NIN officially suck now

Nine Inch Nails dropped out of the MTV Movie Awards after clashing with the network over an image of President Bush the band planned as a performance backdrop.

The Bush image was to accompany the song "The Hand That Feeds," which obliquely criticizes the Iraq war. It includes the lyrics: "What if this whole crusade's a charade / And behind it all there's a price to be paid / For the blood on which we dine / Justified in the name of the holy and the divine."

MTV said in a statement to its news division that the network was disappointed the industrial rock band would not perform but had been "uncomfortable with their performance being built around a partisan political statement."

The Foo Fighters will perform in place of the Trent Reznor-led band at the awards being taped June 4 in Los Angeles.

Reznor said in a statement posted on the band's Web site Thursday that the image of the president would have been unaltered and "straightforward."

"Apparently, the image of our president is as offensive to MTV as it is to me," he said.

Nine Inch Nails' fourth studio album and first in six years, "With Teeth," debuted this month at No. 1.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/05/30/people.nineinchnails.ap/index.html

Political Music < *

 

Originally posted by: dwell
Political Music < *

Yeah, Peter, Paul & Mary, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, Bob Marley, Jimmy Hendrix, and Country Joe McDonald are all ASSHOLES! How dare they exercise their creative license with POLITICS!!!!!!!!!!

:roll:

 

[Insane3D]

Oh, well at least you have sound reasoning there...

:roll:

 

[ThePresence]

Agreed. Shut up and sing. If you're an entertainer, be it actor, singer or whatever does not mean that anyone gives a shite about your political opinions. You are not elected, you make money because people want to hear you sing.

 

[aplefka]

So they suck because they're trying to get a message across? Sorry, can't agree with you on this one. I'd much rather have only 5 bands who want to sing about the current state of our government than 500 rappers who talk about some bitch they fvcked the other night or how gangsta they are or a variety of other things that somehow makes them a great person.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Agreed. Shut up and sing. If you're an entertainer, be it actor, singer or whatever does not mean that anyone gives a shite about your political opinions. You are not elected, you make money because people want to hear you sing.

We have a whole forum dedicated to people's political opinions that I care less about than Trent Reznor's.

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Agreed. Shut up and sing. If you're an entertainer, be it actor, singer or whatever does not mean that anyone gives a shite about your political opinions. You are not elected, you make money because people want to hear you sing.

Usually people do...politics and entertainment have always had a good relationship.

 

Originally posted by: aplefka
So they suck because they're trying to get a message across? Sorry, can't agree with you on this one. I'd much rather have only 5 bands who want to sing about the current state of our government than 500 rappers who talk about some bitch they fvcked the other night or how gangsta they are or a variety of other things that somehow makes them a great person.

Trent was better when he whined about how daddy didn't love him. Now it's boring Bush whining like everyone else. I am not pro-Bush. I am anti-politics. Especially in music.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: dwell

Originally posted by: aplefka
So they suck because they're trying to get a message across? Sorry, can't agree with you on this one. I'd much rather have only 5 bands who want to sing about the current state of our government than 500 rappers who talk about some bitch they fvcked the other night or how gangsta they are or a variety of other things that somehow makes them a great person.

Trent was better when he whined about how daddy didn't love him. Now it's boring Bush whining like everyone else. I am not pro-Bush. I am anti-politics. Especially in music.

Did you even know that the song was political before this article?

 

[PunDogg]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Agreed. Shut up and sing. If you're an entertainer, be it actor, singer or whatever does not mean that anyone gives a shite about your political opinions. You are not elected, you make money because people want to hear you sing.

thats his song, let him sing it, on the MTV thing they can not allow anyone they want, but alot of the greatest bands, singers all had politcal views and its there right to sing what ever they want, you just don;t have to listen to them, turn off the radio or don't buy the CD

Dogg

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: dwell

Originally posted by: aplefka
So they suck because they're trying to get a message across? Sorry, can't agree with you on this one. I'd much rather have only 5 bands who want to sing about the current state of our government than 500 rappers who talk about some bitch they fvcked the other night or how gangsta they are or a variety of other things that somehow makes them a great person.

Trent was better when he whined about how daddy didn't love him. Now it's boring Bush whining like everyone else. I am not pro-Bush. I am anti-politics. Especially in music.

Oh give me a break. Yeah, everyone is Bush whining now...right?

Seems you are a bit sensitive about this for a "non-political" person..

 

[Jassi]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Agreed. Shut up and sing. If you're an entertainer, be it actor, singer or whatever does not mean that anyone gives a shite about your political opinions. You are not elected, you make money because people want to hear you sing.

Just because he is an entertainer does not take away his option to use the media as a soapbox for his personal beliefs. People from all parts of the political spectrum use it as such, why can't he?

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: PunDogg

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Agreed. Shut up and sing. If you're an entertainer, be it actor, singer or whatever does not mean that anyone gives a shite about your political opinions. You are not elected, you make money because people want to hear you sing.

thats his song, let him sing it, on the MTV thing they can not allow anyone they want, but alot of the greatest bands, singers all had politcal views and its there right to sing what ever they want, you just don;t have to listen to them, turn off the radio or don't buy the CD

Dogg

I'm not trying to deny his right to sing it. I'm just stating my opinion that I think it sucks, as did the OP.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Jassi

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Agreed. Shut up and sing. If you're an entertainer, be it actor, singer or whatever does not mean that anyone gives a shite about your political opinions. You are not elected, you make money because people want to hear you sing.

Just because he is an entertainer does not take away his option to use the media as a soapbox for his personal beliefs. People from all parts of the political spectrum use it as such, why can't he?

He can. I just won't listen. I'm not denying his right to perform whatever he wants. MTV has the right to deny anyone they want.

 

Originally posted by: pulse8
Did you even know that the song was political before this article?

No, I thought it sucked for other reasons.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Jassi

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Agreed. Shut up and sing. If you're an entertainer, be it actor, singer or whatever does not mean that anyone gives a shite about your political opinions. You are not elected, you make money because people want to hear you sing.

Just because he is an entertainer does not take away his option to use the media as a soapbox for his personal beliefs. People from all parts of the political spectrum use it as such, why can't he?

He can. I just won't listen. I'm not denying his right to perform whatever he wants. MTV has the right to deny anyone they want.

He pulled out of the show because they wouldn't let him put a picture of Bush up...that's it. A picture...OMGTEHHORROR!!!!

 

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Oh give me a break. Yeah, everyone is Bush whining now...right?

Seems you are a bit sensitive about this for a "non-political" person..

It's the stupid trendy thing to do now. Just as being pro-Bush is the redneck thing to do. Paris Hilton should be making a anti-Bush statement any day now.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Insane3D

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Jassi

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Agreed. Shut up and sing. If you're an entertainer, be it actor, singer or whatever does not mean that anyone gives a shite about your political opinions. You are not elected, you make money because people want to hear you sing.

Just because he is an entertainer does not take away his option to use the media as a soapbox for his personal beliefs. People from all parts of the political spectrum use it as such, why can't he?

He can. I just won't listen. I'm not denying his right to perform whatever he wants. MTV has the right to deny anyone they want.

He pulled out of the show because they wouldn't let him put a picture of Bush up...that's it. A picture...OMGTEHHORROR!!!!

MTV can do whatever they want. They're a private organization, they can make any rule they want. You don't have to agree with it.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: dwell

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Oh give me a break. Yeah, everyone is Bush whining now...right?

Seems you are a bit sensitive about this for a "non-political" person..

It's the stupid trendy thing to do now. Just as being pro-Bush is the redneck thing to do. Paris Hilton should be making a anti-Bush statement any day now.

Please...point out a lot of recent stuff that has been anti - poor old GWB? I'm not talking about the Dixie chicks or springsteen back around election time...I mean RECENTLY.

Music has always been a area where political discourse is common...I guess in this day and age of crap like Britney and N'Sync, that's no longer "cool" right?

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: dwell

Originally posted by: pulse8
Did you even know that the song was political before this article?

No, I thought it sucked for other reasons.

Then what's the difference?

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Insane3D

He pulled out of the show because they wouldn't let him put a picture of Bush up...that's it. A picture...OMGTEHHORROR!!!!

MTV can do whatever they want. They're a private organization, they can make any rule they want. You don't have to agree with it.

You missed my point...but that's ok..

In your post you mentioned that MTV was saying they couldn't play, not them refusing.

As for my opinion, pleae don't make assumptions. Can you explain to me what the problem is with having a picture up in the background of the President?

Edit:

Would it be acceptable to perform in front of a picture of the President if you were singing a pro-GWB type song?

 

[aswedc]

Originally posted by: dwell

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Oh give me a break. Yeah, everyone is Bush whining now...right?

Seems you are a bit sensitive about this for a "non-political" person..

It's the stupid trendy thing to do now. Just as being pro-Bush is the redneck thing to do. Paris Hilton should be making a anti-Bush statement any day now.

You called yourself "anti-politics", and therefore have no right to decide whether other peoples political views are valid.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Insane3D

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Insane3D

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Jassi

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Agreed. Shut up and sing. If you're an entertainer, be it actor, singer or whatever does not mean that anyone gives a shite about your political opinions. You are not elected, you make money because people want to hear you sing.

Just because he is an entertainer does not take away his option to use the media as a soapbox for his personal beliefs. People from all parts of the political spectrum use it as such, why can't he?

He can. I just won't listen. I'm not denying his right to perform whatever he wants. MTV has the right to deny anyone they want.

He pulled out of the show because they wouldn't let him put a picture of Bush up...that's it. A picture...OMGTEHHORROR!!!!

MTV can do whatever they want. They're a private organization, they can make any rule they want. You don't have to agree with it.

You missed my point...but that's ok..

Here's what I thought your point was: You don't see why MTV is making a big deal about a picture. Here's my point: It doesn't MATTER if you agree with MTV or not, they're entitled to do whatever they want. It's their organization. You can always start your own cable network if you are so inclined.
If I STILL missed it, please explain your point for the less intelligent.

 

[novon]

Good for them for not conforming... political bands are the good ones, the rest are just carbon copies.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Here's what I thought your point was: You don't see why MTV is making a big deal about a picture. Here's my point: It doesn't MATTER if you agree with MTV or not, they're entitled to do whatever they want. It's their organization. You can always start your own cable network if you are so inclined.
If I STILL missed it, please explain your point for the less intelligent.

*sigh*

Ok chief...whatever...