Newts Ex-wife says he wanted an open marriage

[spittledip]

What I find incredibly astounding is how people who say they hold family values will vote for this guy and cheer him on. You KNOW that a lot of people who hounded after Clinton when he had his "moment" are now supporting Newt. And you KNOW that some of the people who would hound after Newt for this backed up Clinton.

I just watched the video where Newt deflected John King's question regarding this issue. I cannot believe people were cheering for him!! How blind are those people? Do they not know that he is playing them all for fools? Those people think that Obama is the enemy and that is all they care about. Gah, the whole thing is unbelievable. Our whole political scene is disgustingly sad joke from top to bottom. Many people think that personal life has nothing to do with political life, but how does one isolate their integrity in one area of their life and not another? Preposterous idea.

All that said, it is not surprising that Perry would back up Newt as they are very similar to one another. The big difference is that Newt is much more intelligent than Perry politically and otherwise.

It is stuff like this that makes me appreciate Ron Paul. Sure, all his ideas aren't quite realistic, but at least you know what you are getting.

 

[Perknose]

"Senior political correspondant" John Oliver of the Daily Show nails it, and nails Newt, imho:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-january-19-2012/indecision-2012---the-freaker-of-the-spouse---newt-gingrich-s-negotiation-skills

 

[shortylickens]

Why are people acting like open marriage is a bad thing? It works for some people.

You must be under 20. I've been watching this guy my whole life and he frequently talks about pushing old fashioned christian values and every chance he gets he proves he's completely full of shit.

 

[pcgeek11]

yeah, crazy right? Maybe she thinks that a scummy dude that abandoned here and her children when she was sick, requested an open order of infidelity is simply not fit to lead her country?

Man, she really should stfu about her opinions, right? I mean, Newt is clearly the victim, right? He did abandon his family, then refuse welfare payments for the type of kids in the same situation in which he left his own children. Such a victim--poor, poor Newt.

as a repub, you know--more than any other party affiliate--that the Pres is elected on character. Stop lying to yourself to defend the creepiest, most duplicitous charlatan to ever run for public office. Is mormonism that offensive to you that you can't get behind the only worthy candidate in your party?

says a lot about you and Newt's supporters.

I didn't defend Newts actions in any way. I only expressed my opinion about her actions. I think she is just attention grabbing and being a bitch. I have no problem with the Mormons. You need to quit inventing imaginary meaning from my post.

 

[Jhhnn]

What I find incredibly astounding is how people who say they hold family values will vote for this guy and cheer him on. You KNOW that a lot of people who hounded after Clinton when he had his "moment" are now supporting Newt. And you KNOW that some of the people who would hound after Newt for this backed up Clinton.

The people who backed Clinton aren't attacking Newt on the basis of his sexual proclivities, but rather on the basis of his hypocrisy.

Watch the Daily Show piece, above, to see where Newt represents himself to be vs where he's been in his personal life to understand that.

It'd be different if Newt had represented himself to be a free thinking Libertine all along, but then he would have gotten nowhere with the Repub base. The only reasons any of them can overlook all of that is that they're desperate for anybody but Romney and that Newt panders to them shamelessly.

 

[spittledip]

The people who backed Clinton aren't attacking Newt on the basis of his sexual proclivities, but rather on the basis of his hypocrisy.

Watch the Daily Show piece, above, to see where Newt represents himself to be vs where he's been in his personal life to understand that.

It'd be different if Newt had represented himself to be a free thinking Libertine all along, but then he would have gotten nowhere with the Repub base. The only reasons any of them can overlook all of that is that they're desperate for anybody but Romney and that Newt panders to them shamelessly.

I anticipated that someone would say that the people who backed Clinton did not have a problem with his behavior, which is why I brought up the point about integrity. Lack of integrity is lack of integrity no matter what form it comes in. Cheating on your wife is no different than hypocrisy when it comes to integrity. That is my main point- I do not allow for a moral dichotomy.

Other than that, I don't disagree with what you are saying. That is what is so astounding about the people who are supporting him. Obviously he is a lying about his sense of morality, but they follow him regardless.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Probably about the same time you get a ban for your personal attack against him.

Personal attack? Where? He has shown proof he is the things I called him. That's stating facts. He continues to insists Iraq had WMD despite all evidence we have posted proves him wrong. His response? Calls me and others a coward. He questions Obama's birth certificate. That makes him a birther. He discriminates against Muslims. That makes him a bigot.

Now him continuing to call me a coward when I have shown proof he is lying, and his entire response is "coward coward coward". That is more in line with a personal attack, albeit a pathetic one.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

please explain to me how mentioning pelosi and barr is bigoted and hateful? im acutally more interested in the bigot part.

also your personal attack is vacation worthy

You missed the Wookie post of his? Michelle Obama = wookie?

 

[micrometers]

Three things:

1. The fact that Gingrich got so fucking angry might have played well in the South, but it's obviously an admission that what she said was true.

2. Castilla Gingrich's creepy appearance is reason alone to not back Newt

3. Ironically, Mitt Romney has had fewer wives than Newt. This is more evidence that much opposition to Romney is good old fashioned religious bigotry.

 

[pcgeek11]

Three things:

1. The fact that Gingrich got so fucking angry might have played well in the South, but it's obviously an admission that what she said was true.

2. Castilla Gingrich's creepy appearance is reason alone to not back Newt

3. Ironically, Mitt Romney has had fewer wives than Newt. This is more evidence that much opposition to Romney is good old fashioned religious bigotry.

1. Angry doesn't equal Admission. I would be just as angry if someone stated a lie about me. Wouldn't you?

2. I agree here as her helmet I mean hair is just wow!

3. This is pure fabrication. They look pretty even in the polls anyway. Most of the people I've talked to down here in SC do not care if he is a Mormon.

 

[UberNeuman]

1. Angry doesn't equal Admission. I would be just as angry if someone stated a lie about me. Wouldn't you?

Would it be a lie to say that Newt petitioned his "then" wife for divorce while she was being treated for cancer?

\how to annoy a knob - by asking the truth...

 

[sportage]

Poor Newt....
"How dare you ask that question in a debate".
Well N-E-W-T...
How dare u bring up private life issues, like same sex marriage, in a debate.
Or, single mothers trying to raise a child living on welfare?
Or that old woman trying to survive on social security.
Or, that Muslim American citizen just trying to make a living by working hard.
Or the children of the poor, and the environment they struggle in.

Poor Newt. Poor poor Newt. Poor Fu-King Newt...

 

[pcgeek11]

Would it be a lie to say that Newt petitioned his "then" wife for divorce while she was being treated for cancer?

\how to annoy a knob - by asking the truth...

I never stated that he didn't. I don't care that he did. So what? I don't think he did it because she had cancer. They probably ( like most divorces ) had a multitude of issues.

 

[zinfamous]

You must be under 20. I've been watching this guy my whole life and he frequently talks about pushing old fashioned christian values and every chance he gets he proves he's completely full of shit.

this.

some seem to think this issue is about who he is.

the issue is who he pretends to be, and who he pretends to do it to.

 

[zinfamous]

The people who backed Clinton aren't attacking Newt on the basis of his sexual proclivities, but rather on the basis of his hypocrisy.

Watch the Daily Show piece, above, to see where Newt represents himself to be vs where he's been in his personal life to understand that.

It'd be different if Newt had represented himself to be a free thinking Libertine all along, but then he would have gotten nowhere with the Repub base. The only reasons any of them can overlook all of that is that they're desperate for anybody but Romney and that Newt panders to them shamelessly.

The funny thing, is that Clinton never pretended to be anything else. If anyone remembers the 92 convention and all of that leading up to it, much of the schmoozy video time--broadcast at the convention--was about how he cheated on Hillary and how the family "overcame this transgression." Seriously, dude was a candidate of redemption.

Clinton was/is he best politician of this generation, and don't you doubt it: elected by liberals, and was the best conservative president since Eisenhower.

 

[zinfamous]

Poor Newt....


Poor Newt. Poor poor Newt. Poor Fu-King Newt...

I think he needs a spanking

 

[zinfamous]

If the cause is what matters, the flaws of those who serve that cause can be overlooked.

This isn't about FDR dying in the hands of his mistress--a relationship that never graced the hands of the media.

This is about a dude who has repeatedly run on a cause of "traditional conservative family values, etc," and done everything in his personal life to trample those values. And not just those values, but the values of normal human beings.

 

[trenchfoot]

If Gingrich was a Dem, he'd be hung in effigy and crucified by the Repubs, and the Religious Right would be getting righteously Old Testament on his butt. Yet, where IS the holier than thou Religious Right's show of indignation and admonishment of Gingrich's lack of morals, piety and marital fidelity? Oh yeah, I forgot that because he's a Repub he can be forgiven and hailed as a faithful Catholic, despite what that church's well known beliefs are in reference to divorces, and in Gingrich's case, multiple divorces.

He is what every religious conservative of the right would give almost anything for if only he were a Democrat.

Better a Poser Catholic than a Corporate raiding Mormon eh?

Sad. Pathetic.

 

[UberNeuman]

I never stated that he didn't. I don't care that he did. So what? I don't think he did it because she had cancer. They probably ( like most divorces ) had a multitude of issues.

Well, she had it coming - being a "wise and beautiful woman" with cancer - amiritght!?!


HIgh-Five!!

 

[pcgeek11]

Well, she had it coming - being a "wise and beautiful woman" with cancer - amiritght!?!


HIgh-Five!!

No, you are wrong as usual.

The wife that had cancer was his first wife Jackie Battley and was the mother of his two daughters. His daughters have disputed the claims of the hospital divorce confrontation.

The " wise and beautiful woman " would be the one giving the interview on TV Marianne Ginther. She is the one that had a neurological disorder.

" Marianne Gingrich, 48 ... says the ex-speaker of the House told her on Mother's Day 1999 that he wanted a divorce, after learning she had a neurological condition that could lead to MS [multiple sclerosis]."

 

[UberNeuman]

No, you are wrong as usual.

The wife that had cancer was his first wife Jackie Battley and was the mother of his two daughters. His daughters have disputed the claims of the hospital divorce confrontation.

The " wise and beautiful woman " would be the one giving the interview on TV Marianne Ginther. She is the one that had a neurological disorder.

" Marianne Gingrich, 48 ... says the ex-speaker of the House told her on Mother's Day 1999 that he wanted a divorce, after learning she had a neurological condition that could lead to MS [multiple sclerosis]."

Ah, yes, the first wife was his high school geometry teacher.... He a robust 19 and she a cunty 26,,,,

 

[dawp]

Yeah, I would.

Trotting out someone's ex-wife for tabloid trash is shameful. That crap should be confined to the National Enquirer and the like.

Fern

This is American Politics, anything is game. Even outright lies, something both sides do.

I would never vote for Newt and if he is the nominee, might as well hand the election to Obama as the only supporters Newt has are on the right.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

You missed the Wookie post of his? Michelle Obama = wookie?

I find it mildly amusing. I'm not sure why some of you are so pissy about it. Is it supposed to racist or something? How so?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Personal attack? Where? He has shown proof he is the things I called him. That's stating facts. He continues to insists Iraq had WMD despite all evidence we have posted proves him wrong. His response? Calls me and others a coward. He questions Obama's birth certificate. That makes him a birther. He discriminates against Muslims. That makes him a bigot.

Now him continuing to call me a coward when I have shown proof he is lying, and his entire response is "coward coward coward". That is more in line with a personal attack, albeit a pathetic one.

Go back and read what you posted, it's a personal attack according to forum rules.

When is this bigoted idiot troll going to get banned?

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Go back and read what you posted, it's a personal attack according to forum rules.

Let's see....Michelle Obama is a wookie - that isn't a personal attack on her? No comment from you.

Calls me a coward when I prove him wrong with the official UN report stating no WMD (he still thinks Iraq had WMD). I posted facts, he calls me a coward-that isn't a personal attack? No comment from you.

So he is an idiot....he refuses to admit Iraq didn't have WMD. No one other then him thinks this. His "defense" to show he is correct is to go cover his ears and call me a coward. But hey, I guess that is OK in your mind.

Bigot - As others have shown, google his posting history over at nvnews. There are some good quotes about how he wouldn't allow a "victory mosque" being built in NYC, remember when all the far-right went ballistic about the Muslim center opening in NYC? Well, cybrtroll doesn't believe in freedom of religion here, since he was against it....that makes him a bigot. Her eis one example, there are of course others. To quote cybrtroll himself:

Yep, and with such an easy solution to the problem, we see that the mosque builders are not after bridging the gap or healing wounds. All they need to do is move further away. But if they do that, it ceases to be a victory mosque.

Therein is the rub. If it is not a victory mosque, then the location does not matter and further away is just as good. But if they refuse to build it further away, then it is obvious they want it to be a victory mosque. Their original name (changed only after they were busted using it) spells it clearly, but their actions seal the deal.

So I think I am on firm ground calling him what he is, and haven't made up anything...do you disagree somehow?