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nintendo revolution looks awesome!!
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Inspector Jihad
Lifer
metroid prime 1 and 2 pwn the fvck out of anything that sony and microsoft have put out.
cKGunslinger
Lifer
Why do you think the revolution is " barely ahead" of last gen? Because many of the titles won't include Mature Content? 😕
News Flash - Blood and gore in games are the real "gimmicks." They are used to hide hidious, poorly-designed, monotonous gameplay. They are the things that attract 12-16 year old players.
I want games designed for adults, too. But by adults, I mean intelligent, mature people who prefer unique, engaging gameplay through innovating techniques and designs. I don't mean 26-year-old stoners who sit around and say "Dude , I just raped and beheaded another prostitute. Sweet!"
Yes, photorealism has it's place in gaming, but only as an addition to the game, implemented far behind the actual gameplay, not the sole focus. And so far, Nintendo is one of the few frontrunners that are actually in a postion to continue exploring game mechanics, instead of simply turning out yet another MLB/NBA/NFL/NCAA title or WWII shooter with cool effects and "ZOMG! 5X the blood of previous games!"
CptObvious
Platinum Member
i think nintendo is on the right track. the xbox 360 and ps3 seem to be graphical updates to the xbox and ps2. other than the increased emphasis on being a media station and online gaming, there's not much conceptually interesting to these new consoles. that may be fine for most gamers, but i think nintendo is aiming for the market who's not really into console gaming.
Nintendo, bring some more original RPG's to the console and I might bite; my favorite console is the SNES because of all the awesome RPG's that it had. And it would be awesome to be able to use 2 remotes adapted to look like swords, knives, or guns, so you could dual wield in games. Dislike of controllers has stopped me from ever buying a FPS for a console, but I could be convinced to change my mind if the Revolution meets my expectations.
And does anyone know why data gloves have not been implemented for consoles? Too expensive/difficult?
And does anyone know why data gloves have not been implemented for consoles? Too expensive/difficult?
Plus the US isn't their only market, success in Japan could carry Nintendo into the next gen of consoles. This being said, they still have the handheld market pretty well cornered. I have no real interest in the PSP, but I love my GBA SP and my DS to pieces. In fact, I hardly do any console gaming these days, it is mainly DS.
R
RagingBITCH
Lifer
What's the innovation with the Revolution? New Atari 2600 like controller? The fact that instead of innovating, their main selling point *TO DATE* has been the ability to buy and play legacy games? How is that a step above anything the 360 and PS3 has to offer?
AdamK47
Lifer
A Nintendo Fanboy Intervention
A quote from the acticle... "If you already own all three <current gen systems>, and all the good games for all three, then I have to ask what it's like to read this site on a monitor made of solid gold. Maybe you can let me know after you finish that caviar burrito."
A quote from the acticle... "If you already own all three <current gen systems>, and all the good games for all three, then I have to ask what it's like to read this site on a monitor made of solid gold. Maybe you can let me know after you finish that caviar burrito."
My oppinion on the system not beign next gen is the lackluster specs.. and gimmicky controller..
this system brings nothing to the table at all..
its barely higher than the last gen Xbox in stats..
hell even the last gen xbox supported 720p
as for groundbreaking nintendo games.. omfg please.. metriod was super lame..
mariocart... for kiddies no thanks..
marioparty? snore...
the stupid ass bongo games... get real...
RE4 was the ONLY good game to ever hit that system period..
you can all keep the platform crap games and the kiddy/family stuff
they do nothing for the majority of gamers.. and those gamers have spoken through game sales..
the gamecube suffered lackuster sales as best.. while the ps2 and the xbox raced past it by leaps and bounds..
the rev is already a day late and a dollar short on specs and expected features..
it wont last long this round..
the PS3 and the 360 are gonna bury it in record time.
purbeast0
No Lifer
CVSIN I had more respect for you until you started blabbing in this thread.
You are being sucked into MS and Sony's HD hype if you think that we are in the HD generation. If that's the case, then how come only like 10% of TV's out in people's homes are HD?
Sure the 360 controller is good, but you haven't even put your hands on the rev one. Do you not realize that every piece of video game revolution has been because of new improvements that nintendo made to the industry? WHo made the first gamepad? Who put the first analog stick on their controller? who put the first 4 player built into the console? who made the first first-party wireless controller? who made the first hand held system?
and then what does sony and/or ms do? they follow them and put analogs on their controlllers, build 4 controller ports into their system, create first-party wireless controllers to become standard with the system.
it's true that Sony and MS are not revolutionizing anything in the industry and are just giving us more of the same with prettier graphics and better physics, no actual new gameplay has been shown on any type of games displayed for the PS3 or 360. you can bet your ass that when the rev does well, the next sony or MS machine that comes out will have a new type of controller in it with a motion sensor/gyroscope type thingie.
and if you think graphics make the system and need to be "up to the current highest technology" and that the controller for the rev is nothing more than a gimmick, then please explain to me why the DS is doing 100x better than the PSP?
and to say it brings "nothing to the table?" ?!?!? as I said, watch when the controller design of the next MS and Sony consoles happen to "change" once they see the potential of the revmote.
as far as stats go, nintendo has always been the only console that has been %100 honest with their specs and what their system can do. They don't overhype it's potential and they always deliver with the quality they promised. I wish I could say the same for sony and MS.
You are being sucked into MS and Sony's HD hype if you think that we are in the HD generation. If that's the case, then how come only like 10% of TV's out in people's homes are HD?
Sure the 360 controller is good, but you haven't even put your hands on the rev one. Do you not realize that every piece of video game revolution has been because of new improvements that nintendo made to the industry? WHo made the first gamepad? Who put the first analog stick on their controller? who put the first 4 player built into the console? who made the first first-party wireless controller? who made the first hand held system?
and then what does sony and/or ms do? they follow them and put analogs on their controlllers, build 4 controller ports into their system, create first-party wireless controllers to become standard with the system.
it's true that Sony and MS are not revolutionizing anything in the industry and are just giving us more of the same with prettier graphics and better physics, no actual new gameplay has been shown on any type of games displayed for the PS3 or 360. you can bet your ass that when the rev does well, the next sony or MS machine that comes out will have a new type of controller in it with a motion sensor/gyroscope type thingie.
and if you think graphics make the system and need to be "up to the current highest technology" and that the controller for the rev is nothing more than a gimmick, then please explain to me why the DS is doing 100x better than the PSP?
and to say it brings "nothing to the table?" ?!?!? as I said, watch when the controller design of the next MS and Sony consoles happen to "change" once they see the potential of the revmote.
as far as stats go, nintendo has always been the only console that has been %100 honest with their specs and what their system can do. They don't overhype it's potential and they always deliver with the quality they promised. I wish I could say the same for sony and MS.
cKGunslinger
Lifer
Solution: Don't buy it and stick with your 360 and Madden '09 Fantasy College Sophomore XTreme Edition XXXLL - now with 3x as many individuals blades of grass!
Um care to back up those stats? the DS is a total failure here in the US.. everyone I knwo that had one at launch got rid of it becasue the games were horrible and the system was basically a rehashed gameboy..
the PSP is doing lightyears of sales ahead of the other consoles...
by the way your timelines are a little off.. Nintendo did not invent any of the things you mentioned.
Atari was first for analog before anyone ever thought about doing it..
SlowSpyder
Lifer
I wasn't planning on buying any more consoles as I mostly play nothing but my PC these days. Consoles rarely offer anything new. What is the Xbox 360, just a better graphics version of the original Xbox. Whoppdydo. PS3? We'll see how much it costs and the Blu Ray DVD might be nice, but ultimately as far as games go it's just a prettier graphics version of the PS2 (which ended up being just a better graphics version of the PS1). The Revolution, well atleast Nintendo is trying to do something differnt. I'll wait until it's out and see how I like it and the price, but out of the three next gen systems the only one I'm even remotely interested in is the Revolution. I went from not planning on buying any to being interested in one because it offers something new, not just higher resolution graphics.
Prettier graphics are more of a gimmick then anything else. There have been plenty of games made that are really just rehashes of the same old thing, they have zero innovation. But, because it looks nice or is supposidly 'mature' people buy it anyway. Congrats, you just paid $50 another rehash of Doom 1.
Prettier graphics are more of a gimmick then anything else. There have been plenty of games made that are really just rehashes of the same old thing, they have zero innovation. But, because it looks nice or is supposidly 'mature' people buy it anyway. Congrats, you just paid $50 another rehash of Doom 1.
KarmaPolice
Diamond Member
Ok, if you didnt grow up with nintendo games..sure you might think they are kid games. Yes, they are little cute characters running aroudn screaming things like "itsa me, mario". Other then the fact that they are cute and dont GUSH blood when they get hit, the gameplay is amazing. Mario kart may not be GTA3, but its just down right fun and tight gameplay. Super Smash Brothers Melee..sure..no finishing move..buts its REALLY fun. A lot of people will look at the system and think..eh for kids...thats fine for them, they can go buy their "adult" systems. People that realize that blood and sex doesnt make a game adult can buy this sytem and have a great time. Also, people my age(21) are now adults..and we all grew up on nintendo..a lot of us love the hell out of it.
The HD thing. Honestly I dont see the huge issue here marketing wise. While HD is getting bigger and bigger, its still not THAT mainstream. My parents are very well off and we dont have a HD tv. If you dont have a HD tv you arnt going to be taking advantage of the HD abliities of the system..and thats A LOT of people. and if you say "oh you should buy one when you get the system" pff...buying a 500 buck system and then having to buy a 1000 dollar TV is going for only the high income market. Nintendo selling there system at 200 bucks is saying...you dont need to be rich to play fun video games.
The Controller. I think its will be interesting, and I love how nintendo is trying innovate. I dont know how effective it will be, but I will deff give it a try. If its really amazing this sytem will rule. If it flops then it can still use regular controllers. Some of the ideas seem lame for the controller..but I have read some that sound very exciting.
I am not a fan boy by the way..here is my history of consoles
NES
SNES(my opinion best system ever made)
Sega Saturn ( I dont care what you say, that system ruled...I lived in japan at the time and there were AWESOME games for this thing)
Xbox (by far the worst system I have bought and unless MS gets better..I will never guy one of their systems...)
Really so my options are ps3 and the RV. PS3 may never come out lol and if it does...well it will cost 500. at 200 bucks the RV is such a good deal its what I will probably buy. Nintendo will aslo be easy for those people who buy multi platforms to buy...having a ps3 and a rev, is easier then having a 360 and a ps3.
Lastly, on the note of nintendo's past systems and profits. They are making a lot of money, I have no clue what you are talking about. Unlike SOny and MS..when they sell their systems they MAKE a profit, not lose. Even if this did flop, they domiinate the portable market.
/rambe
The HD thing. Honestly I dont see the huge issue here marketing wise. While HD is getting bigger and bigger, its still not THAT mainstream. My parents are very well off and we dont have a HD tv. If you dont have a HD tv you arnt going to be taking advantage of the HD abliities of the system..and thats A LOT of people. and if you say "oh you should buy one when you get the system" pff...buying a 500 buck system and then having to buy a 1000 dollar TV is going for only the high income market. Nintendo selling there system at 200 bucks is saying...you dont need to be rich to play fun video games.
The Controller. I think its will be interesting, and I love how nintendo is trying innovate. I dont know how effective it will be, but I will deff give it a try. If its really amazing this sytem will rule. If it flops then it can still use regular controllers. Some of the ideas seem lame for the controller..but I have read some that sound very exciting.
I am not a fan boy by the way..here is my history of consoles
NES
SNES(my opinion best system ever made)
Sega Saturn ( I dont care what you say, that system ruled...I lived in japan at the time and there were AWESOME games for this thing)
Xbox (by far the worst system I have bought and unless MS gets better..I will never guy one of their systems...)
Really so my options are ps3 and the RV. PS3 may never come out lol and if it does...well it will cost 500. at 200 bucks the RV is such a good deal its what I will probably buy. Nintendo will aslo be easy for those people who buy multi platforms to buy...having a ps3 and a rev, is easier then having a 360 and a ps3.
Lastly, on the note of nintendo's past systems and profits. They are making a lot of money, I have no clue what you are talking about. Unlike SOny and MS..when they sell their systems they MAKE a profit, not lose. Even if this did flop, they domiinate the portable market.
/rambe
purbeast0
No Lifer
it's very close in the US but in Japan the DS is whopping the crap out of the PSP.
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Also show me where Atari brought the first analog stick to become a standard for a console.
Also nintendo brought the whole controller rumble feature and L/R buttons which are now standard on consoles as well.
RagingBITCH
Lifer
Where did you pull your stats from?
http://www.gamepro.com/nintendo/ds/games/news/50908.shtml
The only reason for a lack of sales of the DS was the temporary shortage which caused the PSP to pull ahead for a brief period of time in terms of sales.
http://www.atarihq.com/danb/a5200.shtml
Atari 5200 years before the other systems.. note this little nugget of wisdom..
Ports: 2 (4 on some models) joystick ports for analog stick and keypad, Cartridge port, Expansion port
so youre wrong on several things.. Atari was the first for Analog as well as 4 ports..
as for the PSP VS the DS.. what those sales do not show is people that bought them and returned or ebayed or otherwise sold thier DS becasue the games blew so hard...
I bought one so did all my friends when they came out.. it lasted less than 5 months before it went back to EB the games were horrible and nothing came out..
http://www.atarihq.com/5200/5200faq/01_01.html 1982 was the year.. read it and weep..
atari dominated and trail blazed all video games
Inspector Jihad
Lifer
the guys is a flaming moron...don't take him seriously.
come on now, he thinks metroid sucked
cKGunslinger
Lifer
I think you'd be fighting an uphill battle if you're trying to insinuate that the PSP and its gaming library is superior to the DS.
Like.. 89.5° uphill. :laugh:
Inspector Jihad
Lifer
but....but.....it has more games that are bloody and gory
cKGunslinger
Lifer
Actually, I think Nintendo was founded in 1889. But keep trying! 😀
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