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Tim

Originally posted by: MustangSVT

wtf? is espn in their pocket or something?

he doesnt defend himself, but you can see that he slams into him.

If you watch it again, you'll notice the QB makes a cut to the inside towards the ref right before contact. If you watch the play from a higher angle, you'll see the same thing, and understand why the ref checked him.
 

BladeVenom

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Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: MustangSVT

wtf? is espn in their pocket or something?

he doesnt defend himself, but you can see that he slams into him.

If you watch it again, you'll notice the QB makes a cut to the inside towards the ref right before contact. If you watch the play from a higher angle, you'll see the same thing, and understand why the ref checked him.

I see the ref cut him off, square up, and deliver a hit on the QB, just like what the defense would do. I think you're seeing what you want to see.
 

Freshgeardude

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thats hilarious, if I was that QB id just run into him, say it was by mistake and the ref got in the way, since the ref stopped him anyways, dont think they got any yard gain
 

Kirby

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Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: MustangSVT

wtf? is espn in their pocket or something?

he doesnt defend himself, but you can see that he slams into him.

If you watch it again, you'll notice the QB makes a cut to the inside towards the ref right before contact. If you watch the play from a higher angle, you'll see the same thing, and understand why the ref checked him.

I see the ref cut him off, square up, and deliver a hit on the QB, just like what the defense would do. I think you're seeing what you want to see.

A good defense would wrap him up and drive his feet. :p
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: MustangSVT

wtf? is espn in their pocket or something?

he doesnt defend himself, but you can see that he slams into him.

If you watch it again, you'll notice the QB makes a cut to the inside towards the ref right before contact. If you watch the play from a higher angle, you'll see the same thing, and understand why the ref checked him.

I see the ref cut him off, square up, and deliver a hit on the QB, just like what the defense would do. I think you're seeing what you want to see.

I keep rewatching it, and it looks really bad. I can definitely see the QB change directions, and without that change in directions I think there wouldn't have been a collision. Also you have to keep in mind that the officials have 22 guys they need to avoid getting run over by, not just the ball carrier. One guy was coming at the umpire from behind, and another was coming at him from his left. He wasn't in a good position to avoid getting hit.

I think his initial moves to the right where it looks like he's trying to block the QB's path were actually an attempt to get out of the way in case the QB cut upfield earlier.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: MustangSVT

wtf? is espn in their pocket or something?

he doesnt defend himself, but you can see that he slams into him.

If you watch it again, you'll notice the QB makes a cut to the inside towards the ref right before contact. If you watch the play from a higher angle, you'll see the same thing, and understand why the ref checked him.

i have seen it from top and bottom. in all of them it looks as if the ref didnt try to get out of the way and was out ot knock him down.

but of course they are goign tos ey the ref was trying to avoid it. they don't want it in the papers that a ref is biased.

though i doubt we see the guy to much.
 
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Tim

Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: MustangSVT

wtf? is espn in their pocket or something?

he doesnt defend himself, but you can see that he slams into him.

If you watch it again, you'll notice the QB makes a cut to the inside towards the ref right before contact. If you watch the play from a higher angle, you'll see the same thing, and understand why the ref checked him.

I see the ref cut him off, square up, and deliver a hit on the QB, just like what the defense would do. I think you're seeing what you want to see.

Funny you should say that. Hello Mr. Black Pot, meet Mr. Black Kettle. Who's idea on the matter is more likely to be true, mine, or your conspiracy theory?
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: waggy

i have seen it from top and bottom. in all of them it looks as if the ref didnt try to get out of the way and was out ot knock him down.

but of course they are goign tos ey the ref was trying to avoid it. they don't want it in the papers that a ref is biased.

though i doubt we see the guy to much.

Let's apply Occam's razor here.

Scenario 1: Approximately 60 year old football umpire is biased and wants to influence the outcome of a game. He has the power to do so by discreetly making bad calls or missing calls. Instead he chooses to influence the game by tackling the quarterback.

Scenario 2: Approximately 60 year old football umpire misreads the intentions of the QB; every move he makes to get out of the way puts him more in the way, eventually causing a collision.

 
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Tim

Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: waggy

i have seen it from top and bottom. in all of them it looks as if the ref didnt try to get out of the way and was out ot knock him down.

but of course they are goign tos ey the ref was trying to avoid it. they don't want it in the papers that a ref is biased.

though i doubt we see the guy to much.

Let's apply Occam's razor here.

Scenario 1: Approximately 60 year old football umpire is biased and wants to influence the outcome of a game. He has the power to do so by discreetly making bad calls or missing calls. Instead he chooses to influence the game by tackling the quarterback.

Scenario 2: Approximately 60 year old football umpire misreads the intentions of the QB; every move he makes to get out of the way puts him more in the way, eventually causing a collision.

Thank you for making my point more clear for the less astute people to understand.

 

darkxshade

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: waggy

i have seen it from top and bottom. in all of them it looks as if the ref didnt try to get out of the way and was out ot knock him down.

but of course they are goign tos ey the ref was trying to avoid it. they don't want it in the papers that a ref is biased.

though i doubt we see the guy to much.

Let's apply Occam's razor here.

Scenario 1: Approximately 60 year old football umpire is biased and wants to influence the outcome of a game. He has the power to do so by discreetly making bad calls or missing calls. Instead he chooses to influence the game by tackling the quarterback.

Scenario 2: Approximately 60 year old football umpire misreads the intentions of the QB; every move he makes to get out of the way puts him more in the way, eventually causing a collision.

Scenario 3: Approximately 60 year old football ref had a sudden mild onset of alzheimer's and thought he was playing the game rather than reffing it. ;)

 

waggy

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: waggy

i have seen it from top and bottom. in all of them it looks as if the ref didnt try to get out of the way and was out ot knock him down.

but of course they are goign tos ey the ref was trying to avoid it. they don't want it in the papers that a ref is biased.

though i doubt we see the guy to much.

Let's apply Occam's razor here.

Scenario 1: Approximately 60 year old football umpire is biased and wants to influence the outcome of a game. He has the power to do so by discreetly making bad calls or missing calls. Instead he chooses to influence the game by tackling the quarterback.

Scenario 2: Approximately 60 year old football umpire misreads the intentions of the QB; every move he makes to get out of the way puts him more in the way, eventually causing a collision.


does that change the fact it LOOKS to me like he did it intentionally? no it does not. I did not say it is fact that he did it just i looks as if he did. I never said i was right or wrong just what it looks like.




 

mugs

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: waggy

i have seen it from top and bottom. in all of them it looks as if the ref didnt try to get out of the way and was out ot knock him down.

but of course they are goign tos ey the ref was trying to avoid it. they don't want it in the papers that a ref is biased.

though i doubt we see the guy to much.

Let's apply Occam's razor here.

Scenario 1: Approximately 60 year old football umpire is biased and wants to influence the outcome of a game. He has the power to do so by discreetly making bad calls or missing calls. Instead he chooses to influence the game by tackling the quarterback.

Scenario 2: Approximately 60 year old football umpire misreads the intentions of the QB; every move he makes to get out of the way puts him more in the way, eventually causing a collision.


does that change the fact it LOOKS to me like he did it intentionally? no it does not. I did not say it is fact that he did it just i looks as if he did. I never said i was right or wrong just what it looks like.


"but of course they are goign tos ey the ref was trying to avoid it. they don't want it in the papers that a ref is biased."

Close enough
 
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Tim

Originally posted by: waggy
does that change the fact it LOOKS to me like he did it intentionally? no it does not. I did not say it is fact that he did it just i looks as if he did. I never said i was right or wrong just what it looks like.

Time for new glasses, pops.
Or is it smoke in the eyes?

NVM, MYOB right?
 

rocadelpunk

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Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
SEC SPEED is contagious.

I for one agree with Mugs. It still doesn't look pretty though haha. Although...

South Carolina gets screwed repeatedly by the lsu refs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2k0FLerfDg

The game was at South Carolina, I fail to see your point in reference to this thread with that statement.

The point was that lsu has SEC refs in their back pocket. The refs are going to want their top SEC teams to win and not get upset...so wanting South Carolina to lose is the summation of my powerpoint. Do you see the connection? Ref takes out SC qb to stop a touchdown & in the video I posted refs don't call a ton of penalties in LSU's favor. I don't actually believe this, I'm just being a horses ass and I think both videos are funny. I'm sure there were plenty of things the refs didn't call on the gamecocks as well.
 

udneekgnim

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I've watched the clip but not the actual game

apparently, the ref was purposely being used as an obstacle all game long, and he just got pissed and took the oppurtunity to lay the QB on the ground when the chance was given to him

notice that the QB made cut toward the ref and where the defense is coming from

it doesn't make much sense to make that cut unless he was trying to use the ref as a blocker
 

SpanishFry

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Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
SEC SPEED is contagious.

I for one agree with Mugs. It still doesn't look pretty though haha. Although...

South Carolina gets screwed repeatedly by the lsu refs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2k0FLerfDg

The game was at South Carolina, I fail to see your point in reference to this thread with that statement.

The point was that lsu has SEC refs in their back pocket. The refs are going to want their top SEC teams to win and not get upset...so wanting South Carolina to lose is the summation of my powerpoint. Do you see the connection? Ref takes out SC qb to stop a touchdown & in the video I posted refs don't call a ton of penalties in LSU's favor. I don't actually believe this, I'm just being a horses ass and I think both videos are funny. I'm sure there were plenty of things the refs didn't call on the gamecocks as well.

i think irrelevance is a bigger threat to USC