nf4 boards support ATI cards on SLI? guessing no

[w00t]

i am a hardcore ati fan i want a ati card pci express and want dual later on but i heard nf4 boards only sli on nvidia cards

 

[EvanB]

Yeah, only nvidia. But just wait, you'll get the same from ATI in time.... You're going to have to be patient though, I think its slated to come out late next year.

 

[Lonyo]

ATi don't support SLI on their cards yet, so nothing supports ATi SLI.
Their future cards will have some form of support for dual cards, but it's as yet unannounced, so there's no telling what it may require.
It may or may not work on nForce 4 SLI motherboards, we'll have to wait and see what they come out with.
For now though, they don't even have a comparable solution.

 

[Adn4n]

The ATI chipset for Athlon 64 socket 939 is coming in 1st quarter of 2005. Hang in there.

 

[Schadenfroh]

what do you have against nvidia?

 

[sph1nx]

Anyone else think that ATI really let themselves fall behind? I was a huge fan, but while they are working on ps3.0 and SLI, nvidia has time to refine existing technology and work on new stuff as well. I don't think it will kill ATI, I just think they were too confident that they would be able to downplay all of nvidia's new technology (only to later admit that they will implement it later: AGP/PCIe bridge; SLI; shader 3.0). Anywho, I guess we will have to wait for the next round to see what happens.

 

[Mrvile]

Heh no. Diehard ATI fans (such as yours truely) will still buy ATI cards when SLI isn't affordable (or is unacceptable, after all, it is nVidia). I personally don't have anything against nVidia, I just like ATI better. Also, people anticipating ATI SLI (which is due 3rd - 4th qtr 2005) will keep ATI alive.

 

[dklingen]

I think ATI totally got caught off guard and is doing their best possble damage control. I like both companies and own/have owned many cards from either company. Nvidia stands to make a REAL killing in 2005 with Nforce4 and SLI. Once the performace benchmarks have the 6600GT and 6800GT dominating everything in an SLI configuration the buyers will follow. The initial Anandtech preview of SLI shows it as a ~70% FPS boost in Far, Doom3, and HL2 Sources. That is just something you cannot ignor.

I am even willing to speculate that ATI cannot "invent" an SLI equivalent in 2005.

 

[Rhin0]

Originally posted by: dklingen
I think ATI totally got caught off guard and is doing their best possble damage control. I like both companies and own/have owned many cards from either company. Nvidia stands to make a REAL killing in 2005 with Nforce4 and SLI. Once the performace benchmarks have the 6600GT and 6800GT dominating everything in an SLI configuration the buyers will follow. The initial Anandtech preview of SLI shows it as a ~70% FPS boost in Far, Doom3, and HL2 Sources. That is just something you cannot ignor.

I am even willing to speculate that ATI cannot "invent" an SLI equivalent in 2005.

It is going to be sad watching the denial. That amount of performance increase is insane but it is expensive. But you can play doom 3 TOTALLY maxed. I will have to admit it is stupid that Doom3 bogs an FX-55 with a 6800 ultra. That is poor coding or something.

 

[theblackbox]

Originally posted by: dklingen
I think ATI totally got caught off guard and is doing their best possble damage control. I like both companies and own/have owned many cards from either company. Nvidia stands to make a REAL killing in 2005 with Nforce4 and SLI. Once the performace benchmarks have the 6600GT and 6800GT dominating everything in an SLI configuration the buyers will follow. The initial Anandtech preview of SLI shows it as a ~70% FPS boost in Far, Doom3, and HL2 Sources. That is just something you cannot ignor.

I am even willing to speculate that ATI cannot "invent" an SLI equivalent in 2005.



I don't see the mainastream shelling out 800-900 bucks for two 6800's.
I also don't see an advantage to buying two 6600's over one 6800gt
I would imagine sli will be the playground of the few, while mainstream perfomance cards kick it up a notch.
If it's all about wow! then i guess you can have a dual sli rig, but with the way things are changing, i'm not too worried about single card solutions.
and i would never count ATI out.

 

[dklingen]

I do not think Doom3 did as well as anticipated. I just played the demo, uninstalled it, read the reviews, and decided the game was not that great. Maybe the graphics are, but I think Far Cry looks amazing and better. So, yes I agree with your point that there is something wrong in the DOOM3 code (particulare since you are in the dark).

For anyone that hasn't seen the Anandtech SLI preview, here is the link: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2258

 

[dklingen]

theblackbox,

I agree with your reasoning. But I don't think the majority of the people on this site are novices and It still makes sense to buy a PCIe video card and have the optionto go the SLI route. What if in a year you can get a 6800GT for $200 and almost double your fps? That would be better then buying a new cpu/mb/ram/...

The key to the point you make is "what will the next GPU performance step be?". Increasing the piplines seems like the most logical move. But, what if the GPU boys have reached a technological barrier (DDR speed, layout, disipating heat) like the CPU guys (at least intel)? I will be very surprised if the next round of GPUs show the same "performance jump" as the current generation did. But who knows, and if the pricing trend continues the top of the line boards will be extremely expensive ($700-800).

But your points are excellent!

 

[nitromullet]

I will have to admit it is stupid that Doom3 bogs an FX-55 with a 6800 ultra. That is poor coding or something.

So, yes I agree with your point that there is something wrong in the DOOM3 code (particulare since you are in the dark).

What are you talking about?

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...oc.aspx?i=2149&p=7

If you look at the bottom chart, you can see that an FX-53 with a 6800Ultra will run Doom3 at 82.7 FPS 1280x1024 @ high quality. If you look all the way at the bottom, you will see that even the lowly Athlon XP 2000+ when paired with a 6800Ultra will still produce a playable 46.1 FPS. I would say that's pretty impressive performance to be able to get out of a ~$60 cpu, and 82.7 FPS is hardly what I would call "bogged down" for a game that looks as good as Doom3.

edit: sorry that did get a bit off topic.