Is it a NK macro?? Have you been taking lessons from Harvey?

every time there's a NK problem, the world governments react the same way and get the same results.

I'll change my macro when the government changes theirs.

 

[WHAMPOM]

NK face saving, using conventional explosives salted with radioactive materials to fake a nuclear bomb blast. Gotta' lotta' faith in news outa' NK, land of the small penis syndrome.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: loki8481
don't worry, this is the time that sanctions and a strongly worded letter will actually work.

Loki, Loki, unless sanctions actually hurt the ones in power (South Africa), it has the opposite reaction from the population.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Carmen813
So, just curious, to all of you out there advocating we take a harsher stance with NK/Iran, which of you plans to enlist if we do?

Obama doesn't want me to serve in the military.

Loki! If you enlist he might write you a letter saying how he feels bad.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: Patranus
All the while congress spend the day waging a war on cigarettes.

Oh I guess you missed the Reuters report that they are working with Iran on missiles. Good times.
http://www.reuters.com/article.../idUSTRE55A4E720090611

Yeah we know where our politicians priorities are at: the pocketbook.