Nice to see liberals acting like conseratives

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Texashiker

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So let me get this straight, when liberals make changes and then try to prevent conservatives from reverting things to the old ways, liberals have suddenly become conservative?

Does not matter what the change is, if someone resist change, they are a conservative.

that is what liberal say, right?

Strange how the tables are turned when things do not go how progressives want.
 

woolfe9998

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Liberals basically are conservatives nowadays battling to protect the legacy of the New Deal and the income distribution of the 1950s. Conservatives are the new radicals looking to completely blow up the status quo in favor of some ill-thought our ideal of how the world should be.

Liberals also want many things we have never had. Like single payer healthcare. Liberals are fighting to protect progress which has already been made, and also seeking more progress. The analogy to conservatism is absurd.
 
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I am going to post one more thread, and then I will be gone until the mid-terms.
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Have at it tugboat toothless.
 

Jhhnn

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You do realize the 1950s had the highest standard of living in a generation, right?

it was after nixon took us off the gold standard and established trade with China that things went down hill

Yeh, the 50's were the full flowering of the New Deal.
 

fskimospy

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Does not matter what the change is, if someone resist change, they are a conservative.

that is what liberal say, right?

Strange how the tables are turned when things do not go how progressives want.

I want you to know that I mean this sincerely: you are either extremely stupid or you do a great impression of an extremely stupid person.
 

woolfe9998

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I will be leaving soon enough, by my own choice.

Then I will be back after the 2018 mid-term to boast about the democrat crushing defeat, for a second time.

If your prediction proves incorrect, do you promise you'll be back anyway to take your lumps?

I won't hold my breath.
 

pmv

Lifer
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A nonsense thread pedantically quibbling about terminology so I'll join in.

'Conservative' and 'Liberal' are just fuzzy labels, don't get too hung up on the literal meanings.

Strictly, what is a 'conservative' depends on what is being conserved. In contemporary China, after all, the 'conservatives' are communists.

I remain of the view that liberals are essentially a subtype of conservatives anyway. As far as I can see, here the difference between them disappeared when the arguments about the Corn Laws were resolved.

Only in the US are conservatives _so_ extreme and weird that liberals actually appear to be distinguishable from them. In fact US conservatives appear remarkably unconcerned with conserving anything, cf their attitude to climate change. They mostly seem to crave destruction, and seem more like Nihilists to me. So in the US you have Nihilists and Conservatives but call them Conservatives and Liberals.
 
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MajinCry

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Couple of the mods and I disagreed on a few things, so I took a voluntary vacation. I was not banned, I just decided my conservative viewpoints were not very popular here.

Just came back to post this thread and a couple of replies, then I will probably be gone until the 2018 mid-term elections.

I thought you conservatives were against safe spaces.
 
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Sorry Texas, I have to disagree with your thread title. I have seen no evidence in here of liberals acting with class and character, only the usual anger, hatred and ignorance.
 
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fskimospy

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Sorry Texas, I have to disagree with your thread title. I have seen no evidence in here of liberals acting with class and character, only the usual anger, hatred and ignorance.

Yes, if there’s one thing that I associate with the people who support Donald Trump and Roy Moore it’s class and character. ;)

Tell us another one! These are great.
 

theeedude

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Conservatism is going extinct. Their policies have failed time and time again, and they can't learn and evolve, because they are driven by dogma, not data.
 
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ivwshane

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You do realize the 1950s had the highest standard of living in a generation, right?

it was after nixon took us off the gold standard and established trade with China that things went down hill

We also had very high taxes and plenty of programs for work and education along with huge spending on infrastructure and some of the highest wages in history (adjusted for inflation).

You aren't a conservative, you are an ideologue. Tell me what conservatives have proposed, passed, that resembles any of the above.
 

fskimospy

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I'm telling you man, drumpf is putting the ass back into class.

One of the things about Trump that I find funniest is how clearly desperate he is to appear classy and how completely he has always failed at it.

His properties remind me of the insanely gaudy palaces in Russia, like a child’s concept of what looks good. (If one painting on the wall looks good then 20 will look GREAT!)
 
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One of the things about Trump that I find funniest is how clearly desperate he is to appear classy and how completely he has always failed at it.

His properties remind me of the insanely gaudy palaces in Russia, like a child’s concept of what looks good. (If one painting on the wall looks good then 20 will look GREAT!)
I really think this nails it, 100%
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IronWing

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I guess it's because Felix has been posting more as of late than in former times but the writing style similarities are striking.
 

Ichinisan

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Usually, a conservative is associated with someone who resist change. With that in mind, it is nice to see progressive liberals acting like conservatives.

When it comes to just about anything having to do with changing the obama agenda, liberals act like conservatives and resist change. What are these new found conservatives afraid of? For example, the net worked just fine before 2015. Yet, listen to the progressives at Google and the sky is falling.

Talk about improving healthcare, and new found conservatives protest in droves.

Revise the tax code, new found conservatives protest.

Why are liberals flipping and becoming conservatives? Trump has an agenda, just like obama did. If people opposed the obama agenda, they were called racist. What do we call people who resist Trumps agenda? Maybe call them right wing conservatives?

When obama was bringing about change, he was considered a progressive. Now it is Trump who is the progressive and bringing about change.

Since I support Trump, does that make me a liberal? Probably so, but a right wing liberal, if there is such a thing.

So liberals, how does it feel to protest change and be a conservative?
"Obama agenda" -- you mean "change?" So liberals aren't liberal unless they want to change the change?