speg
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The wheel seems a bit overkill... why not just turn the controller on it's side and use it like that as a steering wheel.
He may be a Playstation fanboy, in which case he'll have long since forgotten what the word "Innovation" means
Jason
Modeps
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The biggest problem I have is that the video they're showing there has nothing to do with actual functionality... it's a 100% concept video. Now, will this controller actually be able to track with accuracy wild movements like the ones shown? I have serious doubts about that.
One thing that is intriguing me though, is that there is a rumor floating around that the system will be $99 at launch. that's a good rumor and for $99, I'll buy it even if I dont play it much.
Finally, yes, nintendo's back catalog will be available but it will not be free.
One thing that is intriguing me though, is that there is a rumor floating around that the system will be $99 at launch. that's a good rumor and for $99, I'll buy it even if I dont play it much.
Finally, yes, nintendo's back catalog will be available but it will not be free.
Queasy
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It's not even a concept video. It's just a bunch of actors non-sensically waving controllers around. Until Nintendo starts to show games and how they work with the controller....I call bullshot.
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Nintendo is saying Spring 2006 launch for Japan and Fall 2006 launch for North America. I'd be pleasantly surprised to see it at $99. I don't think it'll happen though.
speg
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They have shown demo's to the media. No actual games yet, just little pieces of software to demo specific uses that it can be used for. And so far, they've been very postitive reports.
This isn't exactly new tech. I've used mice with similar gyroscopic motion tracking and they seem to work pretty well. I even used one to play Quake2 once. Aiming was pretty easy, but of course it wasn't so good for turning around. The real drawback was that it was TIRING.
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Jzero: it's not based on gyros though. According to 1up, it's based on similar technology that they started with the powerglove... sensors that you have to setup on your TV to determine the orientation of the device to the television...
at least that sounds like it has nothing to do with gyroscopes.
at least that sounds like it has nothing to do with gyroscopes.
If not gyroscopes I don't know what it could be. According to the various reports, you can tilt it up/down/left/right/backward/forward and it is aware of those movements. What else could do that besides a gyroscope?
Also, it's been close to 20 years since the Power Glove, and I think we all know how much technology can advance in such a space of time. More importantly though, PG was an *accessory*, which pretty much doomed it to no support. This is the *standard* controller, which pretty much *guarantees* support, at least from Nintendo and its' closest 2nd party publishers. If they can get enough 3rd parties aboard they might just have *the* hot console of the next generation on their hands.
Jason
Nintendo has yet to show any sign they are planning to appeal to adult gamers again. There are what, like 4 titles on the Gamecube that aren't for kids or on every other system too? Also, they will not support HDTV. Microsoft has Xbox Live and 720p on everything. The PS3 doubles as a Blu-ray player.
Lack of games, inferior technology.
The controller may be good, or it may not. That is irrelevant. If its good, Microsoft and Sony will copy it immediately. It's not like the technology behind it is particularily revolutionary.
And Nintendo will lose, again.
Lack of games, inferior technology.
The controller may be good, or it may not. That is irrelevant. If its good, Microsoft and Sony will copy it immediately. It's not like the technology behind it is particularily revolutionary.
And Nintendo will lose, again.
Here's the text from the 1-up article that Modeps refers to:
"Two small sensors placed near the TV and a chip inside the controller track its position and orientation, allowing the player to manipulate the action on screen by physically moving the controller itself."
Seems like a backwards way to do it. Nonetheless, based on my experiences with Samba De Amigo, Mocap Boxing and Police 911 even this motion sensor technology has become quite effective.
purbeast0
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apparently you have no clue what market Nintendo is going for.
they themselves even admitted that they aren't going to go up against MS or Sony this time around. they are for a completely different audience than MS and Sony.
they are keeping their system very simple minded. i can guarantee you that the (promised by nintendo) $200 or less price tag will make the Revolution go into many MANY more homes than the PS3 come xmas time.
Personally, I'm tired of overcomplicated 30-button controllers. I the apparent return to simplicity, coupled with the price tag, is very appealing to me.
Ugh... I hope it's better than the powerglove. I got it one year for christmas, and not once did I get it to work properly. What a POS.
purbeast0
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i honestly will admit that i was a nintendo hater after i went through 2 gamecubes and was disappointed both times (bought one on launch, sold it ... bought another one when Mario Sunshine came out and sold it a while after playing through zelda), and that i was going to just straight up laugh at the revolution because I again knew i would be disappointed.
i can now honestly say that I'm looking forward more to the revolution than I am the PS3. nintendo's new direction w/the simplicity and price appeals to me. it looks like the revolution will be something my girlfriend will sit down and like to play with me as well, and she hates games.
and for the record, i have owned a ps2 since the release date, so i'm not a sony hater or anything as well.
A few journalists were lucky enough to play Metroid Prime 2 with this controller and were amazed at its accuracy... finally, FPSs will become much more easier to play on consoles!
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Madmalblipblapdawgguy: There is a huge difference between an FPS and what they were showing in that video. People were swinging the controller like a sword or a baseball bat... they wern't pointing and clicking. This could very well be the #1 FPS device for consoles, but I just dont see how the rest of that stuff is going to work in the way they're displaying it.
Oh come off it. Sony and Microsoft, while introducing interesting new machines, are just doing the same damn thing that's been done for the last 10 years in gaming. This is something DIFFERENT, and I for one welcome something innovative to the market. It's clear that neither Sony nor Microsoft want to do anything innovative this time around, and say what you will about their HDTV support, but the *fact* is that while they're targeting maybe 10-15% of the market (HDTV's have yet to catch on for the mainstream consumer) Nintendo is targeting 100% of the market. It's entirely possible that the whole HDTV-centric advertising of both MS and Sony could blow up in their faces. With regard to specs, Rev's aren't even *released* yet, so you have no IDEA what they're going to be. And as any REAL gamer will tell you, it takes more than specs to make great games.
And please, don't be idiotic. If the Rev controller takes off, MS and Sony *can't* copy it immediately because they've already cast their lot with a standard controller that's only marginally different from current controllers. For developer support to catch on the controller has to be the *standard* controller for the system.
There is PLENTY of room in this market for 3 players, and in the end I expect to own all three systems. That said, the one I'm *most* anticipating right now is Revolution, because for the first time in a *decade* someone's offering something DIFFERENT.
Jason
Yeah, even a $200 price point is no guarantee of success, as this generation clearly showed. PS2 was the weakest in technology and matched the top-end in technology for price, yet it still sold more units.
What Nintendo really needs to do is have the best launch-lineup ever assembled, with games that appeal to the hardcore and to the "I don't play games" crowd. They need to hire a marketing firm that will aggressively market Revolution to every demographic imageinable and they need to make sure people have a chance to try out that sweet control system before the box ever launches.
Jason
Yes, I do. They're typical Sony hype crap. Killzone was a "concept" supposedly done "to spec". MGS4's trailer was a scripted sequence, not a *player* controlled sequence. In short, we have yet to see *any* actual gameplay on PS3. The same is true for Revolution, except of course that Nintendo's not pulling the typical Sony pre-launch overhype and unrealistic promises.
Jason
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I know this isn't directed at me but, I for one am very disappointed in Sony again trying to push CGI/concept videos off as actual game play. They keep touting a Spring 2006 release but have yet to show a single playable game and have announced that their big event in Japan won't have any playable games either. This may be them not wanting to hurt their holiday sales for the PS2 and PSP but still.
Nintendo is saying Spring 2006 for the Revolution as well and haven't shown off any playable games.
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Well PS3 most likely won't be seen in the states until 2007. I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see the Revolution stateside before the PS3.
And yes, I agree with the PS3 hype that its a buncha crap. I still too this date remember the PS2 video of the "old man face" that showed off the emotion engine. what a buncha crap.
Oh, you wanna see some more PS3 hype?
Check this video out ...
It looks cool, but it seems to me like rarely would gamers want to do excessive arm motions when playing a game.
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