Anubis
No Lifer
yea im like you i love the NCAA all good fun, and ive suffered watching teh Bruins Fusk things up for years, just like every other boston team, o well i still watch
the problem is that the teams that are winning are built as a team to win the cup. not to draw in crowds or tons of money or ratings. hockey players and owners and coaches and others want the cup. sure they like the cash but most have a dream since they were a kid to win a cup.
now the organizations that spend the cash on the superstars, like the rangers, detroit, and dallas... arent winning since they took the approach of get the best guys to draw the crowds and make the revenue and hopefully they will win the cup.
in the late 90s, that was working. but then the devils came back with an actual team and win in 2000 like they did in 95. now other teamscaught on and we have the finals we have now. ive watched every game and it has been a hell of a series. some of the best hockey ive seen in a while. but since the two teams in it arent raking in the cash for the nhl, its getting on their nerves.
the first article posted, i think, has some good points but skews a few more things out of proportion.
as posted above...the nhl definately needs to axe bettman. change is good and he has been the same for too long.
im sure all sports will start to suffer more now that pop culture crap like american idol and mtv are becoming more popular to watch than go outside and a play a sport and or go watch a professional team.
oh yeh...blame dubya too...he has to have had done something to this too
now the organizations that spend the cash on the superstars, like the rangers, detroit, and dallas... arent winning since they took the approach of get the best guys to draw the crowds and make the revenue and hopefully they will win the cup.
in the late 90s, that was working. but then the devils came back with an actual team and win in 2000 like they did in 95. now other teamscaught on and we have the finals we have now. ive watched every game and it has been a hell of a series. some of the best hockey ive seen in a while. but since the two teams in it arent raking in the cash for the nhl, its getting on their nerves.
the first article posted, i think, has some good points but skews a few more things out of proportion.
as posted above...the nhl definately needs to axe bettman. change is good and he has been the same for too long.
im sure all sports will start to suffer more now that pop culture crap like american idol and mtv are becoming more popular to watch than go outside and a play a sport and or go watch a professional team.
oh yeh...blame dubya too...he has to have had done something to this too
they also want to allow touching up to the blue line to avoid the offsides
also to open up play and avoid a trap they should eliminate calling two line passes. there would be a lot more breakaways and open play if you can pass from inside your zone to a guy just outside your offensive zone
BTW, I'd like to add that the current Cup finals is one of the best case scenarios for fans (not the NHL). You have two teams that are playing an open style and the hockey is simply incredibly entertaining. This final is so much better than the Anaheim vs New Jersey trapfest we had last year. Hopefully, coaches will take notice that the trap is only a decent solution if you have a sh!t team with no talent.
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Heh the first thing that comes to mind with changes like this that would open up breakaway opportunities one after another... well those old records in the books won't stand for very long... kinda takes away from others who had to play by the rules... (though with less clutching / grabbing and traps)
Thump553
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For the past decade or so the NHL has been on a policy of transferring or forming new franchises in southern US cities and abandoning the Canadian and established franchises. The belief was to grow interest in the sport while retaining the old fanbase.
This policy has been a total and dismal failure. Ice hockey in places like Tampa is more akin to roller derby than a real sport. Old fans, like myself, no longer watch NHL games when the local franchise is uprooted.
Thuggery is another major turnoff in the NHL today. Too often the games seem to center around scripted fights, like "professional wrestling." Again, a turn off to sports fans.
I'm no longer interested at all in the NHL and could care less if the entire league implodes. College hockey is a lot more interesting to me.
This policy has been a total and dismal failure. Ice hockey in places like Tampa is more akin to roller derby than a real sport. Old fans, like myself, no longer watch NHL games when the local franchise is uprooted.
Thuggery is another major turnoff in the NHL today. Too often the games seem to center around scripted fights, like "professional wrestling." Again, a turn off to sports fans.
I'm no longer interested at all in the NHL and could care less if the entire league implodes. College hockey is a lot more interesting to me.
What they ought to do is call the game as it's supposed to be called. Ten years ago you couldnt put a stick on someone without getting a penalty. Nowadays you can mug a player all you want and it's OK, as long as they dont fall down. Wah-lah, instant flow to the game.
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For future reference... it's "voila".
I'm curious... did they finish their bodychecks like they do today 10 years ago ? I don't remember seeing Wayne or Mario getting nailed into the boards like Sakic, Kariya, Modano do these days... it's a lot rougher out there and if you're gonna call everything... you may as well take checking out of the game and call it basketball. Those guys were given a ton of time and space. In order to win (and not let a guy score 4 goals on you in 1 night), you have to play the body... it's still part of the game. Clutching and grabbing, no... but tight checking and harmless hacks to the hands to let them know you're there can't be taken away...
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What I don't understand really... hockey is a unique sport. By that I mean you grow into it at a very young age and you play the game because you love it... in most cases since age 3-5. Your teammates are your family. There's a special comraderie amongst players (I can feel it in the locker room)... opposing players say hello to you for no reason other than because you play the game you enjoy equally. What made these professional players (the same kids who grew up on a frozen pond playing the game for endless hours till dark) think they can take millions and still demand more ? The damned players association needs to realize what's good for the game. Set the cap, bring in whoever it is that still wants to play in this league... cause I know there will be plenty.
Are you sure that is not the smell of the moldy equipment
Cheers,
Aquaman <<<<<<<< gets his equipment professionally cleaned
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LOL... I haven't washed my $#!T ever... I played 7 games of ice hockey 2 weekends ago (24 hour tournament) and I was regretting putting those shin guards on more and more after each game. It was getting pretty nasty.Originally posted by: Aquaman
Are you sure that is not the smell of the moldy equipment
Cheers,
Aquaman <<<<<<<< gets his equipment professionally cleaned
It's true though... there's a certain level of respect in the game that just doesn't exist for any other sport. Money shouldn't be able to ruin this game but apparently unions are capable of anything. :|
Originally posted by: rh71
LOL... I haven't washed my $#!T ever... I played 7 games of ice hockey 2 weekends ago (24 hour tournament) and I was regretting putting those shin guards on more and more after each game. It was getting pretty nasty.Originally posted by: Aquaman
Are you sure that is not the smell of the moldy equipment
Cheers,
Aquaman <<<<<<<< gets his equipment professionally cleaned
It's true though... there's a certain level of respect in the game that just doesn't exist for any other sport. Money shouldn't be able to ruin this game but apparently unions are capable of anything. :|
Get it celaned twice a year if you play often. Some placees use ozone & soe placees have equipment washers & driers. Well worth it.
Cheers,
Aquaman
So sad... it's a shame. This may actually kill hockey... and too many people don't like the sport because it's "complicated"...
I think the main reason is that you don't really see kids play it or as extracurricular in HS. That's why people know how football, baseball, and basketball work.
I think the main reason is that you don't really see kids play it or as extracurricular in HS. That's why people know how football, baseball, and basketball work.
The NHL cannot afford to go on haitus for a year, not with the amount of alternative forms of entertainment out there. They've spent too much time and money in past 10 years of marketing and building thier product to have it go to waste like this... But then again, it might not be able to afford to opperate at this rate for much longer either.
<-- Life long fan of hockey, the Vancouver Canucks, and the NHL.
<-- Life long fan of hockey, the Vancouver Canucks, and the NHL.
I will watch hockey until the day I die.
The players are way overpaid for the money the teams bring in. Hardly any teams make any money because of the PA.
Hockey is also a sport that is not easily taken up by youngsters. The amount of time and capital parents have to invest to play the game is far above and beyond almost all other "major" sports. There is no easy way to play a pick up game of ice hockey. So (not to stereotype) most of the lower income bracket demographic of America cannot participate.
Where as with baseball, all you need to do is hand your kid your old mitt, get some cleats and sell some overpriced candybars at friday night bowling leagues.
I've seen people say that hockey is too complicated? Comon, if you can understand basketball, you can understand hockey just as easy.
Scoring is too low? I suppose, but that's the game. On the opposite spectrum scoring in basketball is too HIGH. Extremely boring.
Either which way, I was born a hockey fan, I'll die one.
The players are way overpaid for the money the teams bring in. Hardly any teams make any money because of the PA.
Hockey is also a sport that is not easily taken up by youngsters. The amount of time and capital parents have to invest to play the game is far above and beyond almost all other "major" sports. There is no easy way to play a pick up game of ice hockey. So (not to stereotype) most of the lower income bracket demographic of America cannot participate.
Where as with baseball, all you need to do is hand your kid your old mitt, get some cleats and sell some overpriced candybars at friday night bowling leagues.
I've seen people say that hockey is too complicated? Comon, if you can understand basketball, you can understand hockey just as easy.
Scoring is too low? I suppose, but that's the game. On the opposite spectrum scoring in basketball is too HIGH. Extremely boring.
Either which way, I was born a hockey fan, I'll die one.
nba > *, but i'd hate to see the nhl go.
the reason why not as many people like hockey is that watching it on tv sucks. it's the most boring experience outside of watching the senior pga tour. it's a great live experience, but not everybody can make it out to a game.
the reason why not as many people like hockey is that watching it on tv sucks. it's the most boring experience outside of watching the senior pga tour. it's a great live experience, but not everybody can make it out to a game.
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