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Nice article on Bush...

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bjc112

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I think there is nothing wrong with him being a believer...

Take the poll at the bottom left..

Do you think there is a problem bringing morality into the white house?
 
I think the poll is worded wrong:

Does George W. Bush's religious faith inappropriately dictate policy?

Yes. Church and state are supposed to be separated.

No. What's wrong with bringing morality to the White House?

I don't know.
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Morality and religion can be seperate issues IMHO.

 
kinda a crappy poll there
"Yes. Church and state are supposed to be separated."
ok thats valid

"No. What's wrong with bringing morality to the White House?"
so christian religion suddenly means morality now
 
Christian morality has no place in government. What Mr. Bush does on his own time is his business, but when his religion affects me, we have a problem.
 
Originally posted by: Czar
kinda a crappy poll there
"Yes. Church and state are supposed to be separated."
ok thats valid

"No. What's wrong with bringing morality to the White House?"
so christian religion suddenly means morality now
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That is a heavily biased poll. Newsweek should be ashamed of itself.
 
Originally posted by: Czar
kinda a crappy poll there
"Yes. Church and state are supposed to be separated."
ok thats valid

"No. What's wrong with bringing morality to the White House?"
so christian religion suddenly means morality now
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True but i figured it give my post some depth 😉
 
While I am not a practicing Christian, I do not understand how somebody could be 'wrong' in practicing and studying their beliefs.

Liberals liked to say how Clinton's sex acts in the White House were personal, yet it gets to Bush's religious acts and that is bad somehow. Double standards if you ask me.
 
I just wish he would cut most of the Christian references out of his speeches. Considering how much of the Muslim world already views Bush as a religious fanatic, I think it would be wise for him to tone down his religious profile. That doesn't mean he has to stop being a Christian, of course, only that he should keep that faith private.

After all, he *is* supposed to be looking after the wellbeing of this nation first and foremost, and I don't recall it being in America's best interest to be viewed as a crusader-state.
 
" Aides say the president?s quiet but fervent Christian faith gives him strength but does not dictate policy. He?s only seemed like preacher in chief, they say, because of what one called ?a confluence of events?: the horrors of 9-11, the terror alerts and the Columbia shuttle explosion."
 
Originally posted by: exp
I just wish he would cut most of the Christian references out of his speeches. Considering how much of the Muslim world already views Bush as a religious fanatic, I think it would be wise for him to tone down his religious profile. That doesn't mean he has to stop being a Christian, of course, only that he should keep that faith private.

After all, he *is* supposed to be looking after the wellbeing of this nation first and foremost, and I don't recall it being in America's best interest to be viewed as a crusader-state.
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But praying for the Nation, cannot be a bad thing..

I think asking god for help protecting the wellbeing of the nation cannot be a bad thing either...
 
Originally posted by: Babbles
While I am not a practicing Christian, I do not understand how somebody could be 'wrong' in practicing and studying their beliefs.

Liberals liked to say how Clinton's sex acts in the White House were personal, yet it gets to Bush's religious acts and that is bad somehow. Double standards if you ask me.
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what peoplare afraid of if Bush starts making his decisions based on his own religious belives
 
Originally posted by: bjc112
Originally posted by: exp
I just wish he would cut most of the Christian references out of his speeches. Considering how much of the Muslim world already views Bush as a religious fanatic, I think it would be wise for him to tone down his religious profile. That doesn't mean he has to stop being a Christian, of course, only that he should keep that faith private.

After all, he *is* supposed to be looking after the wellbeing of this nation first and foremost, and I don't recall it being in America's best interest to be viewed as a crusader-state.
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But praying for the Nation, cannot be a bad thing..

I think asking god for help protecting the wellbeing of the nation cannot be a bad thing either...
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Him praying for the nation is stupid just like athletes who say God gave them the strength to win.
 
Originally posted by: Babbles
While I am not a practicing Christian, I do not understand how somebody could be 'wrong' in practicing and studying their beliefs.

Liberals liked to say how Clinton's sex acts in the White House were personal, yet it gets to Bush's religious acts and that is bad somehow. Double standards if you ask me.
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Did Clinton remind everyone about his sex acts every speech?? Does Bush remind everyone of his faith every speech??
Does Bush and his team change titles like "Axis of hatred" to "Axis of evil" because religious imagery is what they like to use??
Edit:
See my sig. as well
 
But praying for the Nation, cannot be a bad thing..

I think asking god for help protecting the wellbeing of the nation cannot be a bad thing either...
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Last time I checked Christians believed that prayers were just as effective when said privately (or even in one's head) as when plastered all over TV sets around the world.

The problem is not Bush's praying itself, it is the effect that his systematic attempt to portray America has God's chosen country is having on our image in the rest of the world.
 
Originally posted by: exp
But praying for the Nation, cannot be a bad thing..

I think asking god for help protecting the wellbeing of the nation cannot be a bad thing either...
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Last time I checked Christians believed that prayers were just as effective when said privately (or even in one's head) as when plastered all over TV sets around the world.

The problem is not Bush's praying itself, it is the effect that his systematic attempt to portray America has God's chosen country is having on our image in the rest of the world.
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Exactly,

But he rarely or never has prayed in public on TV that i have seen...

 
wonder how people would react if for some reason the next president would be muslim and would be thanking allah in all his speeches
 
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
I think the poll is worded wrong:

Does George W. Bush's religious faith inappropriately dictate policy?

Yes. Church and state are supposed to be separated.

No. What's wrong with bringing morality to the White House?

I don't know.
Click to expand...

Morality and religion can be seperate issues IMHO.
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They are. Very good point to put out there.
 
He has the right to, just as anyone else would have the right to express their own beliefs if they were in his position.
 
Originally posted by: exp
I just wish he would cut most of the Christian references out of his speeches. Considering how much of the Muslim world already views Bush as a religious fanatic, I think it would be wise for him to tone down his religious profile. That doesn't mean he has to stop being a Christian, of course, only that he should keep that faith private.

After all, he *is* supposed to be looking after the wellbeing of this nation first and foremost, and I don't recall it being in America's best interest to be viewed as a crusader-state.
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Well I guess those muslims would be experts on religious fanatics wouldn't they. Maybe you forget but it is the Muslim fanatics that are attacking the US not the christian fanatics that are attacking the Muslims. What a peculiarly slanted view you have developed of the christian-Muslim relationship.
 
Originally posted by: everman
He has the right to, just as anyone else would have the right to express their own beliefs if they were in his position.
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Exactly, I shouldn't be forced to quit praying just because a camera is shoved in my face.
 
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