Nintendo to unveil next console at E3 next May. **UPDATE: NO new console at E3, yet something entirely different.....

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Gamespot link.

Also according to the article, Nintendo said they plan/hope on releasing their new console within the next fiscal year in Japan, and a worldwide, simultaneous launch would be ideal. What does that mean? It means we could very well have Nintendo's next console in our hands before Star Wars: Episode III hits theatres.

Nintendo's current fiscal year ends March of 2004. Their next fiscal year runs from April 2004 to March 2005. I, for one, do not see it coming out that quick, and don't think we'll see it till around August or September of 2005. Here's hoping they sell a lot of these things, because if they don't, Nintendo will definitely stop their hardware business.

EDIT: NEW Gamespot article

Looks as if someone got their info screwed up, and it is not going to be a new console. Of course, Nintendo is not saying what it will be, but it's something entirely new that they hope to release within the next year.

 

[RagingBITCH]

That seems WAY too early, since Sony/MS consoles aren't even due to be launched until (probably) 05 sometime. They'd pull a Dreamcast and in return, be forced to get out of the hardware business.

 

[Francodman]

If it's backward compatible :

If it's not:

 

[opticalmace]

it'll be way too early
they're going to get trounced if this is true, which i suspect it won't be...

 

[Anubis]

well it its backwards compat and it has amazing capabilities and great launch titles along wiuth good games comming out to support it then that will get the jump on things and kick some ass. like PS2 did it came out a year before Xbox and GC

 

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
That seems WAY too early, since Sony/MS consoles aren't even due to be launched until (probably) 05 sometime. They'd pull a Dreamcast and in return, be forced to get out of the hardware business.

Well, Nintendo is dead-set on being the first out of the gate. Given their simplicity in doing things, I don't doubt they'll achieve this goal.

Microsoft has stated over and over that they'll be right there when Sony releases the PS3. Although, Sony has made comments now that they do not mind being the last to market with the next generation of consoles, and it will probably end up that way.

My guesstimates based on what I've heard (all reliable sources, I don't believe what just anyone says ):

- Nintendo ?- release mid 2005
- Microsoft XBOX2 - release late 2005
- Sony PS3 - release early to mid 2006

Although Sony has went on record saying they will be probably be the last out of the gate, I don't honestly think they'll willing let Microsoft release their next console first. Neither M$ or Sony are worried about Nintendo, and that's why Nintendo has the advantage IMO.

 

[BigSmooth]

Originally posted by: Francodman
If it's backward compatible :

If it's not:

I think it should be backwards-compatible with all Nintendo products to date. NES, SNES, N64, GC, GB, GBA, even the Virtual Boy, dammit!

 

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Originally posted by: BigSmooth

Originally posted by: Francodman
If it's backward compatible :

If it's not:

I think it should be backwards-compatible with all Nintendo products to date. NES, SNES, N64, GC, GB, GBA, even the Virtual Boy, dammit!

Virtual Boy!!!!! Whoooohooooo! I remember trying one of those things in Wal-Mart when they came out '95 (?). They were alright, but the all red screen and having to adjust your eyes gave you a headache in 5 minutes.

 

[Glitchny]

However, the company is still sticking to its full year forecast of a 60 billion yen (US$554.3 million) profit, which was announced together with its warning of losses in October.

seems like nintendo isnt going anywhere if they keep making profits. I mean the GC might not be seeling like mad but nintendo isnt losing large amounts of money yet. They arent going anywhere, and this is the first time EVER that they have been in the red, since 1962... i dont think they are leaving the business anytime soon.

However the majority of the losses have been attributed to the company?s huge reserves of cash and property holdings outside of Japan, which have been adversely affected by currency fluctuations.

^^^ Quoted from Gamasutra, and this seems to be the more realistic cause of their money loss

 

[SithSolo1]

I think the GameCube was just filler. The next system should still be powered by ATi so possibly a R420 derivative or something slightly more. I don't see why they couldn't make it back wards compatible since they are using disk now. People usually get the most powerful system on the market, I think this is a good move by Nintendo.

EDIT: I think I clarified my statement a little, sorry for the confusion.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: WoodchuckCharlie

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
That seems WAY too early, since Sony/MS consoles aren't even due to be launched until (probably) 05 sometime. They'd pull a Dreamcast and in return, be forced to get out of the hardware business.

Well, Nintendo is dead-set on being the first out of the gate. Given their simplicity in doing things, I don't doubt they'll achieve this goal.

Microsoft has stated over and over that they'll be right there when Sony releases the PS3. Although, Sony has made comments now that they do not mind being the last to market with the next generation of consoles, and it will probably end up that way.

My guesstimates based on what I've heard (all reliable sources, I don't believe what just anyone says ):

- Nintendo ?- release mid 2005
- Microsoft XBOX2 - release late 2005
- Sony PS3 - release early to mid 2006

Although Sony has went on record saying they will be probably be the last out of the gate, I don't honestly think they'll willing let Microsoft release their next console first. Neither M$ or Sony are worried about Nintendo, and that's why Nintendo has the advantage IMO.

I originally meant if Nintendo planned on launching in 04. The 05 should be a good launch date though. It seems like Sony set a trend by having DVD capability and backwards compatibility, along with MS setting a trend of having a hard drive in a console. I think Nintendo is doomed if they can't guarantee all three in their next gen console. (Same with MS if they can't guarantee backwards compatibility. From the looks of it the PS3 will have all 3)

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: SithSolo1
I think the GameCube was just filler. This is the system they wanted. Powered by ATi so possibly a R420 derivative or something slightly more. I don't see why they couldn't make it back wards compatible since they are using disk now. People usually get the most powerful system on the market, I think this is a good move by Nintendo.

It was probably the system they wanted but even Matsuishita was disappointed with the Gamecube. And what does the rest of your paragraph mean?

 

[SithSolo1]

Ok, I clarified it. If you still need more info PM me.

 

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCHIt seems like Sony set a trend by having DVD capability and backwards compatibility, along with MS setting a trend of having a hard drive in a console. I think Nintendo is doomed if they can't guarantee all three in their next gen console. (Same with MS if they can't guarantee backwards compatibility. From the looks of it the PS3 will have all 3)

One trend you forgot to mention is online. If Nintendo doesn't open their eyes and include an online-ready console, they are definitely digging their own grave in the hardware business.

My list of must-have console features:

- Online ready out of the box for atleast broadband. Online is the future of gaming, and with the success of XBOX Live, it shows that gamers want to get online. It makes no sense to me for any future games to not have some sort of online compatibility (single player RPG's excluded).
- Hard drive. The XBOX has shown how handy a hard drive can be. Basically unlimited saves, downloadable content, and music ripping capabilities for your own soundtracks.
- Backwards capability. Not one of these companies are spending the money on R&D for new formats, so there's no reason to not have this feature in. Sony proved this could be done, and done well.
- I think all consoles should adopt Sony's DualShock Controller . IMO the best controller ever. The analog sticks are perfect, and the analog for the face and shoulder buttons are GREAT.
- 4 controller ports. Microsoft and Nintendo have this down pat, but where is Sony? Multiplayer adapters should've gone the way of the dodo by now.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: SithSolo1
Ok, I clarified it. If you still need more info PM me.

In terms of the most powerful system on the market, we really don't know what the XBox2 or PS3 has up it's sleeve. I don't think it's going to be any more powerful so to speak than the XB2 or PS3, if not weaker since Nintendo is planning on being the first out of the gate.

 

[Atlantean]

Great... another console to buy, won't be available till next christmas though right? Hmm xbox2, ps3 or gc2... (probably won't be called gamecube cause nintendo hasn't done that with any of their previous systems... maybe gamecube advanced)

 

[SithSolo1]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: SithSolo1
Ok, I clarified it. If you still need more info PM me.

In terms of the most powerful system on the market, we really don't know what the XBox2 or PS3 has up it's sleeve. I don't think it's going to be any more powerful so to speak than the XB2 or PS3, if not weaker since Nintendo is planning on being the first out of the gate.

Thats the whole point of being out of the gate first. It WILL be the most powerful system on the market at the time of its release thus almost ensuring that it will have a strong user base when the other two consoles finally hit the market. I figure they may be able to cut the price of the system when the PS3 and XB2 launch.

 

[FrOsTxxbYtE]

i got one, its pretty good

 

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Bump for new info....

The article states it's neither a home console or portable, yet something entirely new......my curiosity has the best of me.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: SithSolo1

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: SithSolo1
Ok, I clarified it. If you still need more info PM me.

In terms of the most powerful system on the market, we really don't know what the XBox2 or PS3 has up it's sleeve. I don't think it's going to be any more powerful so to speak than the XB2 or PS3, if not weaker since Nintendo is planning on being the first out of the gate.

Thats the whole point of being out of the gate first. It WILL be the most powerful system on the market at the time of its release thus almost ensuring that it will have a strong user base when the other two consoles finally hit the market. I figure they may be able to cut the price of the system when the PS3 and XB2 launch.

That doesn't make sense at all. The PS2 launched a year ahead. The next-gen Nintendo console will launch a few months in advance.

 

[Rogue]

If there's one thing that Nintendo has always done well, it's innovate in the gaming world. Think about it. They have always release something for the gaming community that everyone else has adapted their own tech to ever since. Nintendo revolutionized controller design almost single handedly. Granted, maybe they've lost their touch on it over the years, but the N64 controller was revolutionary for a console at the time.

If I had to guess, I'd almost say that this is going to have something to do with projection of the game somehow. A second coming of the Virtual Boy, only far more advanced. Hell, I'd like to see a console with a built in LCD projector of some kind.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: WoodchuckCharlie

Originally posted by: RagingBITCHIt seems like Sony set a trend by having DVD capability and backwards compatibility, along with MS setting a trend of having a hard drive in a console. I think Nintendo is doomed if they can't guarantee all three in their next gen console. (Same with MS if they can't guarantee backwards compatibility. From the looks of it the PS3 will have all 3)

One trend you forgot to mention is online. If Nintendo doesn't open their eyes and include an online-ready console, they are definitely digging their own grave in the hardware business.

My list of must-have console features:

- Online ready out of the box for atleast broadband. Online is the future of gaming, and with the success of XBOX Live, it shows that gamers want to get online. It makes no sense to me for any future games to not have some sort of online compatibility (single player RPG's excluded).
- Hard drive. The XBOX has shown how handy a hard drive can be. Basically unlimited saves, downloadable content, and music ripping capabilities for your own soundtracks.
- Backwards capability. Not one of these companies are spending the money on R&D for new formats, so there's no reason to not have this feature in. Sony proved this could be done, and done well.
- I think all consoles should adopt Sony's DualShock Controller . IMO the best controller ever. The analog sticks are perfect, and the analog for the face and shoulder buttons are GREAT.
- 4 controller ports. Microsoft and Nintendo have this down pat, but where is Sony? Multiplayer adapters should've gone the way of the dodo by now.

Damn I forgot about the online thing. You're right - the multiplayer thing online is the best thing in gaming in a long time. I'm not too fond of the Dualshock controller though - I like the original (non-S) Xbox controller the best. Everyone I personally know with a XBox hates the S-type too.

 

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Damn I forgot about the online thing. You're right - the multiplayer thing online is the best thing in gaming in a long time. I'm not too fond of the Dualshock controller though - I like the original (non-S) Xbox controller the best. Everyone I personally know with a XBox hates the S-type too.

I like the S-controller for the XBOX better, but even then, it's not that great IMO. The Gamecube controller is good, but the Z button is just no good. It needs to be on the underside of the controller like the original.

I don't know, I've just always been partial to the dualshock. Basically, it's simple, and you don't have to think when hitting buttons. Maybe it's just because I've played more PS than I have anything (although I own all 3 consoles), but it just feels right. Thankfully, we've moved past the old original Nintendo controller. .

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: WoodchuckCharlie

Originally posted by: RagingBITCHIt seems like Sony set a trend by having DVD capability and backwards compatibility, along with MS setting a trend of having a hard drive in a console. I think Nintendo is doomed if they can't guarantee all three in their next gen console. (Same with MS if they can't guarantee backwards compatibility. From the looks of it the PS3 will have all 3)

One trend you forgot to mention is online. If Nintendo doesn't open their eyes and include an online-ready console, they are definitely digging their own grave in the hardware business.

My list of must-have console features:

- Online ready out of the box for atleast broadband. Online is the future of gaming, and with the success of XBOX Live, it shows that gamers want to get online. It makes no sense to me for any future games to not have some sort of online compatibility (single player RPG's excluded).
- Hard drive. The XBOX has shown how handy a hard drive can be. Basically unlimited saves, downloadable content, and music ripping capabilities for your own soundtracks.
- Backwards capability. Not one of these companies are spending the money on R&D for new formats, so there's no reason to not have this feature in. Sony proved this could be done, and done well.
- I think all consoles should adopt Sony's DualShock Controller . IMO the best controller ever. The analog sticks are perfect, and the analog for the face and shoulder buttons are GREAT.
- 4 controller ports. Microsoft and Nintendo have this down pat, but where is Sony? Multiplayer adapters should've gone the way of the dodo by now.

That is because the PSX doesn't have 4 controller parts. Kind of putting a new mobo in to your pc without any changes and expecting for it to boot up and work. It mayhave problems. Or sticking something else in to your system that wasn't already their in the first place and having it work iirc.

Hence the 4 port adapters you see for the ps2.

ps2 controllers feel great for me. I guess I'm just so use to it. The GC doesn't look like it would be any good for fighting games. The xbox I haven't spent a lot of time with but it feels alright. Don't like the shape of the 4 buttons though. Ps2 is most comfortable for me.

downloadable xbox stuff to hd. What have you guys d/l that wasn't illegal? Just wondering as I haven't followed stuff on xbox in ages. Can you download new tracks and levels yet? If so in what games. I know that you 'can' but what is actually being used in real life, and not just what can be done.

Koing

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

I like the original (non-S) MX-box controller best. It was designed for people with big hands such as myself. The Sony and Nintendo controllers are friggen tiny, I feel like my hands aren't holding them properly.