Nice to see liberals acting like conseratives

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Trying to pull the old Netherlands ambassador memory wipe trick, eh?
No, it's bullshit that he claims I supported Moore when I was early on an opponent of him. It's also a lie that I said I wanted to kill children. Nothing I can do about his lies, except occasionally put the truth out.
 

SlowSpyder

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The left has been straying from common sense in many ways for a while now, but Trump's election really rattled them. They were sure Hillary was going to win and were blindsided. Now they are in full retard mode. Today the left pushes for racist policies, buys into conspiracy theories about Trump (did you see the one where he is starting his own SS?), they put their agenda ahead of America, and they are the ones dismissing reality to live in a bubble. The right was pretty bad under Obama, but the left really have become the new conservatives and have totally jumped the shark these days.
 

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The left has been straying from common sense in many ways for a while now, but Trump's election really rattled them. They were sure Hillary was going to win and were blindsided. Now they are in full retard mode. Today the left pushes for racist policies, buys into conspiracy theories about Trump (did you see the one where he is starting his own SS?), they put their agenda ahead of America, and they are the ones dismissing reality to live in a bubble. The right was pretty bad under Obama, but the left really have become the new conservatives and have totally jumped the shark these days.

I didn't notice 'the left' being certain Hillary was going to win. On the contrary, most leftists were very dubious about her (Michael Moore being on record as predicting a win for Trump). Likewise over here the feeling was nervousness that one can never over-estimate how irrational Americans are. For me the issue is, on the contrary, having to grudgingly admit that Hillary (who I don't like) did actually win a majority of the vote, thus proving Americans aren't quite as mad as I sometimes think (you just have a mad electoral system). [edit - or that Hillary wasn't as awful a candidate as I originally thought]

Generally your posts are generic template-produced stuff, lacking any substantial arugments. Notably most of them could be swapped around and posted in respose to anything with something negative about Trump, and it would make no difference, because they are so lacking in specific arguments. Saying that 'the left have become the same as the right under Obama' doesn't really constitute a response to, for example, a terrible tax bill that is a naked grab for loot by the rich.
 
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Jhhnn

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No, it's bullshit that he claims I supported Moore when I was early on an opponent of him. It's also a lie that I said I wanted to kill children. Nothing I can do about his lies, except occasionally put the truth out.

You did offer that Moore should withdraw. When Trump came out in support you remained steadfast in support of him, however.

There was your long ago comment about dropping grenades into border tunnels...
 

Jhhnn

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I didn't notice 'the left' being certain Hillary was going to win. On the contrary, most leftists were very dubious about her (Michael Moore being on record as predicting a win for Trump). Likewise over here the feeling was nervousness that one can never over-estimate how irrational Americans are. For me the issue is, on the contrary, having to grudgingly admit that Hillary (who I don't like) did actually win a majority of the vote, thus proving Americans aren't quite as mad as I sometimes think (you just have a mad electoral system). [edit - or that Hillary wasn't as awful a candidate as I originally thought]

Generally your posts are generic template-produced stuff, lacking any substantial arugments. Notably most of them could be swapped around and posted in respose to anything with something negative about Trump, and it would make no difference, because they are so lacking in specific arguments. Saying that 'the left have become the same as the right under Obama' doesn't really constitute a response to, for example, a terrible tax bill that is a naked grab for loot by the rich.

He does denial with the worst of the deplorables.
 

Moonbeam

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He does denial with the worst of the deplorables.
Do you ever wish very bad things happen to very bad people? I know my country does. We dropped MOABs on Al-Kaida tunnels. If you see illegals as enemies of the state and a threat to ordinary American citizens and people lawfully waiting in line to immigrate, how is a grenade in human trafficking tunnels so different? Isn't the real question about the ethics of who we call evil and worthy of bad things happening to them. Won't that require a highly developed sense of empathy and some developed perspective of human nature? I sincerely doubt taj would throw a hand grenade himself but I do understand the feeling that bad things should happen to bad people. I also feel that if bad things didn't happen to people there wouldn't be many bad people.
 

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The left has been straying from common sense in many ways for a while now, but Trump's election really rattled them. They were sure Hillary was going to win and were blindsided. Now they are in full retard mode. Today the left pushes for racist policies, buys into conspiracy theories about Trump (did you see the one where he is starting his own SS?), they put their agenda ahead of America, and they are the ones dismissing reality to live in a bubble. The right was pretty bad under Obama, but the left really have become the new conservatives and have totally jumped the shark these days.
Laying blame on others for what your side does just won't work anymore.
 
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No, it's bullshit that he claims I supported Moore when I was early on an opponent of him. It's also a lie that I said I wanted to kill children. Nothing I can do about his lies, except occasionally put the truth out.
lol, the Truth broke up with you and wants nothing to do with you and you do support moore by proxy, but you're too ignorant to figure that out. And you did say you'd use force to kill children crossing the border illegally, pity about the dementia.
 

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I've always been amazed that the "War on Christmas" is a thing and upsets so many, as if one of the most secular and commercial holidays is the most important holiday in the Christian religion.

Hint: It's not even close.

I say that because I find it amazing that those who bleat about the "War on Christmas", like you, never utter a word about the absolute secularization and commercialization of the holiday that is essentially the foundation of the Christian religion.....Easter. You know, all that stuff about dying on the cross, giving His life to absolve us from our sin, everlasting life after death. You know, the basis for belief in Christianity, or most any religion for that matter. Christianity isn't based on Jesus's birth.

So, let me ask you.....when are you joining in on the crusade against the "War on Easter"?


As for the "In God We Trust" motto on our money.....when and why was it added? And where in that motto is Christianity mentioned? You do understand belief in God does not mean belief in Christianity, right? One can believe in God and not be a Christian.....you do get that, right?
You seem to be rambling incoherently again, are you off your meds? As far as I understand it, all religions are about God.
 

ch33zw1z

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You seem to be rambling incoherently again, are you off your meds? As far as I understand it, all religions are about God.
you cant read that? lol...

and your understanding of religion is pretty sad.

stick to trumps understanding of religion, and his great speaking abilities, right up your alley.
 
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Usually, a conservative is associated with someone who resist change. With that in mind, it is nice to see progressive liberals acting like conservatives.

When it comes to just about anything having to do with changing the obama agenda, liberals act like conservatives and resist change. What are these new found conservatives afraid of? For example, the net worked just fine before 2015. Yet, listen to the progressives at Google and the sky is falling.

Talk about improving healthcare, and new found conservatives protest in droves.

Revise the tax code, new found conservatives protest.

Why are liberals flipping and becoming conservatives? Trump has an agenda, just like obama did. If people opposed the obama agenda, they were called racist. What do we call people who resist Trumps agenda? Maybe call them right wing conservatives?

When obama was bringing about change, he was considered a progressive. Now it is Trump who is the progressive and bringing about change.

Since I support Trump, does that make me a liberal? Probably so, but a right wing liberal, if there is such a thing.

So liberals, how does it feel to protest change and be a conservative?
I don't really think this is a new occurrence. The voices in The Right that have been supportive of the status quo ante have been amplified for quite some time now, which has forced The Left to take a more defensive position. Hell even during the Clinton years Democrats were playing defense.

Nonetheless, The Left has had a lot to lose for quite some time and hasn't really proposed anything new and outside of the box in ages. To me it's appeared to generally be conservatives (Democrats) vs reactionaries (Republicans) as their more conservative voices in the party have been muted. It's still that way today just with reactionaries finally having power. When Obama was in office, AHA aside, there wasn't much change for Republicans to resist. They simply were resisting Obama and bemoaning the status quo.



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Do you ever wish very bad things happen to very bad people? I know my country does. We dropped MOABs on Al-Kaida tunnels. If you see illegals as enemies of the state and a threat to ordinary American citizens and people lawfully waiting in line to immigrate, how is a grenade in human trafficking tunnels so different? Isn't the real question about the ethics of who we call evil and worthy of bad things happening to them. Won't that require a highly developed sense of empathy and some developed perspective of human nature? I sincerely doubt taj would throw a hand grenade himself but I do understand the feeling that bad things should happen to bad people. I also feel that if bad things didn't happen to people there wouldn't be many bad people.
Thank you and there's also the type of terrorist that put women and children in harms way along with hospitals and schools as they fire missiles, shoot rifles and attack their targets, then scream and cry and call the press when fire is returned.
 
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Thank you and there's also the type of terrorist that put women and children in harms way along with hospitals and schools as they fire missiles, shoot rifles and attack their targets, then scream and cry and call the press when fire is returned.
holy fuck, how did your brain not go into total ironic lockdown after typing this shit
 
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Meghan54

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You seem to be rambling incoherently again, are you off your meds? As far as I understand it, all religions are about God.

Ummm.....no they're not, actually, unless you thing Hindus and Buddhists worship the Abrahamic God, which is what is being referred to.....but you'll claim some ignorant weasel words to try to wiggle out of that.