Discussion NFL Divisional Round thread + poll

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  • Bengals

    Votes: 7 31.8%
  • Titans

    Votes: 12 54.5%
  • 49ers

    Votes: 8 36.4%
  • Packers

    Votes: 11 50.0%
  • Rams

    Votes: 9 40.9%
  • Bucs

    Votes: 9 40.9%
  • Bills

    Votes: 12 54.5%
  • Chiefs

    Votes: 8 36.4%

  • Total voters
    22
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digiram

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Apr 17, 2004
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What happened to our no. 1 D. Great game anyhow. Really thought we were going to afc champ game. At least we have one of the best football players in the league for years to come.
 
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manly

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I dunno, perhaps they thought if Mahomes saw the back end close in he might fire one over their heads and bye-bye goes the cheetah, again. more egregious to me was not forcing KC into taking the kickoff from the 5 or from a squib kick, they get it at the 25 with not one second burned off. I hope the Bengals kick the snot out of KC next week, no one is giving them a chance and that's a mistake IMO.


I think too much is being made of not squib kicking. Assuming the Chiefs special teams unit is well coached, they would've been directed to immediately down the ball. Maybe a second runs off, maybe the field position is 10 yards better for KC.

Kicking it away to the 5 has some small risks too; you're forcing your coverage to play well and not give up an unlikely TD return.

What ifs aside, giving up 44 yards in two plays in 11 seconds was terrible. With 8 seconds left, the reason the Chiefs are trying to quickly hit for 15 yards is because the odds are better than that of a Hail Mary (or trick lateral play). And even if they don't get enough yards on that play, they still have a couple ticks for a Hail Mary. They have two pathways to victory (one via overtime) instead of a single 10% gamble.

I'm no defensive wizard, but I'm not paid millions to be one. In hindsight, it's easy to see the defense was all wrong. They rushed 4 linemen when you'd usually rush just two or three. Flood the field with extra DBs, and have a couple safeties downfield to help on intermediate or deep routes. Instead, they put 3 DBs so far downfield that the Bills basically had only 8 defenders on the play, and 4 were futilely rushing the QB.
 

Hans Gruber

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You don't run a Prevent defense with 13 seconds where a field goal ties the game. You squib the kickoff to burn at least 5 seconds off the clock. A Prevent defense is designed to prevent the long ball and a long TD. They should have only rushed 3 and had a nickel package with an extra safety. The Bills defense was beyond awful on those last two drives. The Chiefs defense was good, Josh Allen picked them apart at the end. Mahomes didn't have to do much with a cheetah on his team and the Bills defense.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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You don't run a Prevent defense with 13 seconds where a field goal ties the game. You squib the kickoff to burn at least 5 seconds off the clock. A Prevent defense is designed to prevent the long ball and a long TD. They should have only rushed 3 and had a nickel package with an extra safety. The Bills defense was beyond awful on those last two drives. The Chiefs defense was good, Josh Allen picked them apart at the end. Mahomes didn't have to do much with a cheetah on his team and the Bills defense.

I guess Buffalo suddenly thought they were facing Dak Prescott. Too bad they weren't.
 
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Muse

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Jul 11, 2001
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I think you're missing part of the picture.
Before he went to TB, he wanted to go to the 49ers. They choose to stay with Jimmy G over him. He said something about "that dude over me?"
Projecting animosity by the GOAT seems very very silly and uncalled for. He has every reason to be grateful, not sore about being spurned. I don't buy it.
 

Muse

Lifer
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I guess Buffalo suddenly thought they were facing Dak Prescott. Too bad they weren't.
Buffalo D was tuckered out at the end and had no juice or clue how to stop Mahomes + Hill + Kelce.

The League really should change that stupid rule. After 4 quarters, defences are really tired and can't be expected to prevent a touchdown on the first drive of overtime. They should let the other team try to score a touchdown of their own and if they do, continue the overtime. Yeah, in the regular season they can have ties, but not in the playoffs. But in the playoffs they should be fair. That coinflip should not be so consequential. I figure they do it because they want it to be over, but it's way too unfair the way they have it.
 
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purbeast0

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Why does everyone think squib kicking automatically takes 5 seconds off the clock?

All the receiving team has to do is fall on the ball or take a knee as soon as they catch it. Then 0 or 1 second comes off the clock. And they have a shorter field.

Not 5.
 
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dlerious

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Buffalo D was tuckered out at the end and had no juice or clue how to stop Mahomes + Hill + Kelcey.

The League really should change that stupid rule. After 4 quarters, defences are really tired and can't be expected to prevent a touchdown on the first drive of overtime. They should let the other team try to score a touchdown of their own and if they do, continue the overtime. Yeah, in the regular season they can have ties, but not in the playoffs. But in the playoffs they should be fair. That coinflip should not be so consequential. I figure they do it because they want it to be over, but it's way too unfair they way they have it.
The same thing happened to the Chiefs against the Patriots in the playoffs. Maybe they'll change it now.
 
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Captante

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The Bills will be no longer a serious threat after two years when Mac Jones fully blooms into fruition and the Patriots restore themselves to the throne of the AFC East.


Mac Jones is a decent QB but saying he's even potentially better then Allen is a complete joke.

The guy has potential to win but he's no Brady/Montana (or Allen/Mahomes) AND he never will be.
 

MrSquished

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Apparently in 2018 the chiefs wanted to change ot rules so that no matter what both teams got to touch the ball

The bills were one of the many teams against such a rule change.
 
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Torn Mind

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Mac Jones is a decent QB but saying he's even potentially better then Allen is a complete joke.

The guy has potential to win but he's no Brady/Montana (or Allen/Mahomes) AND he never will be.
Mac Jones is a death by precision quarterback much like Burrow.
Allen is the fun dual threat type that always looks better on screen and his rushing basically forces to defenses to allocate a spy or be forced into zone.

Allen choked the game away with the drive that got punted to him. The first pass was a apparent lob to Knox that went nowhere near to Knox. Knox false started, and then Allen didn't throw the ball short to Knox to get some yards. He the Bills gotten their offensive mojo right there, the complexion of the game would have changed entirely.
 

Captante

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Mac Jones is a death by precision quarterback much like Burrow.
Allen is the fun dual threat type that always looks better on screen and his rushing basically forces to defenses to allocate a spy or be forced into zone.

Allen choked the game away with the drive that got punted to him. The first pass was a apparent lob to Knox that went nowhere near to Knox. Knox false started, and then Allen didn't throw the ball short to Knox to get some yards. He the Bills gotten their offensive mojo right there, the complexion of the game would have changed entirely.



Pfffft. :laughing:

This sort of nonsense is why I no longer pay much serious attention to your posts. (and often don't even read them fully)
 
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Torn Mind

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Pfffft. :laughing:

This sort of nonsense is why I no longer pay much serious attention to your posts. (and often don't even read them fully)
QBs are also paid to make the simple plays. Tossing a swing pass way out of bounds was an unforced error and Allen did tap his chest indicating "my bad".
The incomplete on third down meant the clock got stopped. KC only need a little extra time, as we all know.
 

Captante

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QBs are also paid to make the simple plays. Tossing a swing pass way out of bounds was an unforced error and Allen did tap his chest indicating "my bad".
The incomplete on third down meant the clock got stopped. KC only need a little extra time, as we all know.

SSDP. *(same $hit different post)
 
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Torn Mind

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He's just trying to raise my spirits after that frustrating loss. We've already established that he keeps posters of Allen all over his bedroom.
I'm extraordinarily satisfied Allen did have at least one McNabb-like bad pass that helped cost them the game. 5th best QB in the AFC now and forever.