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NFL 2024 Season

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Who will win Super Bowl 59?

  • Chiefs + 500

    Votes: 1 7.1%

  • 49ers +600

    Votes: 7 50.0%

  • Ravens +1000

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Lions +1200

    Votes: 3 21.4%

  • Eagles +1200

    Votes: 2 14.3%

  • Bengals +1300

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Bills +1600

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Packers +1600

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Texans +1600

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 7.1%
  • Total voters
    14
  • Poll closed .
Montgomery out for season as well.....sigh...and yes every team has injuries, Lions had been pretty much injury free on the offensive side of the ball but the defence sheesh....so many guys starting that where picked from practice squads around the league in the last 2 weeks...ah well shit happens
 
KMFJD said:
Montgomery out for season as well.....sigh...and yes every team has injuries, Lions had been pretty much injury free on the offensive side of the ball but the defence sheesh....so many guys starting that where picked from practice squads around the league in the last 2 weeks...ah well shit happens
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Dang. I'm really hoping for a rematch in the Super Bowl because Dan Campbell has made that team fun as hell. And I love how aggressive he is, somehow even more than I would be.
 
MrSquished said:
What a stupid decision to take an onside kick with 12 minutes left. Even if the guy didn't return it that far it was stupid, I said a quick 'wtf' to the tv when they announced they were doing an onside kick. Oy.
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LOL at peeps defending the onside kick decision.
Yes, Josh Allen is beasting and has the pole position for the MVP award. Even so, the Bills attempted 3 FGs (missing one) and punted once. Giving Allen the ball isn't an automatic TD drive.

OTOH the chances of converting an onside kick is minuscule after the rule changes. This season it's under 8%. This is much worse than the calculated 4th down gambles that Dan Campbell routinely calls for.
Surprisingly enough, the Lions actually executed the final onside kick well. The kicker Bates blew up the first receiver and the Lions actually had a chance in the scrum.

Almost forgotten because of Allen's brilliance is that Jared Goff threw for 494 yards and 5 TDs. To win that game, the Lions needed to stop the Bills (at least) once. Praying for an onside miracle wasn't the way, no matter how shattered your defense was.
 
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I didn't watch the Giants play yesterday because it was the weekend and I had a life versus watching that shit show. But I'm home tonight on a school night, and have some football on checking on it here and there, and it sure looks like the raiders are throwing the game.

I can't say if the Giants were or were not throwing the game yesterday because I didn't watch but they also played the Ravens.

But the raiders look like they are throwing it.
 
KLin said:
www.espn.com

Source: 49ers RB Isaac Guerendo likely out against Dolphins

49ers running back Isaac Guerendo is unlikely to play Sunday against the Dolphins because of a hamstring injury.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

49ers 4th string RB out. LoL

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Good lord...I'm really hoping Purdy doesn't hold out for a mega deal. I don't see him as that kind of guy, I think he's kind of a "get my bag but do what's good for the team too" kind of dude, but we'll see. In the meantime, I'm not even sure we can play spoiler for the division? We just have AZ left, and they're in 3rd, so maybe we can knock them out of playoff hopes if there's not a clear lock by the end of the regular season. And somehow beating Detroit would be nice but that's a huge task.
 
thestrangebrew1 said:
Good lord...I'm really hoping Purdy doesn't hold out for a mega deal. I don't see him as that kind of guy, I think he's kind of a "get my bag but do what's good for the team too" kind of dude, but we'll see. In the meantime, I'm not even sure we can play spoiler for the division? We just have AZ left, and they're in 3rd, so maybe we can knock them out of playoff hopes if there's not a clear lock by the end of the regular season. And somehow beating Detroit would be nice but that's a huge task.
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You don't want to play spoiler though; you want the best draft pick you can get.

As for Purdy, you should be happy if he gets $270M over 5 years (and hopefully the guaranteed money isn't ridonkulous). If he wants to approach Dak Prescott's $60M AAV, that's pretty gross.

(Besides the annual cap hit) The guaranteed money is the most important number, but it's widely expected the AAV will start at $55M (see Trevor Lawrence and Jordan Love).

In short, Purdy is already guaranteed a "mega deal." The only question is how much pain he wants to extract. I'm just not expecting him to take a below market value deal to ensure the front office doesn't have to strip down the roster.
 
I just need the Lions to keep it together and beat the Iggles, like wtf is up with the injuries. Latest news is that RB Montgomery is not done for the season, doesn't need season ending surgery.
 
Woah, the Chargers converted a fair catch FG at the end of the first half. First time it's been successful since 1976. Only attempted 9 times since then.
 
thestrangebrew1 said:
Good lord...I'm really hoping Purdy doesn't hold out for a mega deal. I don't see him as that kind of guy, I think he's kind of a "get my bag but do what's good for the team too" kind of dude, but we'll see. In the meantime, I'm not even sure we can play spoiler for the division? We just have AZ left, and they're in 3rd, so maybe we can knock them out of playoff hopes if there's not a clear lock by the end of the regular season. And somehow beating Detroit would be nice but that's a huge task.
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Kirk Cousins seemed like this kinda guy too, until he wasn't.
 
MrSquished said:
What a beautiful TD throw by Herbert at the beginning of the fourth. And then the two point conversion catch.

Let's go chargers
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purbeast0 said:
Kirk Cousins seemed like this kinda guy too, until he wasn't.
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How so? Cousins was the first franchise QB in the salary cap era to get a fully-guaranteed contract. Then he did it again with the Vikings before they moved on this past offseason. Suddenly that decision looks MFing brilliant.

Without getting into a big debate about his career, he's been paid a ton of money for one playoff win.

But the QB contract numbers are starting to get silly. I don't mean the big numbers themselves, because that's fairly expected. The issue is when the guys resetting the market are not elite, or still very much unproven.

Just for example, I like Jordan Love but he got $55M AAV just because the Packers curb stomped the Cowboys in the wild card round. Likewise, Trevor Lawrence and Tua also got paid this past offseason and you can question those two as well. There are only a handful of truly elite QBs in the NFL, but nowadays every up-and-comer gets paid like one too.

Besides Tom Brady in his prime, I can't name a single QB that left so much money on the table for his team to fill out the roster.


NutBucket said:
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Nice seats! Haven't been to SoFi yet, I'm jelly.
Looks to me like sections 400s or 500s (nosebleed) suck?

@thestrangebrew1 It's sad but Chargers home games are always like road games LOL.
 
Yes there were, including one of my friends. Made the experience more fun 🙂

There were also a lot of empty seats. Sad for a game with playoff implications. Not sure how much of that can be blamed on the game moving.
 
purbeast0 said:
Because he would not take a team friendly dear multiple years in a row for the Redskins and instead took the franchise tag.
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Obviously I can't debate you on WFT, but sounds like Kirk Cousins was never a team-friendly guy to begin with? That's kinda my interpretation of history; he went to MN to get his fully-guaranteed bag. Now the Falcons will pay him about $100M for less than a season's worth of work LOL.

More to the point, there are a few whispers that Brock Purdy is just a "system QB" and can't be worth the staggering numbers that non-elite QBs are now getting. Years ago, ESPN's Bill Barnwell wrote a piece about the Rams deciding whether to extend Jared Goff, or passing and looking for its next QB in the draft.* Ultimately, they extended Goff but that didn't really work out for them (hence Matt Stafford).

It's an interesting idea, but most GMs don't have enough job security to even think about it. Could John Lynch actually let Purdy walk and try to find the next Brock Purdy in the draft? Few people think so, but OTOH do you want to give Purdy the biggest contract in NFL history?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

* IIRC he explained that the most valuable asset in the NFL is a stud QB on a rookie contract. If you have this, and a good front office and coaching, then the chip window is wide open.
 
manly said:
Obviously I can't debate you on WFT, but sounds like Kirk Cousins was never a team-friendly guy to begin with? That's kinda my interpretation of history; he went to MN to get his fully-guaranteed bag. Now the Falcons will pay him about $100M for less than a season's worth of work LOL.

More to the point, there are a few whispers that Brock Purdy is just a "system QB" and can't be worth the staggering numbers that non-elite QBs are now getting. Years ago, ESPN's Bill Barnwell wrote a piece about the Rams deciding whether to extend Jared Goff, or passing and looking for its next QB in the draft.* Ultimately, they extended Goff but that didn't really work out for them (hence Matt Stafford).

It's an interesting idea, but most GMs don't have enough job security to even think about it. Could John Lynch actually let Purdy walk and try to find the next Brock Purdy in the draft? Few people think so, but OTOH do you want to give Purdy the biggest contract in NFL history?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

* IIRC he explained that the most valuable asset in the NFL is a stud QB on a rookie contract. If you have this, and a good front office and coaching, then the chip window is wide open.
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Cousins was the nice Christian family guy who happened to play quarterback. He was the nicest person on the team and just had that "team comes first" mentality and talked about it. He worked hard and you could tell he loves the game of football and played it for the passion. He also knew that the team needed more help than just a QB and came off as though when it came to negotiations, that he would take a deal that would allow the team to pay him and also be able to afford the other pieces needed.

But then it came time to talk contract and he just was looking out for himself and held out to get the franchise tag, twice, setting an NFL record in doing so, and that furthered to hinder the team as far as salary cap goes.

And I don't blame him one bit for doing so. I would have done the same thing too. Dude bet on himself big time and it paid off huge and now dude has generational wealth for his family.

The time you are talking about with him is after all the drama happened in Washington. He has played it PERFECTLY for himself to build this generational wealth and I applaud him for that.
 
purbeast0 said:
I saw that little video. That was pretty dang cool lol. I am guessing that was at least partially sponsored by Toyota.
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He bought five Toyota Sequoias, which start at $63k each. Assuming he got the base models that would be $315k of cars. His base salary is under $1 million so that would be a huge cost to him. I know he gets endorsements and everything but I couldn't see spending $300k+ on people.
 
pete6032 said:
He bought five Toyota Sequoias, which start at $63k each. Assuming he got the base models that would be $315k of cars. His base salary is under $1 million so that would be a huge cost to him. I know he gets endorsements and everything but I couldn't see spending $300k+ on people.
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Even if those 5 people are protecting you from physical harm so you can perform some entertainment and get a huge paycheck in the near future?
 
pete6032 said:
He bought five Toyota Sequoias, which start at $63k each. Assuming he got the base models that would be $315k of cars. His base salary is under $1 million so that would be a huge cost to him. I know he gets endorsements and everything but I couldn't see spending $300k+ on people.
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He gave away 5 Sequoias and 5 Tundras, 10 cars not just 5.

But the whole video seemed like a Toyota commercial in general lol.
 
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