Newt Gingrich will be the next President.. Giuliani as VP.

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ProfJohn

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On the plus side Newt is the ONLY candidate who can claim to have balanced the budget since he was speaker at the time.
And since he left before it went to hell he is not connected to the recent Republican congress. Being out of congress for 8+ years will help him I think.

 

fornax

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
Newt/Giuliani 2008.. woot!

/little bit of wishful thinking on my part..

If I were you, I'd seek professional help. Giuliani is OK - smart, industrious, not beholden to ideology (at least what little I know of him). But Newt? Are you insane?
 
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Originally posted by: brxndxn
I wanted to go ahead and make this prediction and get laughed at hysterically while everything is still early.

Newt, bad history and all, is going to come out swinging.. He'll think outside the party and say the harsh things that need to be said. He won't linger on buzz-word issues of gay-marraige, abortion, global warming, etc.. Instead, he'll get to the down and dirty and say things in a non political way. America will fall in love with his honesty.. something lacking in every other political candidate except for Giuliani in this race..

Hilary will fall flat on her face with something very Howard Dean-like early in the race. Obama's inexperience will be tested and he will have a tough time holding his own with the seasoned politicians.

Newt/Giuliani 2008.. woot!

/little bit of wishful thinking on my part..

Cue Car Talk's Tom Magliozzi laughter, infinitum.
 

judasmachine

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Originally posted by: CPA
People have short memories. Hell, I would bet a poll would show a majority of Americans wouldn't even know who Newt is. And if the Dems brought up his slightly dirty laundry, it could backfire on them. People are getting tired of the mudslinging.

I wish you were right about the bolded, but the masses are so easily swayed by mudslinging, or should we now call it swiftboating, no, that's outright lying.

 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
On the plus side Newt is the ONLY candidate who can claim to have balanced the budget since he was speaker at the time.
And since he left before it went to hell he is not connected to the recent Republican congress. Being out of congress for 8+ years will help him I think.

wasn't Hillary president during that same period of time? :p
 

Tom

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Newt is probably one of the best conservative voices in politics.
But he was so demonized by Democrats that he might have a hard time rising above that.

Then again if he goes up against a strong liberal it would result in a great election based on ideas.
Will be very interesting to see what happens with Newt, he says he won't run till the fall? He might be one of the few that can wait that long and still do it.
McCain, Giuliani, Newt and Romney, the big 4, after them everyone else doesn't really have a prayer.


Newt wasn't "demonized" by Democrats. His all out war style of politics worked pretty well in getting a Republican majority elected, but backfired on him during the shutdown the government debacle. So his downfall was self-inflicted.

My evaluation of him is, he's intelligent and creative on the one hand, he's narrow-minded, extremely partisan even though he tries not to be, and not a good listener on the other.

He's also grating and has no leadership ability, and has never demonstrated any ability to solve problems, unlike someone like Giuliani. He has some sense of humor, but it's derisive and mean-spirited, which appeals to the hateful wing of the Republican party, but not to anyone else. He would be a horrible president, and a horrible candidate.

 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Tom
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Newt is probably one of the best conservative voices in politics.
But he was so demonized by Democrats that he might have a hard time rising above that.

Then again if he goes up against a strong liberal it would result in a great election based on ideas.
Will be very interesting to see what happens with Newt, he says he won't run till the fall? He might be one of the few that can wait that long and still do it.
McCain, Giuliani, Newt and Romney, the big 4, after them everyone else doesn't really have a prayer.


Newt wasn't "demonized" by Democrats. His all out war style of politics worked pretty well in getting a Republican majority elected, but backfired on him during the shutdown the government debacle. So his downfall was self-inflicted.

My evaluation of him is, he's intelligent and creative on the one hand, he's narrow-minded, extremely partisan even though he tries not to be, and not a good listener on the other.

He's also grating and has no leadership ability, and has never demonstrated any ability to solve problems, unlike someone like Giuliani. He has some sense of humor, but it's derisive and mean-spirited, which appeals to the hateful wing of the Republican party, but not to anyone else. He would be a horrible president, and a horrible candidate.


How can you say Newt does not have any Leadership ability? Whether you liked it or not, he was the driving force of Contract with America.
 

daveymark

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Some people are just best ignored. Because they otherwise never shut up.---and also are incapable of shame.

thanks, I'll take that into consideration the next time I happen across one of your posts
 

daveymark

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Doonesbury has Newt pegged right---he is excellent as a bomb thrower---and someone to


Oh yeah, political analysis from the comics. Well at least we know the basis for your opinions now.

:laugh:
 

johnnobts

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Newts been a pretty mellow guy since he's been out of politics for the last several years. I loved his book, religion in america, learned some of the most amazing things about Washington, and especially Jefferson. Did you know Jefferson worshipped every Sunday in the Supreme Court room? they used to hold services there. Ironic that the courts would later be used to extract religion from the public square.
 
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I think I have exactly the same odds of being our next President as Newt does. He is a bright guy but insufferably arrogant, and so misread the public's sentiment during the Clinton impeachment that it was he, not Clinton, who bore the brunt of the blowback that resulted.

Moreover, he has the dubious distinction of having served his first wife with divorce papers while she was in a hospital bed recovering from cancer surgery, then attempting to cut off her life insurance (he supposedly told his young daughter at the time that Mommy wasn't young or pretty enough to be the President's wife), and divorced his second wife after admitting (during a telephone conversation when he told her he wanted a divorce) to a prolonged affair with a Congressional aide 23 years his junior. The OP's ticket would have two candidates with a total of three embarrassing, highly public divorces, presumably not endearing them to the religious right (though, as a neat parallel, our current President and Veep have three DUI convictions among them, and it hasn't slowed them down appreciably).
 

Genx87

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Newt == baggage.

However it would be interesting to see him and hillary run against each other. It could be one of the lowest voter turnouts in history as large portions of our population like neither and their baggage.

 

chowderhead

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Originally posted by: DonVito
I think I have exactly the same odds of being our next President as Newt does. He is a bright guy but insufferably arrogant, and so misread the public's sentiment during the Clinton impeachment that it was he, not Clinton, who bore the brunt of the blowback that resulted.

Moreover, he has the dubious distinction of having served his first wife with divorce papers while she was in a hospital bed recovering from cancer surgery, then attempting to cut off her life insurance (he supposedly told his young daughter at the time that Mommy wasn't young or pretty enough to be the President's wife), and divorced his second wife after admitting (during a telephone conversation when he told her he wanted a divorce) to a prolonged affair with a Congressional aide 23 years his junior. The OP's ticket would have two candidates with a total of three embarrassing, highly public divorces, presumably not endearing them to the religious right (though, as a neat parallel, our current President and Veep have three DUI convictions among them, and it hasn't slowed them down appreciably).

Giuliani also married his 2nd cousin and eventually got an annullment from that marriage because of that. I think what will sink Giuliani more than anything is the drip drip news stories of his business dealings after 9-11. Giuliani made a lot of money in many different kinds of businesses which have yet to be fully vetted.
 

Fern

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I think Nwt's a bright guy who comes up with many interesting ideas for solutions to problems. Prolly the most "think outside the box" person in politics ATM.

But I think he has no chance to get elected. I dunno but I see him having a lot of difficulty getting the women's vote.

Newt vs HRC. An interesting thought. The most hated Repub vs the most hated Dem. I would think that those two have the highest (and firmest) negative numbers of anybody. What a contentious election that would be!

But I don't see it happening. I don't see either making it past the primary.

I still say Edwards/Obama is the wining ticket, even though I won't vote for it.

Fern
 

GTaudiophile

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I don't think Newt could ever win but I would love to see him debate!

I don't really like him as a person but love his politics.
 

sierrita

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Doonesbury has Newt pegged right---he is excellent as a bomb thrower---and someone to


Oh yeah, political analysis from the comics. Well at least we know the basis for your opinions now.




Um, it's all ABOUT politics, fool.
 

johnnobts

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newt's solid, a great debater. anyone know why my reagan post was locked? was it a controversial news announcement or something? god forbid i mention r.r. at anandtech...
 

spittledip

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I don't see him winning. I would prefer to see him not even run.

Originally posted by: chowderhead
I think what will sink Giuliani more than anything is the drip drip news stories of his business dealings after 9-11. Giuliani made a lot of money in many different kinds of businesses which have yet to be fully vetted.
Disappointing. All these corrupt politicians making money off us suckers
 

johnnobts

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yep, barak and hillary and co. are as pure as the wind-driven snow. and incidentally, i'm so pleased to see how nancy p. and harry r. have really cleaned up washington in the last 2 months. and their bi-partisan attitude is so refreshing.