Nice! I just wasted $158.

[irishScott]

So you didn't pay attention in driver's ed and now you bitch? Lol. Just because other people do it doesn't make it right. You always stop at a red light, then turn right if applicable. It's the law. bold.

I imagine you'd bitch about running a stop sign: "but the intersection was obviously clear!"

 

[ShawnD1]

A few years ago, it was the bikers who had the meth labs...nowadays, it's the Mexican cartels.
I'm always happy as hell to see them get taken down. Back in the day, I got called out on several HAZMAT cleanups for meth labs and discarded meth by-products. (I made good money on the stuff...but it's a PITA to deal with for the various city/county/state agencies who get stuck with the costs)

I feel the need to clarify some stuff about that. It's a hazmat situation because it's a chemistry lab; not because it's meth. Just like any other chem lab, the crackhead chem lab is full of organic solvents like gasoline, acetone, and mineral spirits, but it's in a poorly ventilated basement where the fumes can linger.
I was a chemist for a drug company a few years back. The entire lab shut down when there was a ventilation problem because the ventilation is the #1 safety thing. Aside from the fact that inhaling acetone can make you pass out and not wake up (because you keep inhaling acetone while asleep) it's also a huge explosion hazard. This is why poorly ventilated meth shacks tend to explode. Organic reactions in a real chem lab are often done in boiling solvent with a condenser column on top that has cold water flowing through it. In a real chem lab, that's called reflux; boiling the solution then cooling the vapours so you don't lose any solvent. Crackheads probably don't have condenser columns or proper glassware, so their solvent boils without being recaptured. All that acetone in the air..... Just a little spark would make the whole thing explode.

lol, you didn't stop or slow down AT ALL.

I laughed at that too. Usually people around here slow way down and only come to a rolling stop. The stuff shown in the video is something I've honestly never seen in my entire life. Just full speed blowing through the red.

 

[Hugh Jass]

The OP is a whiny idiot.

 

[BoomerD]

I feel the need to clarify some stuff about that. It's a hazmat situation because it's a chemistry lab; not because it's meth. Just like any other chem lab, the crackhead chem lab is full of organic solvents like gasoline, acetone, and mineral spirits, but it's in a poorly ventilated basement where the fumes can linger.
I was a chemist for a drug company a few years back. The entire lab shut down when there was a ventilation problem because the ventilation is the #1 safety thing. Aside from the fact that inhaling acetone can make you pass out and not wake up (because you keep inhaling acetone while asleep) it's also a huge explosion hazard. This is why poorly ventilated meth shacks tend to explode. Organic reactions in a real chem lab are often done in boiling solvent with a condenser column on top that has cold water flowing through it. In a real chem lab, that's called reflux; boiling the solution then cooling the vapours so you don't lose any solvent. Crackheads probably don't have condenser columns or proper glassware, so their solvent boils without being recaptured. All that acetone in the air..... Just a little spark would make the whole thing explode.



I laughed at that too. Usually people around here slow way down and only come to a rolling stop. The stuff shown in the video is something I've honestly never seen in my entire life. Just full speed blowing through the red.

Yeah, I've never taken a chemistry class in my life...always wanted to, but my math isn't good enough to do it right.
We had an "impromptu" class about the various chemical hazards involved...and there was always at least one site safety meeting before the project began...and often during the project if it was more than a day or two to discuss the various chemicals, the remediation of those chemicals, and any special precautions needed/taken. I've seen a couple of crank labs go up...they let the magic smoke out...but you don't need a chemistry degree to clean them up...you just need to understand the dangers and how to deal with the various chemicals. (the site safety crews are often chemists and have special training for HAZMAT remediation)
There have been a few houses around here that had to be torn down because the various chemicals leached into the woodwork...(or so they said)

 

[Shawn]

That's why I purposely go out of my way to avoid the intersections with red light camera here. I'm always paranoid that they will trip and give me a ticket because i'm 1mm over the line or something.

 

[alkemyst]

Since that lane is right turn only, it should be synced with the cross street's left turn signal. Like you said, you can clearly seem them turning.

About a year ago Miami-Dade released a report which stated that something like 80% of the red light camera tickets issued were for right on red without stopping.

If you turn right as red without stopping you deserve a ticket as the law is written today but I think a lot of these intersections are setup to generate tickets.

Except that wasn't them turning on a left turn signal. Also unless the OP has superman XRAY vision, there is no way they could have seen past that panel truck/bus.

Around here people will turn on red all the way through the opposing green lights right of way until their light is green again.

 

[VinylxScratches]

Here in Illinois, that right lane would have a green right turn if all those cars were turning left at the time assuming they have the left turn signal. Looks like a revenue generator to me. If you were turning on red and that other lane was full green, I would say you deserve the ticket.

 

[bruceb]

The only good thing about red light cameras, is no points on your license. If a cop issues you the ticket for a red light, you will get points. That said, the NMA is against red light cameras, as they feel it does nothing to reduce accidents and is mainly a revenue generator for both the town and camera company. Link below to NMA's stand on these cameras.

http://www.motorists.org/red-light-cameras/

 

[rcpratt]

Thank god Michigan doesn't have red light cameras.

 

[alkemyst]

Here in Illinois, that right lane would have a green right turn if all those cars were turning left at the time assuming they have the left turn signal. Looks like a revenue generator to me. If you were turning on red and that other lane was full green, I would say you deserve the ticket.

Chances are the opposing traffic only had green lights, not green arrows but there was no one coming at the time.

 

[Qacer]

From a recent article (http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-n...-mount-at-tampa-intersections-wi-ar-347998/):

Westbound Gandy Boulevard at Westshore Boulevard was third, with 980 citations. That's 20 citations a day at the location, with roughly 94 percent issued to motorists accused of not stopping before making right turns.

Sgt. Carl Giguere, whose squad views red-light camera video and issues citations, said officers hope drivers will change their habits and the number of citations issued each day eventually will decrease.

I have since modified my driving habit to stop at any red light, which also has increased the number of drivers rapidly decelerating behind me (as seen from my rearview mirror). Eventually, if the Tampa PD gets their wish of changing driving habits (stop on red before right turn), then I wonder how they are going to pay to maintain these cameras?

 

[Doppel]

I wanted to say I do that all the time but the truth is even I don't. I don't come to a total stop at reds to take a right, but I slow down more than that.

Chances are the opposing traffic only had green lights, not green arrows but there was no one coming at the time.

And this is why, queuing off what other traffic is doing at this point taking their left is very risky.

 

[shortylickens]

From a recent article (http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-n...-mount-at-tampa-intersections-wi-ar-347998/):



I have since modified my driving habit to stop at any red light, which also has increased the number of drivers rapidly decelerating behind me (as seen from my rearview mirror). Eventually, if the Tampa PD gets their wish of changing driving habits (stop on red before right turn), then I wonder how they are going to pay to maintain these cameras?

Without constant supervision by police, people will start breaking the law again, guaranteed. If they get just one ticket a day, that will pay for the cameras, which can issue more tickets electronically. No problem.

 

[Slammy1]

When I lived in Tampa it was pretty intense stop light competition. I remember once I was turning left and the 2-3 cars in front of me ran the red to make it but I stopped. The guy behind me got really upset.

It's a real mix of driving cultures there ranging from East Coast drivers with very specific expectations of how everyone else needs to drive to drivers from comparatively lawless areas near the equator then Canadian tourists used to roads where they might not see more than 1 car per mile who stop in the left lane of a 75 mph interstate because they thought they saw something splash in the water.

 

[edro]

I know that red light cameras are primarily for revenue generation, but they have to help safety some too.
They put some in Columbus over the last few years. They put them in the most dangerous intersections downtown, where there are many pedestrians and the traffic is crazy.
I think they are a good way to make motorists pay more attention in congested areas.