ThePresence
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I'm a huge Giants fan, but I work in Philly. You won't believe the amount of abuse I put up with. 
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
I think the Vikings will royally suck this year. Culpepper no longer has Moss. Williamson is a rookie..can't bank on him. Also, Mike Tice is still your coach. I can honestly say he is probably the worst coach in the NFL. He has no control over his players.
They won games without Moss last year. The rest of the offense is still good, Moss wasn't their only receiver, and Culpepper is still a great QB. WR's have the easiest time transitioning to the NFL of any player so Williamson could feasibly have a good year, especially with such a solid team around him. Plus you can't deny how much better their defense will be.
WRs have the easiest transition? No way. For every Roy Williams there are a dozen Reggie Williams. WRs have the toughest transition besides QBs and it usually takes them 3 years to produce up to their potential.
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: murphy55d
The only starters Pittsburgh lost were 2 mediocre offensive linemen, and the ever-erratic Plaxico Burress, but people have them missing the playoffs? Insane.
Plaxico was a HUGE part of their offense. Plaxico and Big Ben worked on "secret plays" where Plaxico would abandon the route, and run a different route. This was HUGE in helping out Ben. The offense will be easily be worse without him. They might make the playoffs next year, but they aren't a contender.
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
I think the Vikings will royally suck this year. Culpepper no longer has Moss. Williamson is a rookie..can't bank on him. Also, Mike Tice is still your coach. I can honestly say he is probably the worst coach in the NFL. He has no control over his players.
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
The Vikes lost Onterrio Smith for the whole season because of the Wizzinator, so I guess Bennett is their starting RB now?
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
The Vikes lost Onterrio Smith for the whole season because of the Wizzinator, so I guess Bennett is their starting RB now?
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
I think the Vikings will royally suck this year. Culpepper no longer has Moss. Williamson is a rookie..can't bank on him. Also, Mike Tice is still your coach. I can honestly say he is probably the worst coach in the NFL. He has no control over his players.
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
NFC:
East: Eagles
North: Green Bay
South: Atlanta
West: Seattle
Wildcards: New York Giants, Detroit Lions
AFC:
East: New York Jets
North: Cincinatti
South: Jacksonville
West: Kansas City
Wildcard: Indianapolis, Buffalo
New England loses both coordinators, has a rough year. Pittsburgh, Roethlisberger suffers from a sophmore slump.
Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
The Vikes lost Onterrio Smith for the whole season because of the Wizzinator, so I guess Bennett is their starting RB now?
Bennet has 2x the speed of Smith...Oh also he is more intelligent
Ausm
Originally posted by: desk
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: murphy55d
The only starters Pittsburgh lost were 2 mediocre offensive linemen, and the ever-erratic Plaxico Burress, but people have them missing the playoffs? Insane.
Plaxico was a HUGE part of their offense. Plaxico and Big Ben worked on "secret plays" where Plaxico would abandon the route, and run a different route. This was HUGE in helping out Ben. The offense will be easily be worse without him. They might make the playoffs next year, but they aren't a contender.
you have no idea what your talking about. ben has denied having any "secret plays" with burress. and no, plex was not that huge in helping ben. he normally dropped half of the passes that went his way or tripped over his own feet instead of running into the endzone.
the steelers got a stud of a tight end from the draft who can still give ben a big target and they picked up a speed guy from the 49ers that can stretch the field.
if ben plays like he did last year, they should be better then ever.
Originally posted by: desk
where the h3ll are the steelers....they went 15-1 last year and they dont even make the playoffs this year with their entire team (except for plexiglass) back?![]()
Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: CraigRT
football absolutely sucks, so bad
You must be right, that's why it is the most popular sport in the U.S. with the largest T.V. contract (I'm guessing on that one).
Originally posted by: desk
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: murphy55d
The only starters Pittsburgh lost were 2 mediocre offensive linemen, and the ever-erratic Plaxico Burress, but people have them missing the playoffs? Insane.
Plaxico was a HUGE part of their offense. Plaxico and Big Ben worked on "secret plays" where Plaxico would abandon the route, and run a different route. This was HUGE in helping out Ben. The offense will be easily be worse without him. They might make the playoffs next year, but they aren't a contender.
you have no idea what your talking about. ben has denied having any "secret plays" with burress. and no, plex was not that huge in helping ben. he normally dropped half of the passes that went his way or tripped over his own feet instead of running into the endzone.
the steelers got a stud of a tight end from the draft who can still give ben a big target and they picked up a speed guy from the 49ers that can stretch the field.
if ben plays like he did last year, they should be better then ever.
Originally posted by: iversonyin
NY Giants
Prediction: 0-16
Originally posted by: lilcam
You live in Philly? Are you from Philly?
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: desk
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: murphy55d
The only starters Pittsburgh lost were 2 mediocre offensive linemen, and the ever-erratic Plaxico Burress, but people have them missing the playoffs? Insane.
Plaxico was a HUGE part of their offense. Plaxico and Big Ben worked on "secret plays" where Plaxico would abandon the route, and run a different route. This was HUGE in helping out Ben. The offense will be easily be worse without him. They might make the playoffs next year, but they aren't a contender.
you have no idea what your talking about. ben has denied having any "secret plays" with burress. and no, plex was not that huge in helping ben. he normally dropped half of the passes that went his way or tripped over his own feet instead of running into the endzone.
the steelers got a stud of a tight end from the draft who can still give ben a big target and they picked up a speed guy from the 49ers that can stretch the field.
if ben plays like he did last year, they should be better then ever.
and do you REALLY expect Ben to say "Yes, I ignored the coach's drawn up plays, I decided mine were better." ?
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: iversonyin
NY Giants
Prediction: 0-16
They are way better than they were last year. I think they'll go 9-7.
<---Giants fan
He does. But now he has a legit deep threat, which he did not have last year, and he may actually have more than a fraction of a second to throw it.Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: iversonyin
NY Giants
Prediction: 0-16
They are way better than they were last year. I think they'll go 9-7.
<---Giants fan
Depend...they were banged up last year with injuries. If they stay healthy, they will porbbaly go 9-7. Eli has alot to prove.