NFL Week 6 thread

[IndyColtsFan]

I'm a Titans fan and still think this game is so damn boring.

This game illustrated why the Titans are the best team in the AFC South this year. I won't be shocked if the Colts beat them once, but I will be shocked if the Colts win the AFC South.

 

[lupi]

Just remember, regardless of how bad you thought the game was light night, the overnight ratings show it still beating playoff baseball.

 

[BoomerD]

This game illustrated why the Titans are the best team in the AFC South this year. I won't be shocked if the Colts beat them once, but I will be shocked if the Colts win the AFC South.

From what I watched of the game, (most of the first half, only a few minutes of the second half) it looked to me like Tennessee didn't win the game because they are so good...but rather because the Jags were just so bad.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

From what I watched of the game, (most of the first half, only a few minutes of the second half) it looked to me like Tennessee didn't win the game because they are so good...but rather because the Jags were just so bad.

The Jags beat the Colts this year.

 

[AMDZen]

The Jags beat the Colts this year.

And the Bronco's beat the Titans pretty handily, and should of won yesterday against the Jets. However they also got beat pretty handily by the Colts and Jags.

Its called the NFL, any given sunday. The Texans are clearly the best team in the AFC south any way. ANd I agree that the Jags have been mostly beating themselves.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

And the Bronco's beat the Titans pretty handily, and should of won yesterday against the Jets. However they also got beat pretty handily by the Colts and Jags.

Its called the NFL, any given sunday. The Texans are clearly the best team in the AFC south any way. ANd I agree that the Jags have been mostly beating themselves.

The Texans will collapse.

 

[BeauJangles]

And with your analysis of Rodgers, Mike Singletary is curled up in the fetal position and crying his eyes out. "Why, Mike Nolan. WHY?!?!?!"

For a position that is so important to a good football team, it is amazing how bad teams are at drafting quarterbacks.

Interesting analysis has been done on QBs and their transition into the pros and, so far, it seems indicative that keeping a quarterback out for his first season or two generally leads to more success than just throwing him into the fire. Rodgers, Rivers, and Brady are all examples of guys who sat out then stepped in and were immediately effective. Of course, there are always the exceptions such as Payton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger.

It seems likely to me that QBs who get the opportunity to sit benefit in two ways. First, they get to see how a veteran works, work with the guy in practice, and generally gain NFL knowledge before they step on the field. Second, I have a feeling that if we looked at teams where their now-starting QB sat his first one or two seasons, we'd find that they were generally decent football teams. They aren't in shambles like Buffalo is today or St Louis was a few years ago, so when they actually get an opportunity to start, they're stepping into a team that is primed for mediocrity or better, not epic failure.

 

[gimmewhitecastles]

For a position that is so important to a good football team, it is amazing how bad teams are at drafting quarterbacks.

Interesting analysis has been done on QBs and their transition into the pros and, so far, it seems indicative that keeping a quarterback out for his first season or two generally leads to more success than just throwing him into the fire. Rodgers, Rivers, and Brady are all examples of guys who sat out then stepped in and were immediately effective. Of course, there are always the exceptions such as Payton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger.

It seems likely to me that QBs who get the opportunity to sit benefit in two ways. First, they get to see how a veteran works, work with the guy in practice, and generally gain NFL knowledge before they step on the field. Second, I have a feeling that if we looked at teams where their now-starting QB sat his first one or two seasons, we'd find that they were generally decent football teams. They aren't in shambles like Buffalo is today or St Louis was a few years ago, so when they actually get an opportunity to start, they're stepping into a team that is primed for mediocrity or better, not epic failure.

Sam Bradford and Mark Sanchez is looking like they are working out pretty well. Seems like good running games also help out the QB.

 

[BeauJangles]

Sam Bradford and Mark Sanchez is looking like they are working out pretty well. Seems like good running games also help out the QB.

Yeah, there are a lot of examples for both sides of the debate. I believe (and I'll happily stand corrected if someone can dig out one of the analytical articles) though that history favors sitting your QB for at least a year. That skew might be because teams that can afford to sit their newly drafted QB are just better.

As for Sanchez, he's sorta a weird case in that the Jets weren't awful when they drafted him (9-7 the previous year), but they had an immediate need for a QB.

Bradford and the Rams have been surprisingly decent. I don't think many people were expecting this kind of production from him.

Anyway, the jury is still out on the best way to draft and handle new QBs. Nothing is definitive.

 

[lupi]

Can't really use the "they beat the colts" thing this year, as that isn't really a measuring stick anymore.

 

[BeauJangles]

Can't really use the "they beat the colts" thing this year, as that isn't really a measuring stick anymore.

Peyton manning is going to drag that Colts team into the playoffs this year.

 

[AMDZen]

The Texans will collapse.

We'll see if Arian Foster runs all over you again after the bye week.

#1 RB in the league right now
#1 WR when healthy
Arguably a top 5 QB and top 5 TE when healthy.

The team has been through a lot of injuries but if they get healthy and the defense figures it out, they will finish first in the division. I think

 

[AstroManLuca]

Can't really use the "they beat the colts" thing this year, as that isn't really a measuring stick anymore.

I don't like the "X got beaten by Y, Y got beaten by Z" argument anyway. It just doesn't mean anything. I mean, Cleveland beat Cincinnati, and Cincinnati beat Baltimore, and Baltimore beat Pittsburgh, so obviously the Browns are superior to the Steelers.

 

[zinfamous]

We'll see if Arian Foster runs all over you again after the bye week.

#1 RB in the league right now
#1 WR when healthy
Arguably a top 5 QB and top 5 TE when healthy.

The team has been through a lot of injuries but if they get healthy and the defense figures it out, they will finish first in the division. I think

the problem with the Texans is that they need a compliment or two for Super Mario. He obviously can't do everything for that defense.

They certainly figured out how to score, though.

 

[lupi]

Heard that the fines were just released; 75k harrison, 50K robison and merriweather

 

[AMDZen]

the problem with the Texans is that they need a compliment or two for Super Mario. He obviously can't do everything for that defense.

They certainly figured out how to score, though.

How about the defensive rookie of the year that just got healthy last week.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Can't really use the "they beat the colts" thing this year, as that isn't really a measuring stick anymore.

They beat them in Carr's last year there too. It isn't a first.

 

[lupi]

Peyton manning is going to drag that Colts team into the playoffs this year.

first year in awhile I wouldn't be so sure of that.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

We'll see if Arian Foster runs all over you again after the bye week.

In case you haven't noticed, the Colts D sucks.

The team has been through a lot of injuries but if they get healthy and the defense figures it out, they will finish first in the division. I think

We'll see. I think the Titans will win the division.

 

[Fingolfin269]

And the Bronco's beat the Titans pretty handily,

Uhh did you watch the Titans/Broncos game? The Broncos won 26-20 and the go ahead score was with around 3 minutes left. And I've been bitching about that game ever since... we gave that one to the Broncos.

 

[Fingolfin269]

This game illustrated why the Titans are the best team in the AFC South this year. I won't be shocked if the Colts beat them once, but I will be shocked if the Colts win the AFC South.

It would be nice if you are right. The passing game is starting to show some positive flashes. If they could just get it to be somewhat consistent that will only help make CJ even more dangerous. And I think the defense is good enough. It's not superior but it is probably top 10.

 

[spidey07]

In case you haven't noticed, the Colts D sucks.



We'll see. I think the Titans will win the division.

Colts win the Division. Remember the start of last year where there were 3 games Colts really should have lost against Texans, Jacksonville, and another team?

Same thing this season, except they lost them.

Remember what Colts D did to Denver this year, completely kept them outta the endzone multiple times in the redzone. I wonder what Colts redzone D is ranking wise? Every other stat, sure they suck, but how about redzone D?

 

[BUTCH1]

The Jags beat the Colts this year.

The Jag's ALWAYS play the Colts tough at home, I've been to 2 games, usually one of the few times a season the place sells out..

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Colts win the Division. Remember the start of last year where there were 3 games Colts really should have lost against Texans, Jacksonville, and another team?

Same thing this season, except they lost them.

And that is enough to cost them the division.

Remember what Colts D did to Denver this year, completely kept them outta the endzone multiple times in the redzone. I wonder what Colts redzone D is ranking wise? Every other stat, sure they suck, but how about redzone D?

That was against Denver -- just one game and against a team with a lackluster running game and an idiot head coach who inexplicably kept going for it on 4th when he didn't need to and to top it all off, called bad plays on those 4th downs. They won't have similar success against Chris Johnson.

I have no confidence in Larry Coyer.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

The Jag's ALWAYS play the Colts tough at home, I've been to 2 games, usually one of the few times a season the place sells out..

Yes, but you may have missed what I said in another thread. The Jags do always play the Colts tough. However, the big difference this time was that David Garrard, not Jones-Drew, beat us. I could almost live with MJD beating us, but Garrard beating us is not good. The Colts usually have a strong secondary and it has looked like ass this year. I think that is why I am pessimistic this year.