NFL player pulled over outside hospital while rushing to be with dying relative

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Oh damn that sucks. They should shoot that *** cop in the head.

And then make the family drive the speed limit and obey every traffic law on the way to the hospital.


(I don't actually wish this upon anybody, however it would be so just)

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: rivan
This cop did what he needed to, to give the person he pulled over a needed attitude adjustment.

THIS is exactly a problem that is all to prevalent in too many police departments... since when did this become law?

Nice creative quoting. :roll:

Originally posted by: NaOH

Originally posted by: rivan
Right. Then the cop would be an incompetent prick.
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My only criticism here is that after benig informed by (I think) hospital staff that there was indeed an emergent situation inside, the cop still followed through on the ticket - mostly because it cost the guy another 6 minutes. He was inconsiderate, but that's the end of it.

You don't think it's over the top to cost him and the husband the last moment they will ever have with a loved one? Just to teach him a lesson about his "attitude" by lecturing him after it was said and done? I would consider that a little more than inconsiderate.

If you watch the video, he doesn't make any threatening gestures and does not even verbally abuse the cop. He is pleading most of the time.

Yes, they were distressed and acting inappropriately (so the cop had every right to be threatened and give them shit at first), but after the cop had the situation calmed down and he found out that everything checked out, he should have hauled ass to let them see the MIL/wife. Was it really necessary to screw them over that much emotionally? I don't know about you guys, but if my mom or wife was laying on her death bed and her stats suddenly plummeted while i was away.....i would be freaked out as hell too, and forever be saddened and despise cops if the thing that held me back from getting up there was some douche bag continuing to lecture me AFTER I was done cooperating and personnel have already confirmed my cause.

Just like the quote, the family was freaked out and distressed. After he got them to calm down and wrote them the ticket. He should have HELPED them with their distress instead of continuing to add on to it.

Hindsight is 20/20. How many times do you think, in any given day, the cop hears a line of shit that's totally untrue? Excuses to get out of any number of things people are doing.

I agree that he could have handled this better. He took 5 minutes too long to finish up - how often do you really think that it will actually boil down to someone dying in that period of time. People - especially people who are afraid/emotional often exaggerate. This time they weren't, but he had absolutely no way of knowing that.

Originally posted by: Number1
News Google Search

Several articles on this incident. There is a lot of outrage and calls for Powel's resignation.

What a tool.

A lot of misplaced outrage, imo.

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: QueBert
if Moats has been a white man, while he still might have gotten a ticket, he would have gotten to see his dying Mother-In-Law before she passed. Police are here to "server & protect" too bad black people tend to be the ones getting served and rarely anything else.

please shut the fuck up

sorry, I know I and I alone made up racial profiling in my head. It's not real, it doesn't exist and no police anywhere in America know anything about it. And if they did I'm sure none would actually use it for criteria at to who they pull over and how they treat them when they do full them over.

why don't you shut the fuck up, it's clear as day why the officer was such a prick.

:roll:

Yeah, and I drove past the cop today doing 33 in a 30 and didn't get a ticket because I'm white.

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Chrono
That is really messed up. I'd be so pissed off if I was him. Seeing a dying relative is definitely very distressing. Cops need to stop focusing on fighting crime and not being dicks all the time. I feel that our tax dollars are wasted at times because I see cops moping around and pulling people for minor items when they should be doing something bigger.

focus on fighting crime? since when? most coops are just revenue generators and clean up after crimes.

You're right. No cops should ever be put on traffic duty. That'll totally fix the problem.


Christ - how many of you f'ing people can't think ahead about the crap that comes out of your mouth? Are you saying the cop should NOT have pulled him over for rolling the red light? What if he'd have been drunk? What if he'd have been t-boned by another car coming the other direction, and killed some people?

Yelling at the cops will never, ever, ever help your situation.

I'd be willing to bet the cop would have been less of a dick if he hadn't immediately been confronted by people not listening to a damned thing he says.

I think you may have a slight reading problem. where did i say take the cops off teh streets? and where did i say the cop should Not pulled him over?

i have said the driver didn't act right. I have said the cop should have changed his attitude and control of the situation when he found out that yes the they were there to see a dying relitive. conisdering there was other police telling him and nurse's telling him. yeah maybe the guy is telling the truth.

instead the cop decided to continue with the show of power and waste time. when he could have let the guy go up. after all he had his license, car and knew where the fuck he was.

You just implied they shouldn't be on the streets - right where I bolded your quote, then again saying they're just revenue generators.

I too said once the cop knew about the situation he should have expedited the whole thing. After hearing that, he was done with the guy within 7 or 8 minutes - far too long imo.

Having his car and his license is no reason to let a guy go - plenty of people will ditch that stuff rather than be arrested.

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Oh damn that sucks. They should shoot that *** cop in the head.

YEAH, BUST A CAP IN HIS ASS, YO. AN EYE FOR... well, missing the loss of my mother-in-law's eye. :roll:

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Oh damn that sucks. They should shoot that *** cop in the head.

And then make the family drive the speed limit and obey every traffic law on the way to the hospital.

(I don't actually wish this upon anybody, however it would be so just)

:roll: Yeah, killing the cop would be TOTALLY just.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Oh damn that sucks. They should shoot that *** cop in the head.

And then make the family drive the speed limit and obey every traffic law on the way to the hospital.

(I don't actually wish this upon anybody, however it would be so just)

:roll: Yeah, killing the cop would be TOTALLY just.

Sorry, that's not exactly what I meant. It would be just if said cop to suffered equally.

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: NSFW

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: NSFW

Originally posted by: leftyman

THIS is exactly a problem that is all to prevalent in too many police departments... since when did this become law?

Since people started expecting not to be charged with all their crimes. If you want a break, show the cop some respect and do what he tells you.

I dont think he expected him to not give him a ticket I think he expected the office to do what the officers BOSS said and I quote:

?When people are in distress, we should come to the rescue,? said Simpson. ?We shouldn?t further their distress"

end of story.

He could have been charged with fleeing and alluding, had his car impounded and probably a lot more. The cop did cut him a break.

Hell, he could have charged with everything in the book, as long as he'd let the Husband see his fucking wife before she died. That's not some small thing. It's not like he missed his son's soccer game. The one person he chose to love the rest of his life was fucking dying while this miserable piece of shit power trip cop gave lectures.

Here's how it should have gone.

Moats jumps out of car with family: "My mother is dying, my mother is dying"
Officer: *Looks around, hmm, we are at a hospital". Give me your ID and we will get you to your mother ASAP.
Officer: *Calling for backup, we've got a 1092*
Officer: Ok, let's go. I'll escort you into the hospital.
Officer: *checks surrounds, appear to be a random assortment of a family, clearly distressed, in a hospital parking lot... there is a good chance this story is legit.

Then he should take them up, watch them. Run the ID. Get backup there. Let them say goodbye to the dying woman. Afterwards write them a simple ticket, apologize for their loss and say good day.


THAT'S FUCKING IT. This lecturing bullshit pisses me off beyond all comprehension. Just imagine this is your mom or wife. You'll never get to say goodbye to her. NEVER.

God damn fucking idiots. I'm so pissed right now.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: rivan
This cop did what he needed to, to give the person he pulled over a needed attitude adjustment.

Nice creative quoting. :roll:


Hindsight is 20/20. How many times do you think, in any given day, the cop hears a line of shit that's totally untrue? Excuses to get out of any number of things people are doing.

I agree that he could have handled this better. He took 5 minutes too long to finish up - how often do you really think that it will actually boil down to someone dying in that period of time. People - especially people who are afraid/emotional often exaggerate. This time they weren't, but he had absolutely no way of knowing that.



A lot of misplaced outrage, imo.

are you fucking kidding me? NO way of knowing?
Pulled into hospital parking lot at 1am... Nurses came out to plead with the cop to let them go in?

The cop even said...
?Attitude?s everything,? he said. ?All you had to do is stop, tell me what was going on. More than likely, I would have let you go.?

This is just a cop on a power trip... and he deserves to get fired.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: NSFW

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: NSFW

Originally posted by: leftyman

THIS is exactly a problem that is all to prevalent in too many police departments... since when did this become law?

Since people started expecting not to be charged with all their crimes. If you want a break, show the cop some respect and do what he tells you.

I dont think he expected him to not give him a ticket I think he expected the office to do what the officers BOSS said and I quote:

?When people are in distress, we should come to the rescue,? said Simpson. ?We shouldn?t further their distress"

end of story.

He could have been charged with fleeing and alluding, had his car impounded and probably a lot more. The cop did cut him a break.

Hell, he could have charged with everything in the book, as long as he'd let the Husband see his fucking wife before she died. That's not some small thing. It's not like he missed his son's soccer game. The one person he chose to love the rest of his life was fucking dying while this miserable piece of shit power trip cop gave lectures.

Here's how it should have gone.

Moats jumps out of car with family: "My mother is dying, my mother is dying"
Officer: *Looks around, hmm, we are at a hospital". Give me your ID and we will get you to your mother ASAP.
Officer: *Calling for backup, we've got a 1092*
Officer: Ok, let's go. I'll escort you into the hospital.
Officer: *checks surrounds, appear to be a random assortment of a family, clearly distressed, in a hospital parking lot... there is a good chance this story is legit.

Then he should take them up, watch them. Run the ID. Get backup there. Let them say goodbye to the dying woman. Afterwards write them a simple ticket, apologize for their loss and say good day.


THAT'S FUCKING IT. This lecturing bullshit pisses me off beyond all comprehension. Just imagine this is your mom or wife. You'll never get to say goodbye to her. NEVER.

God damn fucking idiots. I'm so pissed right now.

I hate to bring it to you but it was his mother in law that was dying. You may want to read the original post again.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: rivan
Hindsight is 20/20. How many times do you think, in any given day, the cop hears a line of shit that's totally untrue? Excuses to get out of any number of things people are doing.

I agree that he could have handled this better. He took 5 minutes too long to finish up - how often do you really think that it will actually boil down to someone dying in that period of time. People - especially people who are afraid/emotional often exaggerate. This time they weren't, but he had absolutely no way of knowing that.

had NO WAY OF KNOWING? ARE YOU INSANE? they stoped in a hospital. he had other officers telling him they had a deying parent. he had NURSE's telling him he. and he still chose to sit in his car and then get out and lecture him! he didnt know? god damn thats just idiotic to say.

Originally posted by: rivan




You just implied they shouldn't be on the streets - right where I bolded your quote, then again saying they're just revenue generators.

I too said once the cop knew about the situation he should have expedited the whole thing. After hearing that, he was done with the guy within 7 or 8 minutes - far too long imo.

Having his car and his license is no reason to let a guy go - plenty of people will ditch that stuff rather than be arrested.

nowhere did i say or impliy they shouldnt be on the streets. i was pointing out that anyone who thinks they are really out trying to stop crime (sure some really are) are misinformed. Traffic cops are out to generate revenue.

you are right just having his license and car is no reasons to let him go. BUT when you put everything together (where they were, the dying mother, etc) then yes let them go into the hospital. its not like the guy is going to run.

 

[Circlenaut]

Wow seems like a lot of people in this forum lack humanity. The law is not absolute! I consider this one of the situations in life where it is perfectly OK to break it. That cop should be terminated and never allowed into law enforcement for life. Police departments need to be more accountable. A slap on the wrist "pending investigation" is not enough.

 

[Circlenaut]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Cop's attitude and flexibility after information was revealed was shitty. But getting out of the car and acting frantically after being pulled over is about the dumbest thing one can do.

Under Distress we mere humans do incredible things! Give the guy a break

 

[Pheran]

Originally posted by: Number1
I hate to bring it to you but it was his mother in law that was dying. You may want to read the original post again.

That's not particularly relevant, given that his wife was in the car with him, so it was her mother that was dying.

Tamishia, 27, was the first out. Powell drew his gun and yelled at her to get back in.

?Get in there!? he yelled. ?Let me see your hands!?

?My mom is dying,? she explained to him.

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: Pheran

Originally posted by: Number1
I hate to bring it to you but it was his mother in law that was dying. You may want to read the original post again.

That's not particularly relevant, given that his wife was in the car with him, so it was her mother that was dying.

Tamishia, 27, was the first out. Powell drew his gun and yelled at her to get back in.

?Get in there!? he yelled. ?Let me see your hands!?

?My mom is dying,? she explained to him.

Hate to bring it to me? Bring what? Just because you have a shitty mother in law doesn't mean everyone does. I happen to love mine to death. If something happened to her I'd be just as devastated as if something happened to my own mom. Wow.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Number1

I hate to bring it to you but it was his mother in law that was dying. You may want to read the original post again.

Son in law, daughter, grandfather, and sister of the dying woman were all in the car.

 

[ModerateRepZero]

Originally posted by: Pheran

Originally posted by: Number1
I hate to bring it to you but it was his mother in law that was dying. You may want to read the original post again.

That's not particularly relevant, given that his wife was in the car with him, so it was her mother that was dying.

Tamishia, 27, was the first out. Powell drew his gun and yelled at her to get back in.

?Get in there!? he yelled. ?Let me see your hands!?

?My mom is dying,? she explained to him.

😕 Moat's MIL = wife's mother. how is it NOT relevant, esp when it's a relative?

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: ModerateRepZero

Originally posted by: Pheran

Originally posted by: Number1
I hate to bring it to you but it was his mother in law that was dying. You may want to read the original post again.

That's not particularly relevant, given that his wife was in the car with him, so it was her mother that was dying.

Tamishia, 27, was the first out. Powell drew his gun and yelled at her to get back in.

?Get in there!? he yelled. ?Let me see your hands!?

?My mom is dying,? she explained to him.

😕 Moat's MIL = wife's mother. how is it NOT relevant, esp when it's a relative?

I think Number1 is saying it wasn't his mother, so it wasn't as important. Pheran is saying that fact isn't relevant because his wife was in the car with him. So, someone's biological mother was dying.

 

[her209]

You have to wonder if the cop would have acted differently if the family were white. Just sayin'.

 

[marrr]

That cop needs to be fired.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: leftyman
Just another A-hole with a badge a gun and a god complex.

Just like all the self righteous aholes with keyboards on the internet.

Everyone jumps on the cop, but fail to realize that the situation would have never happened had the SUV driver not run a red light, then jump out of their car to confront the officer.

 

[Onita]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: NSFW

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: NSFW

Originally posted by: leftyman

THIS is exactly a problem that is all to prevalent in too many police departments... since when did this become law?

Since people started expecting not to be charged with all their crimes. If you want a break, show the cop some respect and do what he tells you.

I dont think he expected him to not give him a ticket I think he expected the office to do what the officers BOSS said and I quote:

?When people are in distress, we should come to the rescue,? said Simpson. ?We shouldn?t further their distress"

end of story.

He could have been charged with fleeing and alluding, had his car impounded and probably a lot more. The cop did cut him a break.

Hell, he could have charged with everything in the book, as long as he'd let the Husband see his fucking wife before she died. That's not some small thing. It's not like he missed his son's soccer game. The one person he chose to love the rest of his life was fucking dying while this miserable piece of shit power trip cop gave lectures.

Here's how it should have gone.

Moats jumps out of car with family: "My mother is dying, my mother is dying"
Officer: *Looks around, hmm, we are at a hospital". Give me your ID and we will get you to your mother ASAP.
Officer: *Calling for backup, we've got a 1092*
Officer: Ok, let's go. I'll escort you into the hospital.
Officer: *checks surrounds, appear to be a random assortment of a family, clearly distressed, in a hospital parking lot... there is a good chance this story is legit.

Then he should take them up, watch them. Run the ID. Get backup there. Let them say goodbye to the dying woman. Afterwards write them a simple ticket, apologize for their loss and say good day.


THAT'S FUCKING IT. This lecturing bullshit pisses me off beyond all comprehension. Just imagine this is your mom or wife. You'll never get to say goodbye to her. NEVER.

God damn fucking idiots. I'm so pissed right now.

Protip - Don't jump out of the car in the first place when you're pulled over.

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: leftyman
Just another A-hole with a badge a gun and a god complex.

Just like all the self righteous aholes with keyboards on the internet.

Everyone jumps on the cop, but fail to realize that the situation would have never happened had the NFL player's mother-in-law never died.

Fixed to demonstrate why you shouldn't blame the victim.

 

[Finalnight]

I didnt see this posted:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/29895162/

PLANO, Texas - A police officer was placed on administrative leave Thursday over a traffic stop involving an NFL player whom he kept in a hospital parking lot and threatened to arrest while his mother-in-law died inside the building.

Officer Robert Powell also drew his gun during the March 18 incident involving Houston Texans running back Ryan Moats in the Dallas suburb of Plano, police said.

?I can screw you over,? he said at one point in the videotaped incident. When another officer came with word that Moats? mother-in-law was indeed dying, Powell?s response was: ?All right. I?m almost done.?

Dallas Police Chief David Kunkle apologized to the family and announced that Powell would be on paid leave pending an internal investigation.

?When we at the command staff reviewed the tape, we were embarrassed, disappointed,? Kunkle said. ?It?s hard to find the right word and still be professional in my role as the police chief. But the behavior was not appropriate.?

Powell, 25, a three-year member of the force, stopped Moats? SUV outside Baylor Regional Medical Center at Plano after Moats rolled through a red light.

Police officials said Powell told his commanders he believed he was doing his job, and that he drew his gun but did not point it. Kunkle said Powell was not necessarily acting improperly when he pulled his weapon out, but that once he realized what was happening should have put the gun back, apologized and offered to help the family in any way.

?His behavior, in my opinion, did not exhibit the common sense, the discretion, the compassion that we expect our officers to exhibit,? Kunkle said.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: savoyboy
The guy was speeding, ran a light, didnt yield and to top it off he pulls into a handicapped spot and everyone bails out of the vehicle. This is not exactly something you would do if a cop pulls you over.

Do i have the right to risk the lives of other people because I want to see my mother-in-law for the last time?

Cop's attitude was shitty, but he didn't violate anybody's rights.

Why are you defendimg this moron?

here from his boss


Dallas Police Chief David Kunkle apologized to the family and announced that Powell would be on paid leave pending an internal investigation.

?When we at the command staff reviewed the tape, we were embarrassed, disappointed,? Kunkle said. ?It?s hard to find the right word and still be professional in my role as the police chief. But the behavior was not appropriate.?

From what I have read from you on AT trough the years, I would not be surprised if you are officer Powell. Common sense and you are from two different planets.

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: savoyboy
The guy was speeding, ran a light, didnt yield and to top it off he pulls into a handicapped spot and everyone bails out of the vehicle. This is not exactly something you would do if a cop pulls you over.

Do i have the right to risk the lives of other people because I want to see my mother-in-law for the last time?

Cop's attitude was shitty, but he didn't violate anybody's rights.

Should justice be dependent on the attitude of the cop you get, or on a greater ideal? I think we need to change our police culture to one that discourages these useless demonstrations of power. They charge a huge toll to the public respect of police, which increases crime.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: savoyboy
and btw, why are you defending a guy who ran a red light. would it be OK if he t-bone your grandma at an intersection?

He looked both ways and proceeded. Nothing happened.


How about the cops who routinely go through red lights when they need to go get a coffee.

 

[KevinCU]

Cop was completely in the right.

 

[sjwaste]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: leftyman
Just another A-hole with a badge a gun and a god complex.

Just like all the self righteous aholes with keyboards on the internet.

Everyone jumps on the cop, but fail to realize that the situation would have never happened had the SUV driver not run a red light, then jump out of their car to confront the officer.

Clearly every second counted in this situation. The driver did what he had to do. The cop chose not to listen, and now he's on desk duty.

Unfortunately, it's not even debatable that every moment counted -- the mother in law died while the cop was lecturing on the virtues of who knows what.

Fuck this officer, he gives the good ones a bad name. I hope he never works in law enforcement again.

 

[sjwaste]

Originally posted by: savoyboy
The guy was speeding, ran a light, didnt yield and to top it off he pulls into a handicapped spot and everyone bails out of the vehicle. This is not exactly something you would do if a cop pulls you over.

Do i have the right to risk the lives of other people because I want to see my mother-in-law for the last time?

Cop's attitude was shitty, but he didn't violate anybody's rights.

Intentional infliction of emotional distress. Coming to a courtroom near Dallas.

I've read the reports, haven't watched the video yet. But I will when I have a chance, and will gladly play "spot the cause of action" and report back.

A jury will disagree that the cop didn't violate anything.