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JasonSix78

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Originally posted by: Deeko


Panthers:
Had a rough season last year with all the injuries. Sure Mushin is gone, but Steve Smith is back. If they can stay healthy, they should win their division. 11-5, NFC south champs

Steven Davis is back training with the team. It's a possibility that he may be able to make the season opener. I've been a long time fan and I hope they continue this season with what they were doing at the end of last season.

-Jason
 

habib89

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i'm a 49er fan for life, and it really sucks to see them hit rock bottom last season.. they'll be better this year for sure, but that's not saying much..

smith will be good, but no quaterback is really that great in their rookie year, with some exceptions like big ben...

the 9ers made a lot of upgrades and a lot of different positions, but we still need more...

i think the transition to a 3-4 defense will be good for them cause they have soem good linebackers.. when they're healthy, but it'll take time for them to adjust...

i think i like nolan's decisions thus far.. i mean he hasn't done much really, except revamp the entire coaching staff... but he's an improvement over last year's coach...

niners won't be great.. they may not even be good, but at least they're on the right track to rebuilding
 

mrchan

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Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
I think the Vikings will royally suck this year. Culpepper no longer has Moss. Williamson is a rookie..can't bank on him. Also, Mike Tice is still your coach. I can honestly say he is probably the worst coach in the NFL. He has no control over his players.

They won games without Moss last year. The rest of the offense is still good, Moss wasn't their only receiver, and Culpepper is still a great QB. WR's have the easiest time transitioning to the NFL of any player so Williamson could feasibly have a good year, especially with such a solid team around him. Plus you can't deny how much better their defense will be.

WRs have the easiest transition? No way. For every Roy Williams there are a dozen Reggie Williams. WRs have the toughest transition besides QBs and it usually takes them 3 years to produce up to their potential.


Yes, but the top of draft WR's usually are the ones who contribute early. See Boldin, Calico, Branch, Williams etc...

Boldin was a 2nd round pick, their first rounder was Bryant Johnson, who has yet to prove his worth.

Deion Branch, 2nd rounder - 489 yards and 2 TDs his first year. Hardly a blip on the radar.

Calico - 2nd round pick - 297 yards, 4 TDs. yawn.

Roy Williams had a great year, but again, he is the exception, not the rule.

WRs taken in the first round:

2004: Fitz, Roy Williams, Reggie Williams, Lee Evans, Micheal Clayton, Micheal Jenkins, Rasahun Woods. This was an exception year with so many rookies (Roy, Lee Evans and Clayton) all playing really well. Still leaves Fitz, Reggie, Jenkins and Rashaun Woods, over half the first round picks, that have yet to make an impact worth of 1st round status.

2003: Charles Rogers, Andre Johnson, Bryant Johnson. Rogers got injured. B Johnson did nothing. Andre Johnson started emerging late. Still, just 1 of 3.

2002: Stallworth, Lelie, Walker. None but Walker have made an impact, and that took his 3rd season to do it.

I'm not saying WRs can't produce in their rookie year, but it is the exception, not the rule.


 
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Ahhh, I love this time year. When everybody is dillusional about how their team did terribly last year and will climb up from the trenches to be competitive this season.

As for my pick... Browns to win it all.:D
 

Deeko

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Are you kidding me? That's a great ratio. How many QB's takin in the first round PRODUCE in their first years? Offensive linemen? CB's? Face it, WR's have an easier transition than other positions.

However, I think you're wrong about Charles Rogers, he's definitely a good player and DID show it his rookie year before he got hurt. And you keep ignoring second rounders, why? The fact that a guy like Boldin makes an impact his first year only furthers my point.
 

Nocturnal

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How can you guys forget that the Steelers had the best record in the NFL but were beaten by the Champs? The Steelers are going to be a force to reckon with, Big Ben and Jerome Bettis and the rest of the crew are going to clean house this coming season.
 

Reckoner

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The Patriots for the most part UPGRADED this season (if that's even possible). How can anyone not put them as the Favorites again?
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
I think the Vikings will royally suck this year. Culpepper no longer has Moss. Williamson is a rookie..can't bank on him. Also, Mike Tice is still your coach. I can honestly say he is probably the worst coach in the NFL. He has no control over his players.

They won games without Moss last year. The rest of the offense is still good, Moss wasn't their only receiver, and Culpepper is still a great QB. WR's have the easiest time transitioning to the NFL of any player so Williamson could feasibly have a good year, especially with such a solid team around him. Plus you can't deny how much better their defense will be.

WRs have the easiest transition? No way. For every Roy Williams there are a dozen Reggie Williams. WRs have the toughest transition besides QBs and it usually takes them 3 years to produce up to their potential.


Yes, but the top of draft WR's usually are the ones who contribute early. See Boldin, Calico, Branch, Williams etc...

Boldin was a 2nd round pick, their first rounder was Bryant Johnson, who has yet to prove his worth.

Deion Branch, 2nd rounder - 489 yards and 2 TDs his first year. Hardly a blip on the radar.

Calico - 2nd round pick - 297 yards, 4 TDs. yawn.

Roy Williams had a great year, but again, he is the exception, not the rule.

WRs taken in the first round:

2004: Fitz, Roy Williams, Reggie Williams, Lee Evans, Micheal Clayton, Micheal Jenkins, Rasahun Woods. This was an exception year with so many rookies (Roy, Lee Evans and Clayton) all playing really well. Still leaves Fitz, Reggie, Jenkins and Rashaun Woods, over half the first round picks, that have yet to make an impact worth of 1st round status.

2003: Charles Rogers, Andre Johnson, Bryant Johnson. Rogers got injured. B Johnson did nothing. Andre Johnson started emerging late. Still, just 1 of 3.

2002: Stallworth, Lelie, Walker. None but Walker have made an impact, and that took his 3rd season to do it.

I'm not saying WRs can't produce in their rookie year, but it is the exception, not the rule.

Colbert did quite well in his first year here in Charlotte.
 

AmigaMan

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
I think the Vikings will royally suck this year. Culpepper no longer has Moss. Williamson is a rookie..can't bank on him. Also, Mike Tice is still your coach. I can honestly say he is probably the worst coach in the NFL. He has no control over his players.

They won games without Moss last year. The rest of the offense is still good, Moss wasn't their only receiver, and Culpepper is still a great QB. WR's have the easiest time transitioning to the NFL of any player so Williamson could feasibly have a good year, especially with such a solid team around him. Plus you can't deny how much better their defense will be.

WRs have the easiest transition? No way. For every Roy Williams there are a dozen Reggie Williams. WRs have the toughest transition besides QBs and it usually takes them 3 years to produce up to their potential.


Yes, but the top of draft WR's usually are the ones who contribute early. See Boldin, Calico, Branch, Williams etc...

Boldin was a 2nd round pick, their first rounder was Bryant Johnson, who has yet to prove his worth.

Deion Branch, 2nd rounder - 489 yards and 2 TDs his first year. Hardly a blip on the radar.

Calico - 2nd round pick - 297 yards, 4 TDs. yawn.

Roy Williams had a great year, but again, he is the exception, not the rule.

WRs taken in the first round:

2004: Fitz, Roy Williams, Reggie Williams, Lee Evans, Micheal Clayton, Micheal Jenkins, Rasahun Woods. This was an exception year with so many rookies (Roy, Lee Evans and Clayton) all playing really well. Still leaves Fitz, Reggie, Jenkins and Rashaun Woods, over half the first round picks, that have yet to make an impact worth of 1st round status.

2003: Charles Rogers, Andre Johnson, Bryant Johnson. Rogers got injured. B Johnson did nothing. Andre Johnson started emerging late. Still, just 1 of 3.

2002: Stallworth, Lelie, Walker. None but Walker have made an impact, and that took his 3rd season to do it.

I'm not saying WRs can't produce in their rookie year, but it is the exception, not the rule.

Colbert did quite well in his first year here in Charlotte.

but unfortunately he plays for Carolina which is a small market team and as such doesn't get the attention that other teams get. However, that just means it'll be easier for us to sneak back up and surprise everyone again. I'm all for a repeat of the Cardiac Cats SB season!
 

BRObedoza

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Super Bowl

Niners 31 Patriots 14, Alex Smith throws for 3 td's, 335 yards, super bowl mvp.

yeah yeah stfu :p
 

Spydermag68

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A prediction for Denver Broncos:
6-2 for the first 8 games
4-4 for the second 8 games
Is a Wildcard team but goes home with a 28-14 lost
 

mrchan

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Are you kidding me? That's a great ratio. How many QB's takin in the first round PRODUCE in their first years? Offensive linemen? CB's? Face it, WR's have an easier transition than other positions.

However, I think you're wrong about Charles Rogers, he's definitely a good player and DID show it his rookie year before he got hurt. And you keep ignoring second rounders, why? The fact that a guy like Boldin makes an impact his first year only furthers my point.


I didn't say WRs have an easier transition than QBs, in fact, QBs have the hardest transition of them all.

Offensive and Defensive linemen routinely start as rookies, and play really well. RBs are impact players from the first game, they probably have the easiest transition of any group.

The toughest are probably QB, CB and WR.

If you want to add second round picks, the stats get even worse.

2004:
Devery Henderson - nada, zip, zilch
Darius Watts - 385 for 1. yawn
Keary Colbert - 754 and 5. mostly due to steve smith injury. still just average.

2003:
Taylor Jacobs - 37 yards, 1 TD. whoopee.
Bethel Johnson - 209 and 2. boring.
Anquan Boldin - 1377 and 8. absolutely incredible. best rookie WR since terry glenn or randy moss.
Tyrone Calcio - 297 and 4. nothing.

2002:
Jabar Gaffney - 483 and 1
Josh Reed - 512 and 2
Tim Carter - 37 and 0
Andre Davis - 420 and 6
Reche Caldwell - 208 and 3
Antwaan Randle El - 489 and 2
Antonio Bryant - 733 and 6. pretty good for a rookie, just average for a WR.
Deion Branch - 489 and 2.

2nd round picks in the last three years with over 1000 yards? That'd be one. One out of FIFTEEN.

Add in the first round picks:

2004: Fitz, Roy, Reggie, Lee Evans, Clayton, Jenkins, Woods.
2003: Rogers, A Johnson, B Johnson
2002: Stallworth, Lelie, Walker.

Total 1st and 2nd round WRs that made an impact rookie year in the last 3 years? 4. Boldin, Roy Williams, Lee Evans, Micheal Clayton.

FOUR out of TWENTY NINE.

yeah, great ratio.
 

Doboji

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Some fans need to put down the crack pipe.... I can tell you definitively who will suck this year...

Chicago Bears
SF 49ers
Cleveland Browns
Buffalo Bills

Surprises this year....

Arizona Cards
Dallas Cowboys

-Max
 

Deeko

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If a rookie scores 5+ TD's i'd call that making an impact. Considering he's probably a slot player and still producing, thats impressive. You don't need to be top 10 in the leauge to have a good season.

Man up and admit it mrchan.
 

mrchan

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5 TDs is an impact player? Are you kidding? This is what I get for thinking I could get a good football discussion going on here. Man up and admit it? The stats don't lie.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
The Patriots for the most part UPGRADED this season (if that's even possible). How can anyone not put them as the Favorites again?

The loss of the Defensive coach will be a huge hit
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: mrchan
5 TDs is an impact player? Are you kidding? This is what I get for thinking I could get a good football discussion going on here. Man up and admit it? The stats don't lie.

For a rookie to be considering making an impact, yes. No one ever said a rookie had to lead the league to make an impact. Most QB's don't even start. Alot of o-linemen don't either. Many CB's start but get burned. 5 TD's isn't a bad season at ALL for a rookie playing in the slot.