Next election, will you trust major media and polls?

[shady28]

I appreciate you using proper media sources such as WaPo and HuffPo. So Harry Reid lies sometimes. About 2 years of Romney's taxes, while Romney refused to release more info. I was never much of a Harry Reid fan, he was always kind of a pussy. I'd take Harry Reid over Mitch McConnell any day of the week though and twice on sundays and I wouldn't like it very much, but I'd take it cause the Plan B is far worse. When you are talking about politicians, it's about taking one liar over the other. You gotta pick your poison.

Compared to Trump, Harry Reid is a pristine angel. Baggage and all.

LoL!

Here's Arianna Huffington referred to as saying she is better for Hillary's campaign inside HuffPo where she can covertly spread Hillary's message.

For clarity - HuffPo is a piece of shit propaganda machine for the left. This is proof.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/795696999597281281

 

[agent00f]

I appreciate you using proper media sources such as WaPo and HuffPo. So Harry Reid lies sometimes. About 2 years of Romney's taxes, while Romney refused to release more info. I was never much of a Harry Reid fan, he was always kind of a pussy. I'd take Harry Reid over Mitch McConnell any day of the week though and twice on sundays and I wouldn't like it very much, but I'd take it cause the Plan B is far worse. When you are talking about politicians, it's about taking one liar over the other. You gotta pick your poison.

Compared to Trump, Harry Reid is a pristine angel. Baggage and all.

Reid lying about something absolves all their sins.

 

[agent00f]

LoL!

Here's Arianna Huffington referred to as saying she is better for Hillary's campaign inside HuffPo where she can covertly spread Hillary's message.

For clarity - HuffPo is a piece of shit propaganda machine for the left. This is proof.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/795696999597281281

Holy shit, Huffinton post is in the bag for clinton. stop the presses. Somebody give this man a peabody.

 

[MrSquished]

LoL!

Here's Arianna Huffington referred to as saying she is better for Hillary's campaign inside HuffPo where she can covertly spread Hillary's message.

For clarity - HuffPo is a piece of shit propaganda machine for the left. This is proof.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/795696999597281281

That's all you got? We all knew HuffPo leans left. I'd think that if it were some grand conspiracy there would be a shitload of emails. I'm underwhelmed.

God imagine what some RNC emails could have uncovered with them and white nationalist groups. But anyway

 

[bshole]

Major media along with so called unbiased polling services showed shillary trouncing donald.

CNN said hillary had an 80% chance of winning.

huffpost predicted shillary would win 303 electoral votes.

Poll, after poll, after poll,,,, showed hillary winning. The electrical college was not even close.

Next election will yall who spout off "the polls show this and that", will you put your full faith in polls?

Have your eyes been opened that the media was against donald trump? Are you accepting the fact that the people were lied to?

The pollsters make their LIVING from their efforts. If they fail enough, they will be unable to sell their product thus people lose their jobs when they screw up. I am sure it was a blood bath in some of these polling operations. This was a question of competence, not bias. The pollsters are scrambling right now to figure out what went wrong (see link).

That being said, the polls had the race tightening and Trump UNDERPERFORMED in some of the states. The important thing to note was that Trump OVERPERFORMED in absolutely key states to an extent that gave him the electoral college.


http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-missed-trump-we-asked-pollsters-why/

 

[agent00f]

The pollsters make their LIVING from their efforts. If they fail enough, they will be unable to sell their product thus people lose their jobs when they screw up. I am sure it was a blood bath in some of these polling operations. This was a question of competence, not bias. The pollsters are scrambling right now to figure out what went wrong (see link).

That being said, the polls had the race tightening and Trump UNDERPERFORMED in some of the states. The important thing to note was that Trump OVERPERFORMED in absolutely key states to an extent that gave him the electoral college.


http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-missed-trump-we-asked-pollsters-why/

The problem seems to be a lot of Trump voters lied about their intentions; this should come as a surprise to no one.

 

[fskimospy]

That's a cut and paste from Wikipedia dipshit.

Wikipedia has references. It's not my job to educate lazy morons on how to follow annotations, but here is the HuffPo article with the lie (ref #62 off the Wikipedia article) :

Harry Reid: Bain Investor Told Me That Mitt Romney ‘Didn’t Pay Any Taxes For 10 Years’

Here's the WaPo article about Reid's pride about his lie :

Harry Reid lied about Mitt Romney’s taxes. He’s still not sorry.

Donald Trump lied about Obama's birthplace and he's still not sorry but you don't seem outraged at that?

I don't know why you're so excited about the Huffington Post as it's an unabashedly liberal outlet. What does it have to do with major media? I mean you don't see people running in here with the incredible scoop that Breitbart is a conservative media outlet...

 

[PokerGuy]

Donald Trump scolded media big shots during an off-the-record Trump Tower sitdown on Monday, sources told The Post.

“It was like a f–ing firing squad,” one source said of the encounter.

“Trump started with [CNN chief] Jeff Zucker and said ‘I hate your network, everyone at CNN is a liar and you should be ashamed,’ ” the source said.

“The meeting was a total disaster. The TV execs and anchors went in there thinking they would be discussing the access they would get to the Trump administration, but instead they got a Trump-style dressing down,” the source added.

A second source confirmed the fireworks.

http://nypost.com/2016/11/21/donald-trumps-media-summit-was-a-f-ing-firing-squad/

He's got a point. Would have loved to see that.

Awesome, finally the scummly lefty press gets treated they way they should be Trump should shut out all the lefty liars who were in cahoots with the DNC and illary from any access during his administration. Of course they are free to continue to lie as they always have, but they shouldn't get access to the administration.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

LoL!

Here's Arianna Huffington referred to as saying she is better for Hillary's campaign inside HuffPo where she can covertly spread Hillary's message.

For clarity - HuffPo is a piece of shit propaganda machine for the left. This is proof.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/795696999597281281

and in other breaking news, water is wet and Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead

 

[bshole]

The problem seems to be a lot of Trump voters lied about their intentions; this should come as a surprise to no one.

That is an assertion without any evidence. From the website that I linked, the pollsters are perplexed and are in the process of figuring out what went wrong and could have answers in a month or so.

The only reason that I can think of for Trump voters to lie is that they were embarrassed. If there was dishonesty in those polled, it will be damn hard to prove. I don't believe the polls predicted the underperformance of black votes for Hillary in Milwaukee, that was extremely dramatic. Perhaps the pollsters didn't do an adequate job of measuring the likelihood of those polled actually voting.

I suspect a more systemic problem in that the pollsters did not do an adequate job of getting a representative sample of those that voted.

 

[agent00f]

That is an assertion without any evidence. From the website that I linked, the pollsters are perplexed and are in the process of figuring out what went wrong and could have answers in a month or so.

The only reason that I can think of for Trump voters to lie is that they were embarrassed. If there was dishonesty in those polled, it will be damn hard to prove. I don't believe the polls predicted the underperformance of black votes for Hillary in Milwaukee, that was extremely dramatic. Perhaps the pollsters didn't do an adequate job of measuring the likelihood of those polled actually voting.

I suspect a more systemic problem in that the pollsters did not do an adequate job of getting a representative sample of those that voted.

Recall the substantial number of people on this very forum who were pumping the "both sides equally bad" rhetoric, and they sure weren't breaking for Clinton.

In all fairness it's pretty embarrassing to admit identifying with Trump & co.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Recall the substantial number of people on this very forum who were pumping the "both sides equally bad" rhetoric, and they sure weren't breaking for Clinton.

In all fairness it's pretty embarrassing to admit identifying with Trump & co.

Not embarrassing, in some places it will get you physically assaulted, your car or your house vandalized.

 

[agent00f]

Not embarrassing, in some places it will get you physically assaulted, your car or your house vandalized.

Rather makes sense they're also the sort to believe the libtard conspiracy pollsters are going to send the criminal welfare queens their way. Good thing they prepared with any number of firearms for just that contingency.

 

[Sunburn74]

Rather makes sense they're also the sort to believe the libtard conspiracy pollsters are going to send the criminal welfare queens their way. Good thing they prepared with any number of firearms for just that contingency.

You forgot to include the words benghazi, emails, clinton foundation, wikileaks, breitbart, sean hannity, and rosie o'donnell in your statement.

 

[Texashiker]

Soooooooo you think all the right leaning news sources don't do the same exact thing? Seriously, Trump went into the fetal position with Hannity and Fox and friends. Tell me that the Trump camp didn't get first pass on things published about Trump.

This same exact thing happens with many areas. Sports, entertainment, business, politics, ect. All of them get groomed over by marketing, lawyers and agents before things are published with the bigger players. They just call them press releases.

How many right leaning publications leaked debate questions?

How many right leaning publications sent articles to trump for his approval before being published?

 

[fskimospy]

How many right leaning publications leaked debate questions?

How would we know? No hacked emails from Trump's campaign have been published.

How many right leaning publications sent articles to trump for his approval before being published?

Probably every single one of them. Liberal leaning publications almost certainly did this as well. It's called seeking comment on your story and is done by basically every journalistic enterprise there is.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

How would we know? No hacked emails from Trump's campaign have been published.



Probably every single one of them. Liberal leaning publications almost certainly did this as well. It's called seeking comment on your story and is done by basically every journalistic enterprise there is.

Prove it.

 

[Sunburn74]

How many right leaning publications leaked debate questions?

How many right leaning publications sent articles to trump for his approval before being published?

Actually there were reports that fox news leaked debate questions to trump in the primaries. Kelly has since denied it nonetheless the passage in her book seems to imply trump knew ahead of time and called fox news angrily the day before about the question of sexism she was planning to ask him during that infamous primary. she also made references in her book to the very pro trump environment of fox news (Trump's very good friend is Roger files) and possible collusion

 

[Bowfinger]

Prove it.

That's a silly demand. How could one possibly prove that for every story? It is a standard practice of legitimate journalists, however. You can "prove" this for yourself by reading legitimate news stories and giving them honest, critical thought. If you do, you will notice that the majority of stories (from legitimate journalists) about a person or organization "xyz" will contain one of two things. Either they will include comments from one or more xyz spokesmen, or they'll contain a comment like, "We reached out to xyz for comment, but have yet to receive a response."

Journalists do this because they sincerely want to get their facts straight. That's their bread and butter. Sometimes they will edit the story to reflect corrections or clarifications from xyz. Sometimes they will still report the information they received from their original sources, but will also note that xyz disputes certain aspects of the story. Either way, they consistently try to verify their stories with the subjects of those stories. That's one of the many things that separates legitimate journalists from advocacy media, propagandists, and blogs.

 

[blankslate]

I won't trust the DNC establishment or their insipid snivelling cowardly defenders frequenting this subject who always show up to defend the choice of Hillary as their candidate....

fucking asses can't own up to the fact that their choice was wrong dumb and fucktastically disastrous....

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[OverVolt]

I disagree. Pollsters make their money with accuracy. In the real world, $$$ almost always trumps ideology. The pollsters weren't wrong because of some ideology driven conspiracy to make it look like illary was going to win, they got it wrong for a variety of reasons and they will tweak their modeling accordingly.

Tweak the model... hah...because its so valuable and accurate.

You could even compare the polls between two liberal sites and get vastly different numbers. It was a complete joke. Anyone who believed them even for a second is an idiot.

 

[Texashiker]

Actually there were reports that fox news leaked debate questions to trump in the primaries. Kelly has since denied it nonetheless the passage in her book seems to imply trump knew ahead of time and called fox news angrily the day before about the question of sexism she was planning to ask him during that infamous primary. she also made references in her book to the very pro trump environment of fox news (Trump's very good friend is Roger files) and possible collusion

Proof?

First I have heard of this.

 

[dank69]

I don't need "conservative media sources" to tell me this is true when I turn on the TV or read on the internet every day and can see it with my own eyes. Also, last I checked, all the emails showing the media working with the illary campaign and the DNC didn't come from "conservative media sources". Nice try though.

All the emails, huh? I guess it should be easy for you to produce a few of these emails then.

Still waiting champ.

 

[baydude]

This thread needs a poll